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RE: Another new generator ban bill in legislation in
There is already multible threads on this.
The ban against small generators IS NOT going into effect until the technology makes zero emmission generators feasible. The law is about reducing "low hanging fruit" IC engine small equipment use such as personal use leaf blowers and lawn mowers, and encouraging new technology for the rest. No equipment will be banned until the feasibility and technology is sufficient for the usage.
You have more faith in the California government being reasonable than I do.
It states it right in the law. No belief required.
Again, you have more faith in the California government being reasonable than I do.
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Bobbo
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12/06/21 08:04am |
General RVing Issues
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RE: Another new generator ban bill in legislation in
There is already multible threads on this.
The ban against small generators IS NOT going into effect until the technology makes zero emmission generators feasible. The law is about reducing "low hanging fruit" IC engine small equipment use such as personal use leaf blowers and lawn mowers, and encouraging new technology for the rest. No equipment will be banned until the feasibility and technology is sufficient for the usage.
You have more faith in the California government being reasonable than I do.
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Bobbo
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12/05/21 07:41pm |
General RVing Issues
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RE: Automatic Transfer Switch
I don't have an onboard Generator.
I will be transferring between shore power and the Inverter.
I assume the output of your transfer switch will go into your 30A electrical panel, right?
If so, that means when you switch over to your 2000W inverter, it will be powering ALL the circuits, including your AC & water heater.
I hope you have a large battery bank.
He doesn't have to turn the AC on. He can set water heater (and refrigerator) to propane. He has already said he will turn off the breaker to the converter/charger. What he is doing is imminently feasible.
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Bobbo
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12/05/21 08:02am |
Tech Issues
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RE: Automatic Transfer Switch
don't know if thats miswired or just the way the person wants it set up.
What is the difference? If it is wired the reverse of what the instructions called for, it doesn't matter WHY it was wired in reverse.
I don't understand why you would want your generator to take over from your shore power,
So you can exercise your generator under load without having to go out and unplug from the pedestal. A bad idea, but it is done.
but I dont know anyone with generators either. every Transfer switch I have seen is a set up to supply power from an inverter or from shore power and you need to stack another to add a input from genny or shore power that gets sent to a second one that choses between one of thoes and the inverter, unless there making a three input that I haven't seen yet.
He is not wanting an ATS for inverter/shore AND an ATS for genny/the other pair. Generators were brought into this conversation because that is how an ATS is labeled. He wants a single ATS that switches between an inverter and shore power.
but for me I would want the shore power to be the ultimate pripority, then the genny, if neither one of thoes is hooked up then the second ATS will automaticly pick the inverter. now this could all be me just not knowing the reason why you would want a generator to have priority but I dont see a reason for it off the hand.
Then feel free to wire it reversed from the instructions. It is not necessary to follow the industry standard. No harm will be done. And, again, it is not two ATS's. It is a single ATS. In his case it is inverter/shore power. However the instructions will reference generator/shore power. He just has to replace the term "generator" with "inverter" while he is installing it.
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Bobbo
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12/04/21 08:09pm |
Tech Issues
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RE: Automatic Transfer Switch
The ATS has two inputs normally marked LINE and GENERATOR
Two types of ATS One is a relay race (Whatever is first is only) But I doubt that's how yours works... More likely GENERATOR controls it.
If there is power on the GENERATOR input. than that is used.
NOTE: DO NOT SWITCH UNDER LOAD
Turn off all loads before plugging in or turn off main breaker so there is no 120 volt load when you plug in.
I have to disagree. Most likely if there is power on the line then it is used. When line power is not there then it will switch to the Gen position. There should be instructions with the switch that will tell you how it works.
I have to agree with wa8yxm. I have never seen one with LINE priority that wasn't mis-wired. Every one that I have ever seen, wired as the instructions call for, when the generator starts, the ATS switches to it regardless of what the shore power line has.
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Bobbo
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12/04/21 07:39am |
Tech Issues
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RE: 12v outlets
Our 25b came with only 2 traditional 12v outlets in the coach. These are for the tv’s. It has usb outlets though. One over the rear bed and one at the dinette.
My Airstream came with plenty of USB outlets, and precisely ZERO of the 12v outlets. I have added 2 of them, myself. I put one in the panel under my bed to plug in my CPAP machine. There was an unused pair of 12v wires there, so I used them. (They must have been there for other options.) I also put one under the dinette to plug in my laptop charger, or anything else. There were no spare 12v wires there, but there had been a sub-woofer there with 12v power. (It is now in the top of my closet at home for re-installation if I ever sell the trailer. Removing it tripled the storage space I had in that compartment, and we never listen to music.) I tapped into that circuit.
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Bobbo
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12/01/21 06:21pm |
Do It Yourself Modifications and Upgrades (DIY)
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RE: Cause and effect?
I am not convinced the backflow preventer did anything. It still sounds to me like the high flow shutoff kicked in. Maybe the backflow preventer restricts the propane flow just enough to keep that from happening. My system works just fine with 2 pigtails without backflow preventers. I installed them early this past summer when my two pigtails started leaking propane.
Thanks for the follow up. I still don't understand why the automatic changeover valve would not prevent propane from flowing from one tank to the other though. :h
If the auto-changeover regulator let both tanks connect to each other, it would draw down both tanks at the same time rather than let one tank run dry, then switch over to the second.
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Bobbo
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12/01/21 07:31am |
General RVing Issues
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RE: Trouble finding alcohol free RV antifreeze this season?
The alcohol-based stuff has two things I would like to avoid. First is it is flammable. Second is that alcohol is harder on rubber seals (like in the dump valves).
And for others that have asked, I'm talking about winterizing the fresh water system.
And thanks for the West Marine suggestion. I have a couple boat places I can try.
While I, personally, disagree with both of those assertions, I respect your right to believe them. Do a search for antifreeze with propylene glycol. (Personally, now I have an air compressor and just blow out the lines. However, I used the pink stuff for 10 years without problems, and without checking which kind I bought.)
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Bobbo
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12/01/21 07:27am |
General RVing Issues
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RE: Half ton towing
The micro light 25fkbs has caught my eye. 7,800 pounds gvwr on it
So I guess the estimate is 780 pound tongue + WDH = 880
The amount of weight on the tongue is 10% to 15%. The 10% number is, in my opinion, light. To prevent sway, you should try to get closer to the 15% number. With a 7800 pound GVWR, I would recommend assuming a tongue weight north of 1000 pounds. Plus the WDH, of course.
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Bobbo
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12/01/21 07:18am |
Travel Trailers
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RE: Trouble finding alcohol free RV antifreeze this season?
Ummm, why do you want it to be alcohol free? Not trying to start something, I really want to know the rationale.
All you are trying to do is get the water out of the system. The pink stuff with alcohol will do that. Once the water is out, you can safely drain the pink stuff out too. It doesn't have to remain in the system. The water is gone.
i thought the 'pink stuff' was vegetable based. ???
The RV antifreeze is either ethanol based or propylene glycol based. (Note that there is NO ethylene glycol in it. That is in car antifreeze and is deadly.) I am assuming that the OP is talking about avoiding the ethanol based stuff. However, technically, propylene glycol, also, is an alcohol.
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Bobbo
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11/30/21 07:55pm |
General RVing Issues
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RE: Generators: Cummins 4500 vs Westinghouse vs. ?????
If you are only looking to run 1 air conditioner, this is the one I have. Should be no problem running the micro and air conditioner at the same time. Obviously, if you need to run both air conditioners, you're going to need two. (You'll also need the adapter for 30 amp to feed 2 - 50 amp.) Clicky
108 pounds? Not at my age.
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Bobbo
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11/29/21 07:24pm |
General RVing Issues
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RE: Cause and effect?
Total coincidence. When my hoses (plural) failed, I replaced them both with the same hose you bought, without check valves. The system works just like it did before. No difference.
The regulator keeps the propane from flowing between the tanks.
My guess is that either the high flow cut-off activated, or you didn't have the ACME fitting quite tight enough to open the valve.
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Bobbo
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11/26/21 08:04pm |
General RVing Issues
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RE: Do I need my WD bars just to move in the driveway?
I'm going to have to disagree with you on most every thing you said. Unloading the front axle WILL induce sway. No question. That is what the WDH fixes. I do agree about the tongue weight.
I have decided that Terryallan is a troll. No one can be that wrong that consistently in the face of people who actually know the subject. He is doing this intentionally. We should just ignore him. All future responses to him on this topic should just be "Troll Alert."
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Bobbo
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11/26/21 07:58pm |
Travel Trailers
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RE: Converting Honda generator to propane
Ummmm, Red31 is correct. With a 20# propane tank, that 20# IS 80% of the tank's capacity. The tanks are marketed with what they can be filled with.
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Bobbo
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11/26/21 06:34am |
Tech Issues
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RE: Do I need my WD bars just to move in the driveway?
And that's your opinion. A WDH . . . prevents sway. A TT that has a properly setup WDH will not sway, even without sway control. Sway control is only for those emergency events when you induce sway by dodging a road hazard, or accident. Sway control is not needed in normal driving.
However. A driver must take the time to setup the WDH properly.
This is not true. (I omitted the part that IS true, about returning weight to the steering axle.) Sway in a trailer is an oscillation of the trailer about the tow ball. It is dependent totally on the trailer's balance and vehicle speed. A WDH that has no sway control built in has absolutely no effect on trailer sway.
Now, a WDH may, and only may, help the tow vehicle resist the sway of the trailer, making it easier for you to maintain control, but it does nothing to prevent or stop the trailer from swaying. Again, if the WDH does not have sway control built in.
A properly setup WDH will prevent sway by returning steering control to the steering axle. A trailer with a properly adjusted WDH will not sway. With out the WDH the steering on the truck is too free, and will induce sway. Just as loading the truck with sand or gravel all behind the rear axle makes it hard to control the truck. the tongue weight does the same thing. And having the 5th wheel on a 18 wheeler slide too far back will also cause the tractor to move around.
Truth. You don't have to believe me. But experience towing all those vehicles tells me different. Just hook up with a 800lb tongue weight, and go down the road, and see how well the truck drives. Then hook up the WDH. See if you can tell any difference. The WDh makes all the difference.
Trailer sway has nothing to do with the steering axle. You are thinking of understeer and oversteer. Trailer sway is an oscillation of the trailer on the tow ball. Notice that the front axle is not involved. At all. Now, with improper weight on the steering axle, trailer sway is MUCH more likely to affect the tow vehicle, but the sway can be there anyway.
While you are correct that an unloaded front axle can induce sway due to poor tow vehicle control, sway is much more likely to be induced by other factors (improper trailer loading and speed primarily) even with a properly loaded front axle.
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Bobbo
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11/26/21 06:21am |
Travel Trailers
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RE: Converting Honda generator to propane
Some places that swap 20# LP tanks, don't fill them to 20#.
Agreed. All of the places that I know of sell you 15# of propane. Read the label on the propane bottle. It will say.
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Bobbo
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11/24/21 06:37pm |
Tech Issues
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RE: Do I need my WD bars just to move in the driveway?
And that's your opinion. A WDH . . . prevents sway. A TT that has a properly setup WDH will not sway, even without sway control. Sway control is only for those emergency events when you induce sway by dodging a road hazard, or accident. Sway control is not needed in normal driving.
However. A driver must take the time to setup the WDH properly.
This is not true. (I omitted the part that IS true, about returning weight to the steering axle.) Sway in a trailer is an oscillation of the trailer about the tow ball. It is dependent totally on the trailer's balance and vehicle speed. A WDH that has no sway control built in has absolutely no effect on trailer sway.
Now, a WDH may, and only may, help the tow vehicle resist the sway of the trailer, making it easier for you to maintain control, but it does nothing to prevent or stop the trailer from swaying. Again, if the WDH does not have sway control built in.
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Bobbo
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11/23/21 06:10pm |
Travel Trailers
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RE: Onan microquiet 4000 cranking issue
Anyone had this issue with there Onan generator. When you hold down the start button whether it’s inside the house or the one on the generator, it cranks for a split second and then stops and then cranks again and then stops. Most of the time it will start after priming but I can’t pinpoint why it’s doing this. I’ve replaced the solenoid, the starter, and checked all my wiring. This form won’t let me upload a video but here’s a link to my YouTube channel of me trying to start the generator. https://youtu.be/Za5ONdKySrIhttps://youtu.be/Za5ONdKySrI
Rangoon's link
New members can't post links till they hit so many posts. I don't remember the number.
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Bobbo
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11/21/21 06:51am |
Tech Issues
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RE: bypassing the battery
The battery has NOTHING, whatsoever, to do with the 120v wall outlets.
Removing the battery and hooking the positive and negative wires together WILL give the converter/charger a direct short and blow the fuses. Hopefully, that is all it will do. If you are lucky.
Removing the battery, and NOT hooking the positive and negative wires together, is OK, maybe. (Be sure the positive wire is isolated and not touching ANYTHING.) It depends on which converter/charger you have. Some of them require a battery in the circuit, and some do not.
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Bobbo
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11/20/21 06:10pm |
Travel Trailers
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RE: Contradictions with EV’s
If you can get past all the environmental and political junk..... EVs are fun to drive.
Admittedly, I’ve never driven one (but would love to!), but after once having gotten the opportunity to drive a diesel / traction motor locomotive (a switch engine, with over 1.25 million pounds in tow!!), the traction motor torque was incredible (and no transmission!).
I believe EV’s must be truly outstanding to drive, and that ultimately EV’s should stand alone on their own unfettered and fact-based merits…It’s in this light that I restrict my own criticisms to taxpayer funded subsidies (i.e. narrative-based wealth redistribution schemes), and ‘assertions’ surrounding a ‘net’ reduction in carbon…JMHO
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It is not so much the subsidies that I detest. We have been subsidizing different things for decades. Subsidizing the Covid vaccines GREATLY shortened the development time, as an example. The laws and executive orders mandating the switch by a specific date are what I rail against. Make the EVs a better option than the ICE vehicles and let the market decide. Banning new ICE vehicles on a certain date is political theater in its entirety.
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Bobbo
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11/20/21 07:15am |
Tech Issues
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