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RE: Cheapest source for Honda 2000 genny?

My motto when purchasing most things is this, "Buy once, cry once." That definitely holds true for Honda generators, I need to cry twice. I want a 2nd one. I find I really only use mine when I need AC. with one powering the polar cub AC (on eco) the Honda 2000 is running at a pretty good RPM. But I think if I had 2 generators running, the RPM's would be lower because each generator is supplying 1/2 the power requirements, thus the total noise level will be lower. back to the OP, right now Honda has a sale going on. $100 off, plus an additional $100 mail in rebate if you use a Honda credit card. (no interest for 12 months if you charge over $500) valid 10/5/17-12/3/17 I hear you on that one. Air Conditioning when my wife wants to use her blow dryer etc. is the only time I really have used the generator so far with the camper. It is great to have as backup however even if you don't use it a lot. Where I live here in Wyoming, A/C up in the mountains is not a necessity so it really depends where we are camping whether I need it or not. The few times I have used the generator for A/C it has worked just fine. One thing about a portable one though is I can use it for other things outside of just camping.
WyoBull 11/03/17 08:17am Truck Campers
RE: Cheapest source for Honda 2000 genny?

My motto when purchasing most things is this, "Buy once, cry once." That definitely holds true for Honda generators, I need to cry twice. I want a 2nd one. I find I really only use mine when I need AC. with one powering the polar cub AC (on eco) the Honda 2000 is running at a pretty good RPM. But I think if I had 2 generators running, the RPM's would be lower because each generator is supplying 1/2 the power requirements, thus the total noise level will be lower. back to the OP, right now Honda has a sale going on. $100 off, plus an additional $100 mail in rebate if you use a Honda credit card. (no interest for 12 months if you charge over $500) valid 10/5/17-12/3/17
towpro 11/03/17 07:43am Truck Campers
RE: Dometic AC Hard Start Kit

Once down to 3000 ft or so with the same temperatures no problem, it will run the ac all day long. Now, at 4500Ft and 100F, the little honda 2000 is probably running at or near max output with the AC on. No doubt - according to Honda the EU2000i's stock #62 jet should be good to 5,000' but nevertheless Honda still expects ~ 3.5% decrease in engine horsepower for every 1000' of elevation above sea level - that's ~ 15.75% @ 4500'. Between 5,000' and 10,000' the main jet should be changed to a #60, above 10,000' to a #58. At 10,000' though that still can't overcome a 35% loss in engine horsepower. However, the larger EU3000iS with more horsepower to start with should handle the task of powering a Micro-Air equipped 13,500 BTU A/C. :) correct. In all reality the honda 2000 is in the "barely adequate" category to supply running current to most older AC units at near sea level. Then it goes to "almost adequate" at some higher altitude around 3-4K feet. And "barely" and "almost" are NOT the same thing! Now, many of the newer AC units are higher efficiency and draw around 11A max load instead of the 13-15A. I have a polar cub 9000BTU unit that draws about 11A max on my small trailer. It also has a lower locked rotor draw and lower inrush. My honda 2000 will start and run that factory configuration in eco mode everyplace I've been. That includes altitudes near 8000ft with temps in the 90's. Now if the honda 2000 was either 2000W continous or 2200 watts peak, that would with the microair solve almost every problem. Or, use it with the newer high efficiency AC units.
ktmrfs 10/29/17 12:05pm Travel Trailers
Need some updated info on A/C

I haven't been active on the forums for a while, but used to spend lots of time on the truck camper forum back in the day. When I had my Lance truck camper I replaced the 13,500 btu a/c unit with with 8,000 Coleman Polar Cub. It was a perfect match for my Honda EU2000i. I no longer have an RV, but when I had a toy hauler I recall looking for the 8,000 btu Coleman but finding it was no longer available. A couple of friends who are new to RVing are running into the problem of powering their large A/C units at elevation with their generators. So my question for the collective brain power and experience found on this forum is what is the current best setup a roof top A/C that can run on the smaller/lighter/quieter generators? What else should be included in the package...like maybe a hard start capacitor? I've been doing some searching, but I'm only getting bits and pieces of information whereas I know some of you have already addressed this situation and can provide information on a total package that works best. Thanks in advance.
eddd 09/03/17 01:43pm Tech Issues
RE: F-150 Ecoboost towing

Sorry guys no "jealousy or inadequacies" here. I did the GM thing as my Dad worked for GM. My very first new car was a total POS and GM told me and my Dad too bad so sad. I drank from the Blue Oval Kool-Aid cup for many years and every last one of them were pure junk! So then I went on to Chrysler and have to say I have never had any of the problems that I did with the other two. BTW I started buying Chrysler's before I worked for them. n My experience has been quite the opposite. My first Mopar was a 71 Dodge Challenger. While I loved that car and wish I still had it, it was poorly designed compared to my friend's Torinos, Mustangs, Camaros, 442s and Firebirds. About the only things it bear for reliability were the MGs and Triumphs. I continues with a long list of Chrysler products as well as GM, Ford,Toyota, Honda, Hyundai, Datsun and MB. Chrysler, by far, was the least reliable with the exception of MB. Now that the polar of reliability owns them, I don't think I would touch one. As someone pointed out, though, this has nothing to do with the original question.
jfkmk 08/25/17 05:16am Tow Vehicles
RE: Bent Trailer Hitch Ball

Spring bars at or below tongue weight? That is an opinion and mine is the polar opposite based on actual experience. Speaking for nothing larger than 1/2 tons, I have found on repeated occasions having WD bars at or below the ton weight results in poor weight distribution and a soft rear end. This gets people looking at bags and helper springs and does not help handling. I run 1400 bars with a Hensley and 900+ (max weighed was 960lbs) tongue on my SUV and could not be happier. My camping buddy was running 1000lbs bars with his F-150 with exact same tongue weight (high 900's) and complained he was tensioning the bars too much (was upto 7 washers and was hard to connect) to get weight back on the front wheels. A new WDH with 1400lbs fixed it and the rig drives as he expects now. Many years ago I towed with a Honda Pilot and it too was near max. I ran 600lbs bars with a 400+ tongue weight and it did ok. Then I bumped to 1000lb bars for cheap and WHAT A DIFFERENCE! It's poor advice to assume the WD bars should be at or below tongue weight for every tow vehicle. IMO, 1/2 tons and less, always round up to the next size bar. There's actually no reason not to. Rounding up just one size will not result in a harsh ride, doubling what you need would! Handling will be what it should be and you wont need to think about air bags and helper springs because the WDH is doing what its designed to do.
RinconVTR 08/03/17 08:27am Travel Trailers
RE: Air Conditioner

Kayteg1, you may consider contacting Honda and correcting them on their specs for the Honda 2000. The information I posted is from their spec sheet. I am sure they would be appreciative considering all of the engineering they have done. Wayne EDIT: I have a Polar Cub, Honda 2000, Microwave, and a 55 amp Iota Charger. I have had all of these over ten years, including the spec sheets and personal experience.
Reddog1 07/25/17 01:41pm Truck Campers
RE: Air Conditioner

Off topic questions: Will a single Honda 2000i generator start and run the air conditioner the OP is installing?It should run the A/C, but not the heat strip. From the Spec sheet. Cooling the compressor requires 8.9 amps, and the high I.D. motor (fan) is 1.2. A total (maximum) of 10.1 amps. The specs say O.D. motor is 1.6. I don't know what the O.D. motor is. The Honda 2000 output is 13.3 amps, from the spec sheet. So, that leaves you with about 3.2 amps to spare. I have a Polar Cub which requires a maximum of 9 amps. The Honda runs the Cub just fine. I run the Honda in the Eco mode. Wayne Thanks Wayne - a Polar Cub would very likely be enough in my Snowbird 810 - I don't use it in temps much above 90F...at 3500 - 5000 ft
noteven 07/23/17 09:09pm Truck Campers
RE: Air Conditioner

Off topic questions: Will a single Honda 2000i generator start and run the air conditioner the OP is installing?It should run the A/C, but not the heat strip. From the Spec sheet. Cooling the compressor requires 8.9 amps, and the high I.D. motor (fan) is 1.2. A total (maximum) of 10.1 amps. The specs say O.D. motor is 1.6. I don't know what the O.D. motor is. The Honda 2000 output is 13.3 amps, from the spec sheet. So, that leaves you with about 3.2 amps to spare. I have a Polar Cub which requires a maximum of 9 amps. The Honda runs the Cub just fine. I run the Honda in the Eco mode. Wayne
Reddog1 07/23/17 12:27pm Truck Campers
RE: micro-air easy start

So guys, this video details install and tests this unit real time with inrush peak current meter. He has links to the specific times for each test etc. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soP0uZFd0nQ&t=1835s - Jeff similar results to what I obtained. see my post on micro air install results. I went from 60A inrush on the compressor alone down to about 25A inrush on 30A service line and when hooked to the honda 2000 on eco mode, had about a 10V peak voltage drop and 22A inrush current. ramped the honda up smoothly, even better than starting my low current draw, low inrush polar cub on another trailer I have. before, the honda 2000 was iffy on the start even with eco off at sea level and 80F or less temp. hit and miss on overload trip or not. Not anymore. Still end up with about a 1300VA draw on the honda 2000 which is rated at only 1600VA continous, so it's not going to give much headroom, but good for many occasions. Don't expect to run the AC and charge batteries, or run a fridge on AC, or turn on the microwave at the same time.
ktmrfs 05/09/17 12:01pm Tech Issues
RE: microair easy start results

What his excellent report also shows is what an outstanding piece of engineering the Microair Easy Start represents. Way to go .... both ktmrfs and Micro Air Corp.!!!! Now ... combine the Micro Air Easy Start with one of the new high efficiency 13.5K RV rooftop air conditioners ... and a single little Honda 2000i just might really shine at any temperature and altitude with Eco mode off or maybe on. yes that would be ideal. the new energy efficient ones draw around 10A which is similar to the polar cub on my smaller trailer. Now another comparison I can describe. my smaller trailer has a coleman power cub, 9,000BTU AC. it is much lower starting current and the honda 2000 will start and run it at 6,000ft plus on hot days. But if I compare subjective starting to the MachIII with easy start, the MachIII and easy start presents a lower initial load to the honda. If in eco mode the polar cub will cause the honda to immediately reve to full throttle and the rpm will vary for a few seconds before settling down as it gets over the inrush load. with the MachIII and easy start, the honda rev's up to final rpm without any fuss in one smooth rev cycle. so IMHO the easy start would be a must have for me on even the newer high efficiency AC units, and I may install one on the polar cub as well. I just need to make sure there is a spot to mount the easy start box.
ktmrfs 05/02/17 09:20am Tech Issues
to the honda2000 owners....

im wondering what kind of rooftop type air conditioner you guys are running with your honda 2000 generators. So far, ive found that the coleman polar cub 9200 and coleman mach 3 power saver can be run with this generator, just wondering if there is anything else.
Scott Malkinson 04/04/17 04:57pm Class B - Camping Van Conversions
RE: Running two 2000 watt generators in eco mode with AC on

With my A/C turned on and when the compressor cycles or kicks off, the fan continues to run, so the fan timed delay seems like it would only matter on initial start up? Maybe the easy start compressor start sequence is enough to enable my A/C to cycle back on with the Honda generator in ECO mode?Glad to be here to help! If your particular A/C keeps the evaporator fan on after the compressor cycles off, and yours is a Coleman low-profile, then yours likely has two separate fan motors. All the Polar Cubs and Mach 8s do in fact have 2 separate motors. So, although the evaporator fan may keep on running, I believe the condenser fan motor will start up coincident with the compressor (normally). Then, since the EasyStart will only delay the compressor startup, the effect on the Honda's ECO mode behavior should be the same. That is, the condenser fan starting up should be enough extra load to kick the Honda up to high RPM before the compressor starting sequence orchestrated by the EasyStart begins 5 seconds later.
Micro-Air 03/23/17 10:23am Tech Issues
RE: 1st View EC 1165 AND Host Mammoth

For the one interested in the 11,000 btu AC and a Honda EU2000 it will NOT start an 11,000 btu AC it will start and run a Polar Cub 9,000 btu AC. Don't know about the Yamaha 2400, all I know is the 11,000 AC requires more amps to start than the EU2000 puts out. The Polar Cub I installed on my EC950 starts and runs fine with my Eu2000. Gary
ggadwa 12/11/16 12:20pm Truck Campers
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