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RE: Purchasing New Host Everest 11.6, Help Please

We put in an order around this time in 2016, but asked for build after April 2017. This gave us a 2018 model. If you get the details squared away and ask for an April 2021 build, it will be a 2022 model.
Bedlam 10/27/20 09:09am Truck Campers
RE: Firestone Ride-Rite Airspring Defective Design Bent Brackets

On the HD trucks, Firestone sells two versions: One version sits under the frame rail and replaces the jounce stop - This is used for setups with goose neck or fifth wheel hardware. The better setup bolts to the outboard side of the frame rail - This gives you a wider support stance and more axle to frame clearance. I do not know if this is an option with the light duty trucks or you only have one choice. I found if I inflated my airbags to the point where my overload springs did not engage, the ride quality would wallow on the bags. You need to keep the metal engaged and just help the sag with the bags. If this setup creates an unlevel ride, you need more preload in your stock suspension by using blocks or wedges to engage your overloads sooner.
Bedlam 10/27/20 08:58am Truck Campers
RE: 200,000 Mile Milestone

That looks like a good ratio between idle and drive hours. You must do much more highway than me based on the mileage and those numbers. My truck averages less than 1000 miles a month and will take about 20 years to reach that milestone. I'm something under 60k and have only had to replace the batteries after five plus years of service. My last truck batteries lasted over seven, so I was a little surprised to see OEM batteries run down so quick.
Bedlam 10/26/20 04:18pm Tow Vehicles
RE: Putting AF 811 SB into a long box DRW truck

You just need to box a frame out up front so the camper wings do not slide into your tail lights. Some people store outdoor furniture or popups in this area while others store fuel, propane, generators or other items. The CG and under camper support will be fine, so you will have no worries about these items. You may find your front tie downs are too far for your turnbuckles or the turn buckles interfere with the DRW fenders. Using Torklift's camper tie down relocation kit is the simplest solution, but some people will anchor off the front jack brackets instead. If the turnbuckle is still too short, you can add chain between the turnbuckle and tie down to get the additional length required.
Bedlam 10/26/20 04:03pm Truck Campers
RE: Toy Hauler legend has passed

The larger models in that series had dual AC which required it, but mine was fine with a single 15k unit. When we would camp with hookups, I could run two space heaters on 50A and keep the camper cozy in sub freezing temperatures without using LPG. I also had installed a Hot Rod into the water tank, so I could run hot water on exclusively electric or run both at the same for faster recovery.
Bedlam 10/26/20 12:53pm Toy Haulers
RE: Blue water in black tank - does it freeze?

Unless the tank is right full where the water has nowhere to go when it expands it won't cause a problem when it freezes. The freezing temperature of blue water is lower than regular water but nowhere near as low as the pink stuff. You may find your dump valves frozen solid and will not move till thawed if water is in your waste tanks. This is not a problem if you plan to wait till Spring to use the camper again or you have access to the valves with a hair drier.
Bedlam 10/26/20 12:48pm Truck Campers
RE: Toy Hauler legend has passed

We camp in temperatures down to 10 degrees although try to find places in the 30's over the winter. We never stored ours for any season and used it year round (rain, shine or snow). Ours had two large single-pane picture windows and a slide out jack-knife couch section on the other side which was not insulated well either. The plus side was ours was the shortest wide-body model. This meant the frame was very robust for the size, it had 50A service, 5.5kw genset, 40 gallon fuel plus dispenser, dual 75 gallon fresh, 10 gallon hot water, filtered water dispenser and more. It really spoiled us compared with the fiberglass egg or popup tent trailers we had prior. We are on second truck camper now, but that is discussion for another section of this forum.
Bedlam 10/26/20 11:44am Toy Haulers
RE: Toy Hauler legend has passed

I had fond memories of my FB2200, but it was not insulated enough for the places we travel. I could easily draw down the dual batteries for just the furnace overnight and use over 30#'s of propane in two nights. It did spoil me with capacities not found in other 22' toy haulers...
Bedlam 10/26/20 10:48am Toy Haulers
RE: Purchasing New Host Everest 11.6, Help Please

Does Host publish MSRP prices for their base models and options like a typical car manufacturer? or do yo have to get that from a dealer? Good to know if the pricing you get from a dealer is the correct baseline to start any pricing negotiations let alone knowing if it is worth adding options during the initial purchase or afterwards. Thanks! If you work out a build sheet with Host for the standard and custom options for the model you want, you will get the MSRP prices. This is why it is import to contact Host before you start working with a dealer. If you can arrange a factory tour, it will be worth your time. This build sheet can be used to shop the dealer that provides you the best value. I will stress VALUE over price - Finding a good dealer is worth paying a little more if you want a good buying experience and after purchase support. I drove further to get a better dealer and better price. The value of that better dealer would have have been worth it for me even if his price was higher, so I prioritize service a little more than some...
Bedlam 10/26/20 10:25am Truck Campers
RE: next after Upper Stableloads? Jittery ride on rough pavement

From what I have researched, Ford Has highest rated front springs available but also the most variations in spring rates. I am not convinced you need additional spring capacity on the front since most campers add little weight to the front of the truck and most unload the front axle a little. I feel you get the most out the front end by changing to an adjustable damped shock and adding a larger stabilizer bar. What you can do for free or very little cost is weigh your truck axles at a truck stop and adjust your tire pressure based on the load inflation tables for your size tire. Although there is plenty of good advice, it does come down how your setup feels for you and none our advice should be taken as absolutes. It took me about five adjustments to make my previous truck comfortable and safe while my current truck only needed one.
Bedlam 10/22/20 12:09pm Truck Campers
RE: Purchasing New Host Everest 11.6, Help Please

If you have Class 5 truck like mine, the suspension is firm enough that I do not drop the jacks unless I am removing the camper. Most of the Class 3 trucks I see drop the jacks just enogh to slightly unload the suspension to make a firmer foundation when walking around inside the camper. You do not need drop jacks to deploy slides. The camper can be solely supported by the jacks when off the truck whether filled with water or empty. Some people prefer to add a backup support under the bed to reduce movement on the jacks and others use an anti-wobble system from StableCamper or Torklift to stiffen the front jacks on swing out brackets. I do not use any additional device or support when out camper is off the truck, but there were high winds, I probably would not unload the camper on to the ground since I have 11.5K lb truck sitting under my camper with it anchored at all four corners. The first generation of tankless water heaters were not very reliable and had a bad reputation for failures. People also complain that more water needs to be run through them before hot water is deliver to your faucet, so they are not as water efficient. The ones I have seen are exclusively LPG, so you must have propane to get hot water. On the other hand, I see many more camper using these now and have not heard about exponential rises in failures. They are more efficient at heating water than maintaining a tank of hot water plus you can have an endless supply of hot when you are on hook ups. I have the dual element LPG/electric tank in mine. With the water flow set at 1/3 volume and both elements running, I can get 15 minute steaming hot showers and not run out of hot. Recycle time between showers is also fast with both elements running, but for this type of indulgence you need a large water source, a place to discharge it and electric to run the second element. When we go to a campground with hook ups, my camper is switched to 100% electric and I only fire off the LPG water heater for those long showers or the LPG furnace if the electric fireplace cannot keep up with the cold (electric good for about 20 degrees Fahrenheit external temperatures).
Bedlam 10/22/20 11:48am Truck Campers
RE: next after Upper Stableloads? Jittery ride on rough pavement

If you look at your upper overload spring, it is progressive. One side of the spring will contact the bumper pad before the other. As a test, remove the StableLoads on the side where the spring touches them first and put your stock pads back in place. This will reduce the preload on the upper spring and make the ride more compliant. The ride will be softer, but you need to make sure the truck still sits level with only half of the preload applied.
Bedlam 10/22/20 09:20am Truck Campers
RE: Any experience with a gas fire pit?

We have had the Little Red fire for 15 years now. The logs are beginning to fall apart from the all the travel and nights burning, but it is still burning a flame and we have had not logs explode even if kept out outside (under cover) on rainy days soaking in the humidity. Although a wood fire is nicer than LPG, the ease of having a fire anywhere has made me too lazy to even bring wood with me where there are no restrictions.
Bedlam 10/22/20 09:11am Truck Campers
RE: Purchasing New Host Everest 11.6, Help Please

The ones complaining about using the slides may have Schwintek mechanisms. A couple of weeks ago we saw a new Lance and the slide takes two to three times longer verses the Powergear mechanism used in Host. It was one of the factors why we chose our brand over others. In one minute, I can easily have all three slides and the stairs extended (less if I am in hurry). I do not know of any current Host layout that does not require opening the slide at least little to gain access. There are other manufacturers that have more friendly layouts allowing for use with the slide in, but all of them have a less amount of expanded room because they are single slide models.
Bedlam 10/22/20 09:03am Truck Campers
RE: What are the top 5 advantages of a TC?

Everyone has their reasons for choosing a particular RV. Here is why we are on our second TC: 1. Shortest RV with the highest tow capacity 2. 4WD with sufficient chassis clearance for unimproved and dispersed camping 3. Ability to bring along towed items or leave them behind based on the trip 4. Ability to upgrade tow vehicle, living quarters or garage separately 5. Ability to split living quarters from the truck if smaller/shorter vehicle is required
Bedlam 10/21/20 10:02am Truck Campers
RE: Colors of trucks!

Interesting discussion on exterior colors, but what about interior colors. Why are soooooo many black? Black!!! The hottest, and arguably most difficult to keep clean (actually clean -- not just looking clean). Give me a light color interior any day of the week. So much cooler, so much easier on the eyes, and unless you're transporting a work crew, as easy to keep clean as any other color. Three gray and one tan interior for me.
Bedlam 10/17/20 09:29pm Tow Vehicles
RE: Ford 6L diesel in the news again

I am another happy 6.0 PSD owner. 10 years and over 125k miles when I sold it to get a larger truck. Not all were bad, but the ones that failed were expensive to fix. My Ford dealers were much better than my Ram dealers - I have little trust in FCA and double check all their work even though I am happy with the truck.
Bedlam 10/17/20 09:12pm Tow Vehicles
RE: Colors of trucks!

Brown '82, black '89, red '05 and back to brown on my '15.
Bedlam 10/17/20 05:32pm Tow Vehicles
RE: Best/worst reviews no help

I would suggest looking at the car trailers with living quarters for better quality construction. The components will be the same, but the construction will be better.
Bedlam 10/17/20 05:00pm Toy Haulers
RE: Solution to Trash Left Behind!

Thanks to some political posts that were removed, this thread is now closed. Please keep on topic and out of politics.
Bedlam 10/01/20 03:44pm Truck Campers
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