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RE: Considering a used Lance, questions...

I installed my Polar Cub (9200 btu) A/C in 2005. Not at all difficult, and took me just over two hours as I recall. The hardest part was getting the A/C on the roof. Mine weighed just under 100 pounds, and I used a tractor with a front bucket. If as you posted, it the junction box in the ceiling with the label about 120 VAC, My bet is it has the circuit breaker as well. Is there a vent near the center of the roof from the junction box? If so, remove the vent and set the A/C on the hole. The A/Cs use the same size opening. If it does not have a vent, it is probably framed for it. Mine was framed, but I had to cut it out. In my opinion, the biggest concern is getting the proper size A/C. A 9000 to 1200 btu unit is more than big enough. An A/C this size typically will run with a Honda 2000 or equal. A larger unit will cycle more often, and from what I understand will be less efficient in removing the moister in the air. I will not say much more on the size of the A/Cs other than to my knowledge there are no advantages with an A/C larger than the 9000 to 1200 btu, but there are disadvantages. Wayne
Reddog1 02/13/16 10:17am Truck Campers
RE: What would You Order?

Keep the Microwave and delete the Gen set. Add the Polar Cub 8.5K btu air conditioner. Pick up a Honda 2k for boondocking. That is what I am planning. Scott
Scott16 11/15/15 11:30pm Truck Campers
RE: What would You Order?

Skip the built in gen and just buy a Honda 2K for less then $1k. If possible get the Polar Cub 8.5K btu air conditioner. It will cycle less then a 13.5K and draw less power. Even out here in the desert the Polar Cub cools my soft-walled Outfitter just fine. Personally I would skip the usually POS factory microwave and just buy one somewhere else for a better price.X2 I would not even consider an A/C at time of purchase, if it was any bigger than 10,000 BTU or could not be ran on a Honda 2000. I would order without the A/C, and have the appropriate A/C installed. $650 - Coleman-Mach 8 Cub Air Conditioner 9200 BTU $500 Dometic DUOTHERM BRISK AIR CONDITIONER 11000 BTU About $100 to $200 labor for the install.
Reddog1 11/15/15 06:44pm Truck Campers
RE: What would You Order?

Skip the built in gen and just buy a Honda 2K for less then $1k. If possible get the Polar Cub 8.5K btu air conditioner. It will cycle less then a 13.5K and draw less power. Even out here in the desert the Polar Cub cools my soft-walled Outfitter just fine. Personally I would skip the usually POS factory microwave and just buy one somewhere else for a better price.
Steve_in_29 11/15/15 04:37pm Truck Campers
RE: Hey Mr. Mark.........You can park next to my coach anytime.

We had the opportunity and pleasure to spend last weekend with Mr. Mark and about 20 other Prevost owners, and to borrow a old advertising phrase from Honda; You meet the nicest people in a Prevost! Seeing as how so many previously owned Prevosts sell quickly, I believe more RVers are getting to appreciate the solidity and ride of Prevosts. We're getting ours about as soon as we sell our current coach. Hope our tracks cross again on the future. We want to see your new set of wheels when you get them! Safe travels. MM. PS. Your wife seem to really like the 'how do you catch the polar bear joke'. LOL! MM.
Mr.Mark 11/01/15 07:20pm Class A Motorhomes
RE: So would you go with a built in propane generator today?

I replaced my 13.5 ac unit with a polar cub. I also installed a hard start capacitor. I have a honda 2000 generator that I installed a propane adapter on. It runs my ac unit without a problem. It fits in my Lance 1130 generator compartment. I never carry gasoline and it seems to sip the propane.
Makojoe238 10/28/15 06:32pm Truck Campers
RE: 13,500 A/C AND "hard start" capacitors AND genny's

One Honda Eu2000i running 13.5k BTU AC, if it starts it at all, will have a pretty annoying "bark" to the pitch of the exhaust tone, the motor is laboring mighty hard. And it's not good for the longevity of the single motor. Better to split the load with a paired set of Eu2000i's, or get an Eu3000i instead. In eco mode, the Eu3000i is the quietest unit, by far, of any gen set I have camped around. It is noticeable.You're making the assumption that ALL 13.5k BTU a/c units have the same power requirements. They don't. very good point. the coleman MachIII version that is low current is very close to the same inrush and running current as my coleman power cub 9000BTU unit on my 2nd trailer. the honda 2000 will easily start and run the polar cub even in eco mode under almost all conditions. the only time I need to turn off eco mode is at altitudes above about 6,000ft on a day in the 90's. not real common. On the other hand it's ALMOST enough to start the regular coleman Mach III I have. not reliably, if it could hang on for another second it would probably start it. Remember "barely adequate" and "almost adequate" are NOT the same!! unfortunetly for the standard coleman machIII the honda 2000 IMHO is in the "almost adequate" category for that AC unit
ktmrfs 09/27/15 04:02pm Tech Issues
RE: DC Air conditioner worth it?

FYI. You don't say what size RV you have but a Coleman Mach 3 PS 13.5 BTU or a Polar Cub 9200 BTU will run on a Honda 2000.
Big Katuna 09/02/15 05:39pm Do It Yourself Modifications and Upgrades (DIY)
RE: Coleman Cub 9200btu

Have a Polar Cub 9200 and it works great on my 1055 with a honda 2000 Towpro you are correct I have the new version, and it starts and runs on my Honda 2000. Even after I installed a relay and remote thermostat that turns on and off the complete unit when AC is called for.
towpro 08/17/15 08:15am Truck Campers
RE: Coleman Cub 9200btu

Have a Polar Cub 9200 and it works great on my 1055 with a honda 2000 Towpro you are correct
Buzzcut1 08/17/15 07:55am Truck Campers
RE: Coleman Mach 8 Low Profile 9,200 BTU Review

we're very happy w/ our polar cub 9200 in our eagle cap 960 as well. used it up to 107 degree weather just last week and it got it down to low 70's in no time. Are you sure your unit is the 9,000btu? I thought eagle cap was putting the 13,500btu unit.., (And it is a lie the 13.5 btu will run off a honda 2000 generator) From TCM. Clicky TCM: Eagle Cap is changing to low-profile 13,500 BTU air conditioners for 2015. Will the new air conditioners run off a portable 2,000 watt generator like a Honda EU2000i? Greg: Yes, they will, although they will not run on a portable 2,000 watt generator at high elevations. This is another customer driven request that we have heard. The lower profile air conditioners are more money, but we can order in volume so the price comes down. 2015-Eagle-Cap-Low-Profile-AC Above: The Coleman Mach 8, a 13,500 BTU high-efficiency low profile air conditioner TCM: What air conditioner are you using? Greg: It’s a Coleman Mach 8 which is a 13,500 BTU high-efficiency air conditioner. You gain more BTUs and it draws less power. Plus, our campers are well insulated, further increasing efficiency. Low profile is the bigger request, especially on the taller 1160 and 1165 models.I have a lance with a 13,500 easy start and my honda 2000 runs it just fine.
Pwrstrok 07/08/15 06:30pm Truck Campers
RE: Coleman Mach 8 Low Profile 9,200 BTU Review

Looks like Airxcel doesn't make a smaller unit anymore, at least I couldn't find it on the web site. Here is some information on their Polar Cub: Polar Cub product sheet Comparing the maximum current draw of the existing units with this one you can see why it can run at on a 15 amp circuit or with a single Honda 2000 generator
brholt 07/07/15 04:19pm Truck Campers
RE: Coleman Mach 8 Low Profile 9,200 BTU Review

When I got ordered my AF 1150 I tried to get the Polar Cub. Northwood refused, the dealer believed they order mass quantities of airconditioners to get discounts and put the same airconditioners in everything. I wanted the Polar Cub both for the smaller size (older threads here suggested it would be sufficient) and the lower profile. To get around Northwood we ordered it without the AC and the dealer installed the Polar Cub. So far I haven't run into any temperatures it could not handle. Being smaller it may have to run "more" than the 13,500 units they normally install but cycling less means better dehumidification. What year model AF? My 08 990 came from the factory with the Dometic 11K AC. It worked great with the Honda 2000. I thought Arctic Fox used the 11K on all truck campers. It would be a shame if they indeed went to the 13.5 as I think the 11K is perfectly sized, Brad
JacintoKid 07/07/15 02:35pm Truck Campers
RE: Coleman Mach 8 Low Profile 9,200 BTU Review

we're very happy w/ our polar cub 9200 in our eagle cap 960 as well. used it up to 107 degree weather just last week and it got it down to low 70's in no time. Are you sure your unit is the 9,000btu? I thought eagle cap was putting the 13,500btu unit.., (And it is a lie the 13.5 btu will run off a honda 2000 generator) From TCM. Clicky TCM: Eagle Cap is changing to low-profile 13,500 BTU air conditioners for 2015. Will the new air conditioners run off a portable 2,000 watt generator like a Honda EU2000i? Greg: Yes, they will, although they will not run on a portable 2,000 watt generator at high elevations. This is another customer driven request that we have heard. The lower profile air conditioners are more money, but we can order in volume so the price comes down. 2015-Eagle-Cap-Low-Profile-AC Above: The Coleman Mach 8, a 13,500 BTU high-efficiency low profile air conditioner TCM: What air conditioner are you using? Greg: It’s a Coleman Mach 8 which is a 13,500 BTU high-efficiency air conditioner. You gain more BTUs and it draws less power. Plus, our campers are well insulated, further increasing efficiency. Low profile is the bigger request, especially on the taller 1160 and 1165 models.
anutami 07/05/15 03:20pm Truck Campers
A/C AND Generator Questions

I've now have a toy hauler but my years with the truck camper forum makes me sure ya'll are better informed on this than anyone. Back in the day when I had my Lance I switched out my A/C unit to a Coleman Polar Cub 8000 so I could have A/C using my Honda 2000i. My toy hauler has the same problem, an over-sized A/C unit. (The living section is only 16' with no slides.) Up until now this has not been an issue since I moved to Utah and I'm at a comfortable elevation when camping so there has been no need for A/C...until now. I also use the toy hauler to transport my track motorcycles to tracks that are located in desert areas of Nevada and southern California where the A/C would be great between track sessions. I understand the Polar Cub 8000 is no longer available and now the Coleman Mach 8 is the smallest unit available from Coleman. Will the Mach 8 run on a single Honda 2000i? Assuming it will, I'll still be close to the price of a second Honda 2000i. So it might make more sense sense to go that route and parallel their outputs and stay with with I have since space with the toy hauler isn't the concern it was with the Lance. Ideas? Suggestions? Alternatives? What am I missing in my analysis? Thanks
eddd 06/15/15 02:34pm Truck Campers
RE: Help me choose a AC replacement

If you go with a different brand, you'll have to buy the lower unit as well. I've heard of and read about some people not being able to run a Honda 2K watt genny with the new version of the Polar Cub, or whatever they call it now. Maybe look at the 11K BTU Coleman Mach Powersaver AC YES, the 11k Coleman does the trick, just went thru the research on this and that was my choice. Got down to camping world and talked with the AC man, he said Coleman Mach is the way to go, best unit out there.
17oaks 06/10/15 06:20pm Truck Campers
RE: Help me choose a AC replacement

If you go with a different brand, you'll have to buy the lower unit as well. I've heard of and read about some people not being able to run a Honda 2K watt genny with the new version of the Polar Cub, or whatever they call it now. Maybe look at the 11K BTU Coleman Mach Powersaver AC
joeshmoe 05/31/15 04:59pm Truck Campers
RE: More BTU's

You should be able to get the inside of the camper near 20 degree's cooler than the outside temp , that may take awile though If you change AC`s ,like joeshmoe said look at the 11k powersaver , it runs at 1260 watts at desert conditions as per Airxcel`s specs , your mach 8 runs at 1550 watts , I have a 11k PS also and it runs just like a pre - green freon Polar cub on a Honda If you want more BTU`s than that check out the 13k power saver it runs at desert at 1320 watts , both power savers are 320 CFM`s , your Mach is 300 CFM`s On the bad side both power savers are not low profile like your Mach cub is , they- Airexcel - say they cant find a compressor that is horizontal that will run at low amps any more
okan-star 04/22/15 08:33pm Truck Campers
RE: 9,200 BTU AC AND 2000 watt genny

I am not a HVAC tech but this is what I learned when I recently researched, bought and installed my RV AC unit. Somewhere around 2010 air conditioner manufacturers phased out R22 and started using r410a. r410a runs at a higher pressure. I was at one of the largest RV dealerships in Las Vegas and I told them I was trying to buy an air conditioner that would operate with my Honda eu2000i generator. The short answer was, "not gonna happen in Las Vegas when you really need it during summer heat, you need more power. It will run it when temperatures are cooler but not during our summer". Plus low power equals short air conditioner life. The low amp leader is not the Mach 8 9200, it's the Mach 1 PS 11000. If you check the amp draw, it beats the Mach 8 9200, previously known as the Polar cub.
dadwolf2 03/26/15 09:26pm Truck Campers
RE: 9,200 BTU AC AND 2000 watt genny

We also have the 9200 Polar Cub Mach AC and a Honda 2000. It runs the AC pretty much anywhere just fine and our LED lighting and short time water pump But NOT that and the microwave at the same time for more than a couple minutes before the warning comes on the generator. Run the fridge on propane at those times and water heater is manual gas. The TV and satellite receiver don't seem to bother it at the Dame time as the AC either. As we don't have a battery to charge or inverter to run there isn't as much draw. The Honda starts at 2000w but runs at 1600 to 1800 so watch those numbers. It's really not that big a deal to turn off the AC for a couple minutes to do something else that requires more power. At least not to us.
trailgranny50 03/25/15 07:54pm Truck Campers
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