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RE: Disconnect load before stopping generator?

The idea that load must be removed prior to starting/stopping a generator seems to fly in the face of AGS systems used to keep an RV cool (for pets, for example) while the owner is not there. doesn't ... think about it the ATS in the RV does not connect the RV to generator until after the the generator has started running, there is NO load on the RV generator until the ATS closes, then the A/C can come onAnd when the generator stops?
4x4van 07/12/19 12:28pm Tech Issues
RE: Disconnect load before stopping generator?

The idea that load must be removed prior to starting/stopping a generator seems to fly in the face of AGS systems used to keep an RV cool (for pets, for example) while the owner is not there.
4x4van 07/11/19 03:25pm Tech Issues
RE: Low Point Drain Valve Access 2004 Fleetwood 26Q

Are you sure that they "turn"? Some valves are "pull" to open.
4x4van 07/11/19 11:17am Class C Motorhomes
RE: Wind Noise

You ever driven a gasser on the F53? I've had three from different manufacturers - noise is part of the game. And I think manufacturers could care less if it's loud or how it rides or any real quality for that matter, as evidenced by the number of complaints and warranty work back ups. Interesting. I have an '04 Itasca class A on the gasser workhorse chassis, and it is not loud at all, other than some engine noise when downshifted on a grade or when the fan clutch kicks in, but even then it's not bad. My wife and I have no problem holding a normal conversation while going 65mph.
4x4van 07/11/19 11:08am Class A Motorhomes
RE: 2004 itasca sunrise Toilet parts

Sounds like a previous owner may have replaced the toilet with something non-standard. My '04 Itasca uses the Sealand Traveler Lite 100, and I see no "CHH" toilets in any Winnebago Itasca parts lists/catalogs.
4x4van 07/11/19 10:50am Class A Motorhomes
RE: I hate dinettes

Have owned, borrowed, rented, and walked all types of rv. That does not make me an expert but it does leave me with some perspective and the more matured I become in my rv age, the more confirmed I am that the rv industry in order to see more explosive growth needs to bring to a rapid end the addition of the proverbial dinette to any and every type of rv. Please just stop! My reasons are several but basically revolve around the simple fact that sitting one for more than five minutes is absolute torture. In fact I wish we could all ship our dinette to Guantanamo. Make a terrorist sit in one for more than 5 minutes and he/she will tell u everything they know. Painful I say and also purposeless. Indoor tables are not needed for meals. Even in our homes very few Americans eat at tables. And if we do while camping, it is the outside picnic table. So why does the rv industry force us to go backwards by 20 years and give us sore backs at the same time? Maybe it is to play games which again I say are so much more enjoyable outside. So please rv industry leaders stop with the dinette. Give us another couch or comfortable chairs or even more bunks for the neighbor's kids. I saw one ad recently for a moderately priced 38' class 8 that slept 8.i had to ask how. The answer was a picture of a dinette area removed to be replaced by floor to ceiling 3 bunks. Genius thought I. Whew... Thanks for listening. I feel so much better having gotten that of my chest.The RV industry is experiencing quite the explosive growth as it is, I would say. And part of that is by offering what the majority of their buyers want. While you may hate dinettes in RVs, you hopefully have now seen and understand that many others feel the opposite. I could just as easily say "Please, RV manufacturers, stop with the single purpose table/chairs, or add'l couch. Give us somewhere for a family to sit down and eat together, play board games, look over maps, etc." And why would I want to sleep 8 while not being able to "seat" 8?!?!. Ever hear the "6-4-2" rule? 6 for drinks, 4 for dinner, 2 for sleeping! My A, with a dinette, a couch, and the 2 swivel cab chairs, fits that rule perfectly, although I CAN sleep up to 6 if I want to. Many RVs do offer table & chairs instead, or a couch with a couple of small removable tables, so you actually do have a choice. And let's face it; it's much easier to remove a dinette and install a couch or a table/chairs than it is to do the opposite, if that's what you want. I certainly hope that RV manufacturers don't take your "advice" and eliminate MY choice; and it seems more than a bit arrogant for you to suggest such.
4x4van 07/03/19 04:43pm General RVing Issues
RE: Anderson kantleak water valve

There are only 2 ways for city water to get into the fresh water tank. 1. The built-in check valve in the water pump is leaking, allowing the city water to flow backwards through the pump into the tank. 2. The "city fill" valve is leaking when in the City position. If, when using the tank/pump only, the system loses pressure and the pump cycles occasionally, that would point to the pump check valve. To verify, disconnect your line from the tank at the pump. Now turn on your city water. If water leaks back through the pump, then it's the pump's check valve. If not, you know that it's the Anderson valve. IMO, any time engineers come up with a single unit to address multiple configurations, they are asking for trouble (and I AM an engineer). A 4-way valve (such as the Anderson) is an overly complex part for a fairly simple function. My Itasca has a simple 2 position valve for either city water or tank fill, and another (elsewhere) for winterizing. While either CAN fail, a 2-way valve is less likely than a 4-way valve to do so. Unfortunately, it would take some re-plumbing to convert your system in an effort to eliminate the troublesome Anderson "kantleak" valve.
4x4van 06/27/19 11:09am Class C Motorhomes
RE: mild rant, contractors and repair folks

You're cherry-picking a statement to create an incorrect narrative. If I do electrical work and you call me and leave a message saying you want to have a deck built, there's no rule, law or moral obligation I have to return your call.Never have I suggested such. My business is actually better suited if I focus on calls related to electrical work. Once I call all those potential customers back, if I have time and I remember, then maybe I'll call you back to decline the work. Perhaps you're better than most and you don't call people for jobs outside their trade, but (as already mentioned in this thread) walk a mile in our boots and see how many calls you get that are absolutely of no interest.I have indeed "walked a mile". Most people do not call businesses for work that is outside that business's trade, as you claim, and I have never stated that you should return calls from those that do. No, I don't advertise, and yes, I work in a very specific field. But thanks to contractor listing aggregating services, I frequently get calls from people who want something done that I don't do. Imagine getting this call: "Hello, ABC Electric" -Yes, I need a new roof "Sir I don't do that type of work" -What do you do then? "I do electrical work" -For remodels? Or new houses? "Doesn't matter, I don't do roofs" -Do you know someone that does? "No" -Who should I call then" "I don't know" -But you're a contractor, don't you know someone "No" -Well what happened is a tree fell on my roof and I told the neighbor that they needed to get that tree taken down but they didn't listen... "Click" -Well that was rude, guess I'll never call him again...Nothing in my post came anywhere near resembling this fictional exchange, nor have I ever claimed that an electrician should entertain calls about roofing; idiots should never be entertained. Your "example" is so far out of the ordinary as to border on the inane. You and I both know that the majority of calls that ANY business gets ARE legitimate and do not sound like your example. And listen, if you tell someone you'll be there or that you'll do something, then honor your word. I never disagreed that that notion.And yet that is exactly the part of my post that you quoted in order to call me entitled. So if anyone is "cherry picking" to create a false narrative, it's you. My "legitimate" inquiry to a business IS relevant, and my time IS just as important as yours, and your accusation that I'm "entitled" because I feel that way is not only out of line, but quite insulting as well. You are trying to throw oranges at a discussion about apples. It may be entertaining, but bears little resemblance to real life. You might consider going back and re-reading the original post; it has very little to do with what you are currently whining about.
4x4van 06/25/19 03:50pm General RVing Issues
RE: mild rant, contractors and repair folks

I have no problem being told no. I DO have a problem being ignored, or worse, being told that you will show up at a certain time and then you don't bother. Newsflash, my time is just as important as yours, if not more so. That statement shows a strong sense of entitlement. You don't like being ignored? Well, how does your rights of attention trump my rights of not being bothered? In this case, the customer calls the contractor, not the other way around. Should I feel a required to respond to something that I didn't request? That's really no different than a spam call or junk mail. Your time is absolutely not important than my time...and vice versa. Wow, seriously? Sense of entitlement? Your rights of "not being bothered"? "Something you didn't request"? Am I missing something here, or are you actually saying that a contractor doesn't want anyone to contact them for work? Then how do they get their customers in the first place in order to stay in business? Do they not have advertisements? A business/phone # listed online? So you consider someone who sees an ad and calls, to be spam or junk mail? I'm really confused as to what business considers every potential customer who calls "spam/junk". Keep in mind that if your particular business does NOT advertise and relies on either word of mouth or you actually going out and soliciting for business only (which seems to be the case for you), then I wouldn't be cold calling you in the first place, would I? I see absolutely no "sense of entitlement" in expecting a business owner that is advertising for work to actually answer/return the calls of those who he is actively pursuing. I also see no "sense of entitlement" in expecting someone to actually show up when and where they said they would. You see a "sense of entitlement" from that????:? At 57 years old, I'm well aware of the fact that some businesses want customers and some evidently don't; and I'm perfectly willing to give them exactly what they "want".
4x4van 06/25/19 09:55am General RVing Issues
RE: mild rant, contractors and repair folks

I have a hard time believing that any business is SO busy that they can't return calls from potential customers, even if it is to say, sorry I can't/don't/won't do your requested project. It takes all of 30 seconds to do so, and while you may consider it wasted time, it may very well be the difference between staying in business and going bankrupt 2-5-8 years down the road when the economy changes (which it always does) and you are scraping for work. In 2005, we had a room addition done to our house. Unfortunately, the economy was booming and housing developments were going on everywhere. Out of 10 contractors that I called (whose ads specifically included "room additions"), 7 didn't even bother to return my call/message. The 3 that did were honest about the fact that they were working on large developments and either couldn't help me or that they would have to fit me in when they could. No problem, I understood, and I ended up hiring one of them. Fast forward a few years when the economy crashed, and most of those 7 that ignored me are no longer around. The 3 that returned my calls? They survived and are still in business today. Coincidence? No, the simple result of customer service. I have no problem being told no. I DO have a problem being ignored, or worse, being told that you will show up at a certain time and then you don't bother. Newsflash, my time is just as important as yours, if not more so.
4x4van 06/20/19 03:54pm General RVing Issues
RE: mild rant, contractors and repair folks

Well, reading through these posts, there are several here that I would certainly not want to hire. If you can't even be bothered to talk to me, what makes me believe that it would be any different during the job if I did hire you? Here's my take: I worked out of my house doing civil engineering for a number of years. Some good years, some lean years. But I never ignored a potential customer; I always gave them the courtesy of taking their call/listening to them. If they called, I answered, even if I had to tell them I was currently swamped and couldn't do their job, but "keep me in mind for any future work". The result was that when the economy turned sour, I still had customers. And back to the OP's actual complaint; If I said I'd be somewhere at a certain time...I WAS THERE AT THAT TIME. PERIOD. My dad always said; early is on time, on-time is late, late is...don't even bother.
4x4van 06/19/19 05:11pm General RVing Issues
RE: Tire plugs

Most reputable tire retailers will use a plug/patch combo, installed from the inside. Personally, I've used plugs quite a few times over the last 40 years, sometimes with the tire still on the vehicle, and have not had a single one fail. However, I probably wouldn't try it on my MH simply because of the weight/pressure involved.
4x4van 06/19/19 04:43pm General RVing Issues
RE: Class A-what year is it?

Several people have already posted links to the RVIA info on this, so I'm not going to do that again, but ALL states SHOULD be using the RV manufacturer's model yr designation, not the chassis yr. Some DMV employees don't do it that way, but they are WRONG, and those RV registrations SHOULD be corrected. Ferndaleflyer; your situation could result in less money in your pocket when you go to sell, albeit probably not a huge difference. For what it's worth, my current RV is a 2004 model, built in 2004, on a 2004 chassis (that was built in 2004) there is no question; DMV agrees that it's a 2004. However, my last RV was a 1988 model RV, built in 1988 on a 1987 Ford chassis (that was actually built in 1986). DMV registration correctly lists it as a 1988.
4x4van 06/19/19 04:05pm Class A Motorhomes
RE: Hose question........

I bought a 50' hose, cut it into a 15' and a 35'. That gives me 3 options for water: 15', 35' or 50'; have never needed more than that. Got 20' of sewer hose (2-10' sections); usually 10' is enough. I use an old green 10' hose for flush.
4x4van 06/14/19 01:46pm Beginning RVing
RE: Caulking Roof to gutter

Dicor is a great sealant, but a lousy "glue". The roof edge seal on Winnebagos/Itascas need "glue", specifically: Manus Bond 75AM
4x4van 06/14/19 12:46pm Class A Motorhomes
RE: Leveling and turning on your refrigerator?

As has been pointed out, there is no real need to be a math wiz or anything of the sort. The actual numbers result in some pretty steep slopes; 10" side-to-side (of the RV) is very extreme. 10" front-to-back (of the RV), while not as extreme, is still pretty significant, and easily noticeable. If you can walk around comfortably, sleep without falling out of bed, and stuff doesn't quickly roll off the table, you are likely close enough. Measuring and bubble levels are fine, but if you simply look around your RV, and it is level enough to spend time in comfortably, then it's level enough for the fridge.
4x4van 06/04/19 01:02pm Beginning RVing
RE: Online Oil Filter Dissection And Discussion

This is old news and is neither fair nor accurate.
4x4van 05/31/19 04:57pm Tech Issues
RE: Question about rear Dining/Living/Bed

My last C, a 26' Jamboree, was what was known as the "party plan". It had a couch, two swivel chairs (with a pull out table between them), and a dinette, along with a full width rear bath; the only dedicated bed was the overhead. The layout gave us tons of living/seating area (could easily seat 9 even without the swivel cab seats) for the "party", yet still had a dedicated bed (the crow's nest, as some have called it). The dinette made into a bed (albeit for short people) and the coach pulled into a bed, so we could sleep 6. DW & I slept up top, and when our kids came along they would use the couch and dinette. It took only a minute to set up/take down those beds, but it was kind of a pain to make sure everyone was up in order to make breakfast, and of course the party had to move outside if they wanted to go to bed early. Overall, we loved the layout, since the dedicated floor space for "living" was larger than with a floor level bed. Although we now have an A, I believe that one of the advantages of a C is that the overhead bed allows more of the floorspace to be used for "living" as opposed to sleeping, as long as you are physically able to climb up & down every night.
4x4van 05/30/19 02:58pm Class C Motorhomes
RE: Tape with Capsicum In It

Not too sure I buy the idea that birds don't detect hot. Went to the beach last year and a relative brought some beef jerky that was some ungodly hot. One little taste and your mouth and throat was on fire for hours. Left the open bag on the picnic table. Now anyone who has spent any time on west coast beaches knows that seagulls will and do eat anything left out. They will open up closed bags of food and pretty much destroy your campsite. That open bag of jerky sat there on the table for 2 days; the seagulls came & investigated, shoved the bag around a bit, tasted it, and then left it alone and gave it a wide berth! As for capsicum tape; It wouldn't be practical for a car owner to try to wrap their wiring; you couldn't get to all of it. Perhaps if the manufacturers used it for the wiring harness before the car was built?
4x4van 05/29/19 04:13pm General RVing Issues
RE: Generator questions

I have no clue what the issue is or what you are trying to get across since you have contradicted yourself several times. You say that it has run before for 2 days and the fuel gauge always goes down. But it won't run now, the fuel gauge reads full, and trying to add gas spills out of the filler neck. Why would you suspect that it is low on fuel? I'd be checking the fuel filter, as well as the fuel pump (on the generator, not the fueling station).
4x4van 05/29/19 02:23pm Beginning RVing
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