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RE: Smallest AC that a Honda 2000 will Run?

Recently was out for 3 days and had not a single problem running the Honda. I have the 11,000 BTU Coleman PowerSaver (PS) model and can report that at least at sub 1000 ft elev. down to sea-level, the Honda 2000 runs it without issue. The A/C pulls exactly 1050 watts on the low/cool setting which is more than cold enough for us even at 90-95 degrees outside temp. There's plenty of wattage left to also run the fridge (about 200 watts on highest setting), lights, TV and converter without sending the Honda into surge mode. In fact, it ran consistently at probably half throttle during the heat of the day-- when we wanted to get out of the sun. Of course, I did study the specs. of everything and made a weekend-long test at the house before we set out camping anywhere. The Honda gives a continuous output of about 1600 watts with a 10 min. surge of 2000 watts according to manual. Reading a lot of stories where people bought the newer version of the Polar Cub and have not been able to run it on a Honda 2000. The PowerSaver model seems to have been developed specifically for campers who want to use a 2000 watt gen. with a little power left over. Sure, it's taller, but you get the benefit of the larger compressor and therefore less wear and tear. I initially thought I had a 13,500 unit. Upon further inspection (only after removing the control panel) to determine how much work it would be to replace with another unit, and seeing the model number, did I discover it was this PS model. I was ready to replace it with a with a Coleman 8 or 9. Glad I didn't. I'm totally happy with it. Thank you for that info. Answered all my questions.
Snowy Bird 10/17/14 06:32pm Truck Campers
RE: Smallest AC that a Honda 2000 will Run?

Recently was out for 3 days and had not a single problem running the Honda. I have the 11,000 BTU Coleman PowerSaver (PS) model and can report that at least at sub 1000 ft elev. down to sea-level, the Honda 2000 runs it without issue. The A/C pulls exactly 1050 watts on the low/cool setting which is more than cold enough for us even at 90-95 degrees outside temp. There's plenty of wattage left to also run the fridge (about 200 watts on highest setting), lights, TV and converter without sending the Honda into surge mode. In fact, it ran consistently at probably half throttle during the heat of the day-- when we wanted to get out of the sun. Of course, I did study the specs. of everything and made a weekend-long test at the house before we set out camping anywhere. The Honda gives a continuous output of about 1600 watts with a 10 min. surge of 2000 watts according to manual. Reading a lot of stories where people bought the newer version of the Polar Cub and have not been able to run it on a Honda 2000. The PowerSaver model seems to have been developed specifically for campers who want to use a 2000 watt gen. with a little power left over. Sure, it's taller, but you get the benefit of the larger compressor and therefore less wear and tear. I initially thought I had a 13,500 unit. Upon further inspection (only after removing the control panel) to determine how much work it would be to replace with another unit, and seeing the model number, did I discover it was this PS model. I was ready to replace it with a with a Coleman 8 or 9. Glad I didn't. I'm totally happy with it.
joeshmoe 10/17/14 05:18pm Truck Campers
RE: Smallest AC that a Honda 2000 will Run?

The Polar Cub 9200 is a great little unit. We have run ours on a Honda EU2000i generator and on a 10amp electrical outlet here at the house. We only use ours at home when loading up the camper during the summer since we prefer camping in the mountains where it's a lot cooler.
Mello Mike 10/17/14 10:45am Truck Campers
RE: Smallest AC that a Honda 2000 will Run?

I have the following A/C unit installed on my camper Coleman Mach 8 Polar Cub (47201A876) - 9200btu, 11.7 amp on high, 11.2 on low - low profile I've ran it quite a few times with the Honda at ~3500 ft. I did have an issue one time where I couldn't get it to run until I shut off the breaker to the converter. I could not run it with my Champion 2000w generator.
hedge 10/15/14 08:52pm Truck Campers
RE: Smallest AC that a Honda 2000 will Run?

I just bought and installed a coleman polar cub 9200 and it works with the honda 2000. Our elevation is 2,960 feet. Used it this summer while plugged in and kept the camper nice and cool with outside temps well into the 90's. Well worth the money. Only difficulty was figuring how to get it on the roof, two healthy young men, no problem.
d_smith84 10/15/14 08:32pm Truck Campers
RE: Smallest AC that a Honda 2000 will Run?

We just installed one on our 1990 hard side Shadow Cruiser in June. The Honda 2000 runs it fine here in Oklahoma. The humidity doesn't seem do make any difference except in the run off water from condensation. We knew going in the AC and microwave wouldn't run safely at the same time. No biggie. What did become an issue was that the outlet provided for the microwave was wired in with the service to the AC for some strange reason, and not at the breaker, in the wall somewhere. It's an old 45 amp converter set up. We simply moved the microwave over to the cabinet closer to the bed and plug it into the receptacle there that is on a separate breaker so that when on shore power we can run them both. Our older Polar Cub on the horse trailer ran fine, the same as the new one, on a Honda 2000 genny as well. The new ones are supposed to be even more energy efficient so I don't see a problem. However that seems to be the comfort limit for the generator as the A frame hard side camper we had for a time had a 10,500 btu AC/heat pump combo and the Honda didn't like it very much. Anyone needing a really cheap 9200, new PM me.
trailgranny50 10/15/14 07:26pm Truck Campers
RE: Smallest AC that a Honda 2000 will Run?

We have a Polar Cub 9.2 that was installed by the dealer. The reasoning was that it can run off a Honda 2000 and it has a lower profile than the A/C unit offered by the manufacturer. We took delivery of the TC 11 months ago, so I assume it's a newer unit. Our Honda EU2000 Companion runs the A/C, but if we want to use the microwave, we temporarily shut down the A/C. Our experience with the Honda 2000 and PC was relatively near sea-level, somewhere between 500' and 1000', boondocking on the Shenandoah River in July. Nice and humid. We spent a week in The Keys this past August, connected to shore power, and the PC 9.2 performed wonderfully. Staying in Daytona for a couple days, the temp. was 100 degrees with a "humiture" of 120 degrees. We were driveway camping at my sister's and there was zero shade. The PC 9.2 kept us very comfortable. Full disclosure, I've added some upholstery foam for insulation in the bath skylight and a few windows that didn't have storm windows (escape window in the cab-over, pass-through window below the cab-over and rear door window).
Carb Cleaner 10/15/14 06:43pm Truck Campers
Smallest AC that a Honda 2000 will Run?

Just sniffing around for AC units to eventually install on our NL which we will be getting in Feb. I purposely did not order one, factory installed as I have heard (from more than one source), that manufacturers buy AC's by the truck load and of course, from whomever gives then the best price. I don't think the manufacturers really give too much consideration as to whether a Honda 2000 will run their chosen AC. I figured we would get a Polar Cub 9200, but now I'm reading that the newer ones are using more power than the older ones?. Does anyone out there have a less than 2 yr old PC 9200 that they have run off of their Honda 2000 with no problems? Or anyone know of a small brand new model that will work?
Snowy Bird 10/15/14 04:50pm Truck Campers
RE: Roadtrek 190 a/c replacement

On my other post where I said to double the BTU's, that's to get the starting watts you will need. So with an 8,000BTU AC you will need roughly 1,600 watts of power for start up. On average, typical single-phase soft-start capacitors reduce startup surge by 20-40 %. Some Marine Dometics have a built in soft start, that reduces start up surge by 60%. I think the Coleman Polar Cub A/C has soft start capacitor kits from the factory. Some people have reported that their able to start, and run a 13,500 BTU with soft start, with a Honda 2000, but I really think this depends on the brand/type of A/C, and altitude.
Arizona Kid 09/29/14 11:22pm Class B - Camping Van Conversions
RE: Air Conditioner Installation DIY?

I installed one myself,a replacement so no big deal. The camper we have now is old and came without one, however it was wired to the center vent, had a 12V fan in it. Had mobil camper guy come remove vent and install that one. That was after the first one came with a damaged drip pan and a few bent vent fins. Dealer said to trash it and sent me a replacement. Other one still in my shed as I couldn't bring myself to trash one that could be fixed and is brand new otherwise. Anyway they are the Coleman 9200 low profile, Polar Cub, Mach 8 whatever. Honda 2000 runs it fine, but not a microwave at the same time. Just be sure that the factory wiring isn't spliced in the wall with the cabinet receptacle for microwave or you'll blow breaker same as you would overload the Honda. One on one off same as with the genny. Ours is like that we discovered when adding individual breakers to converter to separate them. There are two receptacles up front that are wired on a 15 amp breaker, fridge on that one. May be able to get away with using one of those outlets for the micro then the separation would be there. Not up for major wiring overhaul and expenses for what is really a minor inconvenience for us.
trailgranny50 09/24/14 11:31am Truck Campers
RE: Built in 2500 LP or Portable Gas Generator?

We also have both generators, as mentioned above. If I had it to do again, I would buy a Yamaha 2400 instead of the Honda 2000i that I have. When I bought the Honda, our 2001 Lance had a 7K btu air conditioner. The Honda would run it on Eco mode. When I had to replace the AC, the smallest I could find was a 9K BTU. The Honda will run it but not on Eco so it is a bit noisier. However we don't use either enough to justify owning them. Last summer we made a trip to the mountain west and were gone all summer. During that three months we used the built in Onan one time to thaw some food in the microwave. Not only is the Onan noisy, but also vibrates the TC which I don't enjoy. If we are traveling here in the SE, we just plane on staying in a campground where we can plug in the rig. Once we get to the mountains of Colorado, the fantastic fan is all we need at night. I bought our current 2008 Lance used and that is the only reason I have the built in Onan. Also own a couple of larger stand by house generators. The Honda and Yamaha inverter models are much more pleasant to have to listen to and not feel them vibrating, when out camping. Funny how electronics work. I have the Honda 2000i paired with the 9200 Polar Cub. I run the A/C,TV/receiver/satellite and PD Converter on econo mode with no problems. Go figure.
big whitey 08/13/14 05:31pm Truck Campers
RE: Built in 2500 LP or Portable Gas Generator?

I can get through 4-5 days of AC on that. Buzzcut, are you saying you can run your AC with the Honda? Bedlam, we don't have a huge need for a generator but we do have some basic uses. Coffee in the morning, my wife's hair dryer, toaster, etc. We live in northern Michigan, so have not had a big need for AC, we will be spending part of the winter in Arizona this coming year but even then, I don't think the AC will be a big need. But I would miss the convenience of just hitting a start button in the morning to start my coffee. And when on the road and doing Walmart or Rest stop, overnight camping, I would not be too excited about having to go outside to pull a generator out for just a little power. So, how does one remove a generator from a TC? Thanks yes my Honda 2000i companion runs my polar cub 2000 AC just fine, even at 8000 feet
Buzzcut1 08/13/14 06:03am Truck Campers
RE: Report: Coleman Polar Cub AC AND truck camper

I agree, the Polar Cub's been working well in my AF for 9 yrs. now, but even it's low profile puts me at 11'9" Works well with the Honda 2K generator as well. I agree and the big reason I got one of them is WORKS great with Honda 2K generator that was a must for me.
abslayer 07/24/14 10:34am Truck Campers
RE: Report: Coleman Polar Cub AC AND truck camper

When plugged into shore power (20 amp, 12 ga cord), I can run my Polar Cub (9200 btu) and microwave at the same time. I frequently run my A/C and fridge on the 20 amp shore power. I cannot run the A/C and Microwave at the same time on the Honda. Wayne
Reddog1 07/23/14 08:33pm Truck Campers
RE: Report: Coleman Polar Cub AC AND truck camper

I agree, the Polar Cub's been working well in my AF for 9 yrs. now, but even it's low profile puts me at 11'9" Works well with the Honda 2K generator as well.
RamTC 07/23/14 05:46pm Truck Campers
RE: New 8k BTU Coleman Polar Cub

Okay I have figured out the problem, my model # is 47203A876 which is the 13k BTU Unit. I specifically ordered the 9k BTU unit which is the 47201A876. The crazy thing is my Honda eu2000 generator starts up the unit and runs it and works great when plugged into a regular Outlet in my garage. I guess it could be causing damage everytime I turn it on, even when plugged into an extension chord. I am pretty bummed right now. Any suggestions on what to do are appreciated. Could Just get a hard start capacitor and be okay? Here are some pics of the differences My previous 9k btu coleman polar cub on my 2004 eagle cap 800 lite http://i.imgur.com/v4frciml.jpg The new coleman mach 8 http://i.imgur.com/Nv1iUdLl.jpg Shroud removed http://i.imgur.com/pE06UKFl.jpg My model # http://i.imgur.com/skmzThdl.jpg Nolan
anutami 06/30/14 01:58pm Truck Campers
RE: Honda EU2000 or Companion?

Buy a Coleman Polar Cub AC and your Honda EU2000 will run it just fine. If you are one of those lucky guys who owns a camper with 3 rooms and a wine cellar, you may find that the Polar Cub does not meet your needs, but for the rest of us, it works pretty well. PS - has anybody tried the anti-theft adapter that Honda is marketing. Kind of a metal overplate for the plastic handle of the generator to keep creeps from cutting the handle to steal a generator locked by a cable? Camping World has them and they look pretty slick. Happy Camping! The anti-theft handle brackets are a must have. However, if I were to recommend a true anti-theft solution, I'd recommend the LowPro LockDown bracket. One part is held on by the screws that hold the generator's feet, the other part bolts to a secure surface, and a hockey puck lock ensures the two stay together. I like this since it can't just be cut with bolt cutters.
mlts22 06/27/14 01:49pm Truck Campers
RE: Honda EU2000 or Companion?

Buy a Coleman Polar Cub AC and your Honda EU2000 will run it just fine. If you are one of those lucky guys who owns a camper with 3 rooms and a wine cellar, you may find that the Polar Cub does not meet your needs, but for the rest of us, it works pretty well. PS - has anybody tried the anti-theft adapter that Honda is marketing. Kind of a metal overplate for the plastic handle of the generator to keep creeps from cutting the handle to steal a generator locked by a cable? Camping World has them and they look pretty slick. Happy Camping!
gregdennis53 06/27/14 01:39pm Truck Campers
RE: Honda EU2000 or Companion?

It's an unusual day when a 2000W genset, especially an inverter type, can rev up quickly enough to start an A/C compressor of the size typical to an RV. I have a Honda 2000i and I can power my A/C with it and it revs up just fine. I have a voltmeter in the camper that I use and I watched it when I was trying out my A/C. The voltage would drop to about 107 to 110V and then jumped right back to 115V. I am starting 11,000BTU unit with it. I also have a Yamaha 3000i SEB with remote start that I plan on carrying on my cargo trailer for the TC. It would be nice if people that say the Honda won't start the A/C would state what size air they are trying to start. One poster that stated that is wouldn't start an A/C and I looked at his profile and he has a MH which I'm sure is a 13500 BTU. This is the TC thread and most of the TCers have either a polar cub (8200 to 9200 BTU ) A/C or a 11,000 BTU. There are some TCers that have the 13,000 units but not many. To the OP I would get the standard Honda. No need to get the Companion when you don't plan on getting another unit. If you ever do decide to get another one to parallel you can build your own setup with the RV 30amp plug. I did that a number of years back and then decided I didn't need to run 2 so I sold the second one.
Butch50 06/26/14 08:20am Truck Campers
RE: Portable generators...What brAND?

I had a Penguin 11000 on my 97`lance legend 500 , Honda 2000 a my house @ 2800 ft elv would not run it , would start it sometimes , but after head pressure built up in the compressor the Honda breaker would pop, that was with no convertor or anything else running Tried a supco spp6e, helped a little , but still would not run The penguin is 13.7 amps total if I remember, I sold it for 350.00 The new mach 8 cub is 11.7 total The polar cub with R-410a Freon was 11.5 total The old good polar cub "D" series was 8.9 total You need a bigger gen , to run your AC I changed my AC to a new colman mach 1 power saver Its 9.5 total, it runs well in eco mode at elevation and with the converter on , its as low an amp one made now, but its not low profile Thanks okan-star. Good to hear someone who has the same AC. also Thanks for all other members input.
billyray50 06/24/14 01:28pm Truck Campers
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