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RE: Built in 2500 LP or Portable Gas Generator?

We also have both generators, as mentioned above. If I had it to do again, I would buy a Yamaha 2400 instead of the Honda 2000i that I have. When I bought the Honda, our 2001 Lance had a 7K btu air conditioner. The Honda would run it on Eco mode. When I had to replace the AC, the smallest I could find was a 9K BTU. The Honda will run it but not on Eco so it is a bit noisier. However we don't use either enough to justify owning them. Last summer we made a trip to the mountain west and were gone all summer. During that three months we used the built in Onan one time to thaw some food in the microwave. Not only is the Onan noisy, but also vibrates the TC which I don't enjoy. If we are traveling here in the SE, we just plane on staying in a campground where we can plug in the rig. Once we get to the mountains of Colorado, the fantastic fan is all we need at night. I bought our current 2008 Lance used and that is the only reason I have the built in Onan. Also own a couple of larger stand by house generators. The Honda and Yamaha inverter models are much more pleasant to have to listen to and not feel them vibrating, when out camping. Funny how electronics work. I have the Honda 2000i paired with the 9200 Polar Cub. I run the A/C,TV/receiver/satellite and PD Converter on econo mode with no problems. Go figure.
big whitey 08/13/14 05:31pm Truck Campers
RE: Built in 2500 LP or Portable Gas Generator?

I can get through 4-5 days of AC on that. Buzzcut, are you saying you can run your AC with the Honda? Bedlam, we don't have a huge need for a generator but we do have some basic uses. Coffee in the morning, my wife's hair dryer, toaster, etc. We live in northern Michigan, so have not had a big need for AC, we will be spending part of the winter in Arizona this coming year but even then, I don't think the AC will be a big need. But I would miss the convenience of just hitting a start button in the morning to start my coffee. And when on the road and doing Walmart or Rest stop, overnight camping, I would not be too excited about having to go outside to pull a generator out for just a little power. So, how does one remove a generator from a TC? Thanks yes my Honda 2000i companion runs my polar cub 2000 AC just fine, even at 8000 feet
Buzzcut1 08/13/14 06:03am Truck Campers
RE: Report: Coleman Polar Cub AC AND truck camper

I agree, the Polar Cub's been working well in my AF for 9 yrs. now, but even it's low profile puts me at 11'9" Works well with the Honda 2K generator as well. I agree and the big reason I got one of them is WORKS great with Honda 2K generator that was a must for me.
abslayer 07/24/14 10:34am Truck Campers
RE: Report: Coleman Polar Cub AC AND truck camper

When plugged into shore power (20 amp, 12 ga cord), I can run my Polar Cub (9200 btu) and microwave at the same time. I frequently run my A/C and fridge on the 20 amp shore power. I cannot run the A/C and Microwave at the same time on the Honda. Wayne
Reddog1 07/23/14 08:33pm Truck Campers
RE: Report: Coleman Polar Cub AC AND truck camper

I agree, the Polar Cub's been working well in my AF for 9 yrs. now, but even it's low profile puts me at 11'9" Works well with the Honda 2K generator as well.
RamTC 07/23/14 05:46pm Truck Campers
RE: New 8k BTU Coleman Polar Cub

Okay I have figured out the problem, my model # is 47203A876 which is the 13k BTU Unit. I specifically ordered the 9k BTU unit which is the 47201A876. The crazy thing is my Honda eu2000 generator starts up the unit and runs it and works great when plugged into a regular Outlet in my garage. I guess it could be causing damage everytime I turn it on, even when plugged into an extension chord. I am pretty bummed right now. Any suggestions on what to do are appreciated. Could Just get a hard start capacitor and be okay? Here are some pics of the differences My previous 9k btu coleman polar cub on my 2004 eagle cap 800 lite http://i.imgur.com/v4frciml.jpg The new coleman mach 8 http://i.imgur.com/Nv1iUdLl.jpg Shroud removed http://i.imgur.com/pE06UKFl.jpg My model # http://i.imgur.com/skmzThdl.jpg Nolan
anutami 06/30/14 01:58pm Truck Campers
RE: Honda EU2000 or Companion?

Buy a Coleman Polar Cub AC and your Honda EU2000 will run it just fine. If you are one of those lucky guys who owns a camper with 3 rooms and a wine cellar, you may find that the Polar Cub does not meet your needs, but for the rest of us, it works pretty well. PS - has anybody tried the anti-theft adapter that Honda is marketing. Kind of a metal overplate for the plastic handle of the generator to keep creeps from cutting the handle to steal a generator locked by a cable? Camping World has them and they look pretty slick. Happy Camping! The anti-theft handle brackets are a must have. However, if I were to recommend a true anti-theft solution, I'd recommend the LowPro LockDown bracket. One part is held on by the screws that hold the generator's feet, the other part bolts to a secure surface, and a hockey puck lock ensures the two stay together. I like this since it can't just be cut with bolt cutters.
mlts22 06/27/14 01:49pm Truck Campers
RE: Honda EU2000 or Companion?

Buy a Coleman Polar Cub AC and your Honda EU2000 will run it just fine. If you are one of those lucky guys who owns a camper with 3 rooms and a wine cellar, you may find that the Polar Cub does not meet your needs, but for the rest of us, it works pretty well. PS - has anybody tried the anti-theft adapter that Honda is marketing. Kind of a metal overplate for the plastic handle of the generator to keep creeps from cutting the handle to steal a generator locked by a cable? Camping World has them and they look pretty slick. Happy Camping!
gregdennis53 06/27/14 01:39pm Truck Campers
RE: Honda EU2000 or Companion?

It's an unusual day when a 2000W genset, especially an inverter type, can rev up quickly enough to start an A/C compressor of the size typical to an RV. I have a Honda 2000i and I can power my A/C with it and it revs up just fine. I have a voltmeter in the camper that I use and I watched it when I was trying out my A/C. The voltage would drop to about 107 to 110V and then jumped right back to 115V. I am starting 11,000BTU unit with it. I also have a Yamaha 3000i SEB with remote start that I plan on carrying on my cargo trailer for the TC. It would be nice if people that say the Honda won't start the A/C would state what size air they are trying to start. One poster that stated that is wouldn't start an A/C and I looked at his profile and he has a MH which I'm sure is a 13500 BTU. This is the TC thread and most of the TCers have either a polar cub (8200 to 9200 BTU ) A/C or a 11,000 BTU. There are some TCers that have the 13,000 units but not many. To the OP I would get the standard Honda. No need to get the Companion when you don't plan on getting another unit. If you ever do decide to get another one to parallel you can build your own setup with the RV 30amp plug. I did that a number of years back and then decided I didn't need to run 2 so I sold the second one.
Butch50 06/26/14 08:20am Truck Campers
RE: Portable generators...What brAND?

I had a Penguin 11000 on my 97`lance legend 500 , Honda 2000 a my house @ 2800 ft elv would not run it , would start it sometimes , but after head pressure built up in the compressor the Honda breaker would pop, that was with no convertor or anything else running Tried a supco spp6e, helped a little , but still would not run The penguin is 13.7 amps total if I remember, I sold it for 350.00 The new mach 8 cub is 11.7 total The polar cub with R-410a Freon was 11.5 total The old good polar cub "D" series was 8.9 total You need a bigger gen , to run your AC I changed my AC to a new colman mach 1 power saver Its 9.5 total, it runs well in eco mode at elevation and with the converter on , its as low an amp one made now, but its not low profile Thanks okan-star. Good to hear someone who has the same AC. also Thanks for all other members input.
billyray50 06/24/14 01:28pm Truck Campers
RE: Portable generators...What brAND?

I had a Penguin 11000 on my 97`lance legend 500 , Honda 2000 a my house @ 2800 ft elv would not run it , would start it sometimes , but after head pressure built up in the compressor the Honda breaker would pop, that was with no convertor or anything else running Tried a supco spp6e, helped a little , but still would not run The penguin is 13.7 amps total if I remember, I sold it for 350.00 The new mach 8 cub is 11.7 total The polar cub with R-410a Freon was 11.5 total The old good polar cub "D" series was 8.9 total You need a bigger gen , to run your AC I changed my AC to a new colman mach 1 power saver Its 9.5 total, it runs well in eco mode at elevation and with the converter on , its as low an amp one made now, but its not low profile
okan-star 06/24/14 12:49pm Truck Campers
RE: Portable generators...What brAND?

I found this online. I have the exact Dometic model AC. There is also a big difference between ACs. For example, at one time the lowest current roof top AC was the Coleman Polar Cub 9200 BTU unit. Now, Dometic makes a 11,000 BTU model that has a lower start & run current: From the Manufacturer's websites: Polar Cub 9200: Locked rotor (starting amps) 58.4 Running amps cooling - 11.5 Running Heating amps - 13.75 Dometic Penguin 11000 Model 600312.321: Locked Rotor (Starting amps) 53 Running amps cooling 9.5 Running Heating amps - 12.7 Also the FLA is 8.8 and LRA fan motor is 3.1 That's what is confusing. I see posts online that rv owners run their 13,500 btu with a Honda 2000 specifically one lance owner with no hardstart capacitor?? He stated he starts with eco mode off and runs AC on cold setting so it does not cycle much and has had no problems? Hoping that size would work since my AC unit runs on low, medium, and high now plugged into regular garage outlet with 30/15 adapter and 15 amp extension chord. Had a 13,500 btu AC on another TC that would NOT run off garage outlet and same chord combo.
billyray50 06/24/14 11:47am Truck Campers
RE: The Official unofficial CPE 2000i Generator Thread

Thought maybe I'd post my recent experience trying to run my truck camper a/c unit with my Champion 2000. I live at ~3500ft elevation. I have the following A/C unit installed on my camper: Coleman Mach 8 Polar Cub (47201A876) - 9200btu, 11.7 amp on high, 11.2 on low - low profile I couldn't find one of the lower draw units so I was hopeful that my little Champion 2000 Inverter generator would run it. No luck, it's not even close really, it goes into overload immediately. I then purchased a 2000w Honda, it can run this a/c unit easily and starts it in eco mode. I guess I shouldn't be too surprised, I've read most of this thread and it seems that my experience would be expected. I have nothing bad to say about the Champion, it served me well for 3 years and I would still be using it if it would have ran the a/c. I've been able to run an 11,000 BTU unit fine with ECO mode off. It seems more efficient than your unit though.
mfifield01 06/18/14 03:54pm Tech Issues
RE: The Official unofficial CPE 2000i Generator Thread

Thought maybe I'd post my recent experience trying to run my truck camper a/c unit with my Champion 2000. I live at ~3500ft elevation. I have the following A/C unit installed on my camper: Coleman Mach 8 Polar Cub (47201A876) - 9200btu, 11.7 amp on high, 11.2 on low - low profile I couldn't find one of the lower draw units so I was hopeful that my little Champion 2000 Inverter generator would run it. No luck, it's not even close really, it goes into overload immediately. I then purchased a 2000w Honda, it can run this a/c unit easily and starts it in eco mode. I guess I shouldn't be too surprised, I've read most of this thread and it seems that my experience would be expected. I have nothing bad to say about the Champion, it served me well for 3 years and I would still be using it if it would have ran the a/c.
hedge 06/18/14 03:46pm Tech Issues
RE: Smarter Tools AP-2000iq 2000w generator at Costco

There was just a thread on the truck camper forum about Champion inverter 2k gens not running a Polar Cub air conditioner but the Honda 2k would.... Point is these clones don't always do what the real deals do! Example off the Keystone RV forum: I recently bought 2 Smarter Tools AP-2000iQ Digital Inverter Generators so that we could parallel them when dry camping this summer. After taking one of them out, we discovered that it was reaching an overload condition just powering our 900 watt microwave.
jaycocreek 06/11/14 10:17am Travel Trailers
RE: Generator won't run my Coleman Mach 8 Polar Cub

We have the Honda 2000 and last summer we camped in southern Utah around 4000 foot elevation and 112 degree temps. No issues what so ever. We have the polar cub too. Mike
Bubtoofat 06/02/14 06:05pm Truck Campers
Generator won't run my Coleman Mach 8 Polar Cub

I have the following A/C unit installed on my camper Coleman Mach 8 Polar Cub (47201A876) - 9200btu, 11.7 amp on high, 11.2 on low - low profile I couldn't find one of the lower draw units so I was hopeful that my little Champion 2000 Inverter generator would run it. No luck, it's not even close really, it goes into overload immediately. I'm exploring my options now. I carry the generator on a hitch rack on the back that fits under the camper but I don't have much room to fit a larger generator unless I put the camper on a spacer which I don't want to do. 1. Does anyone know if a Hard start capacitor is factory installed in this A/C unit? 2. I think the Honda 2000 will handle a larger startup draw than the Champion, is anyone able to run this mode of A/C with the Honda. 3. I am considering moving up to the 3100 generator, it's about 2" taller but maybe I can take the wheels off ot make it lower.
hedge 06/02/14 02:54pm Truck Campers
INSAYN's 2013 Summer road trip.

Hey buddies! Had a blast cruising the highways of America last summer with the family in tow. Two adults, two teens, 3 small dogs crammed into our crewcab for 7.5 weeks, covered 20 states and 7500+ miles. Thank GOD I installed the smaller Polar Cub AC unit in favor of the 13.5K Dometic that was up there. My lil Honda 2000 ran it like a champ! My parents followed us in their brand new Honda Pilot towing their Aliner popup trailer, of which I installed a portable upright AC unit from Homer Depot. The goals of the trip I set for me was to make it the entire trip: 1. No break downs. (Check, kind of) 2. Find something from the Civil War with my metal detector. (Check) 3. Catch a big fish in the Gulf of Mexico from my kayak. (Check) No break downs on my rig, just a bad wheel bearing on my parents trailer, which I fixed in a hot Georgia supermarket parking lot. Found a spent mini ball in the back woods behind a carpet manufacturing plant a few miles from a major Georgia battlefield. Caught a 43" / 36.5# Bull Redfish under the bridge going to Grand Isle Louisiana via kayak. HOLY******that was fun! The skinny on it, is that I ran out of bait (chunk mullet) to use on my big stick. Put that down and tossed my homemade lure tipped with what I had left of the mullet over, tied to my UglyStik Lite bait rod, running 10# mono. I was attempting to catch more bait. Second drop down, and the Bull hit like a freight train! Over the course of a half hour fight, it nearly spooled me 3 times and towed me in a huge circle around the bridge legs and out into the bay. Got it to the boat 3 times, and only the 3rd time it was finally tired enough to lip grip it, and bonk it. What a rush!!! Now, with that...I need your help guys! I posted a picture of my Bull Redfish on Paddling.net to try and win another kayak for my kiddo to use. If you will please click the link and hit the green "Like" it button. Try from home, and from your Smartphone using the cell not the WiFi. Check back daily and "Like" again! It goes till July 31st. http://www.paddling.net/fishing/photoDetails.html?pid=113 http://www.paddling.net/fishing/entries/?pfid=113&width=400&height=300
INSAYN 05/22/14 11:23pm Truck Campers
RE: Outfitter's New Molded Fiberglass Body for the Apex 8 Camper

Sorry everyone, no pictures were allowed. If existing owners get a free upgrade, I'm at the head of the line... Brian told me that he hopes the new camper will be lighter, but it won't be by much if it is. I really have to agree that Outfitters are extremely well designed. I'm the first to admit that I am somewhat biased, but I get to experience the great design features every time we use our Outfitter Apex 8. Some of these great features include: >Low profile = low wind resistance, great off-road capability. >Basement design = heavy components like water tanks, batteries etc are down low, which when combined with the low profile give a low vertical center of gravity. >North South bed. >A huge amount of storage built into a structure about 15 ft long (with cab over) by 7 ft wide by 6 ft high (top down) including: a dedicated outside storage box for a Honda 2000 genny and gas can, "16 gal" misc storage compartment under the cassette toilet in place of the black tank, 9" deep storage locker and drawer under the entire queen size bed, plus the usual floor, over head cabinets (2), bed side cabinets and storage under both dinette seats. In fact there may be more storage than many similar sized hard side campers. >50 gal of water carrying capacity (44 gal fresh tank and 6 gal HWH) and 16 gal grey tank. >Room for up to four batteries. >Easy up remote control electric lift roof with 81 inches head room with the top up. >Granite look molded counter top with molded double sink and molded granite look table. >four season capability. (we have camped as low as 15 degrees and been very comfortable.) >Insulated Weblon soft wall with loads of windows (with screens and insulated covers) for a very light, open, airy camper interior, but still as stable as a hard side in high winds (we have experienced >40 mph), rain, and snow. >375W solar. >And the usual stuff: 20K BTU DSI furnace, 6 gal DSI HWH, Progressive Dynamics converter with smart charger, VSR battery isolator, Polar Cub AC, 7.5 CF Nova Kool 12V compressor fridge, 30 lbs propane, inverter, TV/DVD, microwave, stove, Wave 6 cat heater, wet bath with cassette toilet, LED lights, stereo, system monitors, roof top ladder & rack, electric jacks, AT 5 gal jerry can holders on the back of the camper for additional fuel for long off road trips, etc. SORRY, I guess I sort of got carried away... I guess you could say an Outfitter is really just like a hard side camper, but the roof goes up and down giving a much more compact rig. ADDITIONAL NEW FEATURES: I forgot to also mention in my post that the new Apex will now feature dinette seats with a downward rake on the bottom cushion and a backward rake on the seat back cushion. This should make sitting there more comfortable than the current design. This feature will still enable the dinette to be converted to a single bed, as before. Also, in designing for the raked dinette cushions, the dinette bases had to be made slightly longer (at the expense of a little knee room, but there was extra before), which now leaves enough room under the rear dinette base to fit four batteries (!), instead of the current two battery fitment. In addition to the molded fiberglass body, I really wish I had these features on my camper. Terry
terryrey 05/06/14 04:33pm Truck Campers
RE: Low Profile AC unit

I have a 9200 Polar Cub on my 11.5 foot Bigfoot TC. So far, it has done a great job. I can't see you having any cooling issues with the Coleman Mach 8 cub. I can't see any problem with the voltage. My bet is that you are plugged in to 120-volts. For your information, the voltage can fluctuate for many reasons. I have ran my Polar Cub on voltage as low as 109. My bet is the smaller A/C will be more efficient than your big one. It will not cycle as often, and do better at removing the moisture from the air. Bigger is not necessarily better with A/Cs. I am not in the A/C profession, but have a pretty good grip on the basics. I selected and installed my Polar Cub in 2005 and usually run it on my Honda 2000 generator when camping. I have ran it in campgrounds with varying voltages. Wayne
Reddog1 04/27/14 09:56am Truck Campers
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