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Is CG info available from MFG's

I notice most of the TC's I have looked at on the internet post CG(center of gravity) information. I have not been able to locate this info for Class C's on the Mfg web sites. Nor have I seen any info on UVW weight, or weight on front axles or rear axles. Is there a way to find this info before you buy? Or at least a method to estimate the weight distribution? From what I read it is more important on shorter Class C's.
Gjac 09/26/20 04:29pm Class C Motorhomes
RE: Reverse shoulder operation

Bob do you remember how much the ligaments were retracted? The Super Spinaus(one at the top) was retracted 2.5 ins. It was already repaired one in 2003 with 4 molly bolts. Did the have to use a spacer from a cadaver to reattach it?
Gjac 09/26/20 04:17pm RVing with Disabilities and General Health Issues
RE: Costco batteries

I want to thank everyone for their help in this matter. I think I will pay the 10% upcharge and purchase batteries from Sams Club. Probably the same batteries as Costco just different name...go trojan 105 like suggested and done for yrs. I have been hearing the same thing. My Sam's club batteries I bought in 2007 are still good and I think they were Duracell. They were half the price of the Trojan 105's that only lasted 4 years. I think Sam's and Costco change from year to year. There have been more recent reports of Battery Plus 6v GC batteries holding up well, I think they are Duracell.
Gjac 09/26/20 07:40am Public Lands, Boondocking and Dry Camping
RE: 2002 Ford E350 V10 Transmission Fluid

If your old enough you've likely heard that flushing an older transmission can lead to it's demise, had it happen, blew inside of a week. When experiencing discolored fluid, I simply find a return line and let the transmission pump out the old while I'm adding new....turns pink, your done. When a transmission hasn't been neglected a simple filter change and refill has always been effective. Ymmv This is what I do every 30k miles. Drain change fluid in pan and filter use existing OEM gasket(replacement gaskets are rubber and can cause leaks) I dip a white paper towel fresh transmission fluid remove return line pump out old fluid out of TC. Check fluid coming out with paper towel and compare it to new fluid, when it looks the same just top off fluid and you are done.
Gjac 09/26/20 07:14am Tow Vehicles
RE: Reverse shoulder operation

Best of luck to you, and yes, let's pray it can be fixed with minimal effort. Do keep us posted. I saw the MRI and got the Dr's report this week. Two of the rotator ligament's are torn completely. The top one is contracted 2.5 ins so it cannot be stretched back and reattached. Apparently two were old tears more than a year old probably several years old. I did not realize it at the time but each time I used my arm more damage was being done. Bicep mussel is torn and out of position. He said I had a strong deltoid mussel so I can still lift my arm. He recommended still going back to the gym otherwise mussel atrophy would get worse. Just no lifting overhead and no adduction or abduction exercises then wait until the pain gets worse and get the reverse shoulder. Hopefully it gets better. Moral of the story is if you ever have diverticulitis and take Cipro to heal the infection it softens your ligaments, be carful what you lift.
Gjac 09/26/20 05:43am RVing with Disabilities and General Health Issues
RE: 24 ft ClassC MH downsides

Gjac, We have a 2002 Winnebago 24v Class C withe the 158" WB on a E350 chassis. Completely empty, it weighs just under 10,000 pounds. Full of fluids and gear for a long trip, we topped out at 11,400 pounds, just under the GVWR of 11,500. On ALL of our other RV's (truck campers, truck&trailer, diesel pusher, etc) my wife refused to drive. With this Class C, my wife does 2/3's the driving. The Winnie handles like a breeze. The new chassis are supposed to be even better. I would not be concerned about a E350 chassis. Did you need any suspension add on's to make it handle like a breeze? Or did it handle well from the factory?
Gjac 09/18/20 07:25am Class C Motorhomes
RE: Gravity Water Fill

I assume you looked around on the exterior and didn't find a fill hole? If you don't: You could stop by the hardware store and pick up a garden hose end fitting. It would only take a minute or two to put it on, fill up and then 30 seconds to pull it off. Just have the fitting and a screwdriver handy by the front seat when you pull in. How do you by pass the check valve to allow water to flow in? Same way when you use a standard hose at a regular tap. Might be a valve or valves you switch over. I doubt they put in a fresh water tank and there is no way to fill it. You can fill the tank with a garden hose or any hose under pressure. I think what the OP is asking is how can he fill it by a jug of water when his MH did not come with a gravity fill line. The check valve in the inlet where you screw in your hose needs pressure from a garden hose to open and allow water to come in.
Gjac 09/16/20 08:41pm Class C Motorhomes
RE: Reverse shoulder operation

Glad you are on the mend Bob. Do you know what he actually did to make the repair? I did not realize I torn mine completely off over a year ago that is why they shrunk. Apparently other muscles get stronger and compensate somewhat so I was still able to do pullups and any kind of pulling exercises. I just could not push anything over head or any other pushing exercises. Then about a month age I fell off my bike in soft sand and that tore the bicep tendon and pulled it out of joint when I put my arm down to break the fall. I have an appointment next wed to review options. The reverse shoulder seems very extreme that is why I asked here hoping there may be another option. Thanks, yes I am on the mend for sure. I likely could have been further along, but I got lazy with my at home physio and exercise. I was actually very paranoid about re-tearing the muscles off again, so I was extremely careful not to overdo it. Doctor told me that he used something to basically "rivet" them back onto the bone. Not an actual rivet, but something similar in concept. He told me that with the attachment to the bone, it would bond itself naturally over time, which it has done. I was in a sling for 6 weeks with no use whatsoever of my shoulder. I could use my hand a bit at my side but no more. It sounds like your injury is similar to mine, so perhaps the extreme "reverse shoulder" procedure may not be needed. Obviously, I am not a doctor and I am only guessing at that. We are all different. But it sounds like yours was done in a similar fashion. If it is just a case of muscles/tendons being torn off the bone, then the arthroscopic procedure used on me may suit you. Arthroscopic is a small incision where they insert the tools to perform the repair, rather than cutting things wide open. It heals faster too. I have 3 small scars where he went in. My other muscles did indeed compensate, and I was still able to do a lot prior to surgery. I couldn't lift my arm over my head, but I could grab it with my left and drag it up there. Once above my head I could put a drill in my hand and use it, albeit with a lot of pain. Strange thing... I was still working out at the gym after the injury. I refused to accept I was hurt I guess. I was ok pushing / pulling down low, as long as I didn't try extending my arm. With the injury I could still dead lift 245 with a straight bar, 265 with a trap bar. Not bad considering I was 65 when I had things fixed. My muscles were badly atrophied before surgery, as they were torn right off and resting in the contracted position. But the doc was still able to stretch them out enough to reattach to the bone. I was nearly 4 years from the injury date to surgery, so they had lots of time to just sit there doing nothing. I agree with the things Kevin is saying here too, sounds like he is educated in this problem too. You are only a few years older than I am, you said you are active, so am I. I would try for the reattachment process before getting radical about it. Recovery? Well, I have to admit, after surgery I had a dickens of a time. There was no comfort to be found in bed. As soon as I laid down, the aching set in. And it was miserable. Lots of pillows, sleep upright, try a recliner chair, I did it all. I took the meds they gave me once, only once. Opioids, and they put me into a stoned stupor. I did use Advil for the first couple weeks, then decided to tough it out. Drug free body, and I like it that way. Yes I suffered a lot at first. However, after a couple months passed I was able to sleep again with less discomfort. It's a process, you gotta go through some ugly times for the first while. But it does pass. I am now pain free. My shoulder no longer sounds like a bowl of rice crispies when I move it. I am now glad I had it done, wasn't sure at first. The lack of living in pain makes it all worthwhile. I imagine I will be another while before I'm back to normal. I could exercise more.. Yes Bob it seems like a similar injury. The only think different is my Dr said two of the tendon shrunk and could not be pulled back to the original position without the use of a cadaver skin to use as a filler material. The rivets you talked about were probably Ti moly bolts I already have 4 in each shoulder. The original surgeon said he would try to do it arthroscopically but I ended up with 4 in long scars. I guess the MRI helps but they can't really see how bad the damage is until they open you up. I have just been praying that the tendons can be repaired without going to this radical surgery.
Gjac 09/16/20 08:30pm RVing with Disabilities and General Health Issues
RE: Reverse shoulder operation

Gary, I understand how you feel about the reverse shoulder surgery. It sounds extreme to me as well, which is why I haven’t gone that route yet. My doc also feels I should hold off as long as possible, because there’s the possibility that if it’s done too soon you could actually wear out the new parts and need a second replacement 15 or so years down the road. There are four rotator cuff muscles, and it’s not uncommon at all for someone (males especially) to tear or totally separate the two smallest ones by the time you’re in your mid-forties. That’s what I did in both shoulders, and just thought it was normal “getting old” aches and pains. Then moving some heavy equipment I started tearing my right deltoid away from its attachment point at the shoulder. That didn’t hurt too much until the muscle started ripping down the middle, and I lost use of my upper arm. During surgery to fix the tear, the doc also found that the bicep long-head tendon was damaged to the point where it had to be cut loose and not reattached (bicep tenotomy vs. tenodesis where it’s reattached to the upper arm bone), so my right bicep looks funny now. My upper arm was immobile long enough that all the arm and shoulder muscles associated with it atrophied. Getting them working again took several months, and the 24x7 pain didn’t stop for almost two years. Today like I said, I have 90-95% range of motion, maybe only about half of the upper arm and shoulder strength, and similarly diminished endurance with that arm. Working above shoulder height is difficult, but I can do it if it’s for a short duration. It’s not pain free, but it’s manageable without Rx drugs, and thank goodness it’s no longer 24x7. So, you CAN live without some of your rotator cuff muscles, half your bicep disconnected, and a repaired deltoid. But I would never advise anyone which way to go on this. The wisest thing to do would probably be to get a second and maybe even a third opinion. Your age will likely play a big part in what you decide. :):) Thanks for sharing your experience Kevin. I am 73 but fairly active. I can live with the pain I have had knee arthritis since 52 and was very painful at first, and now no longer notice it except from getting off of a chair. I guess you get used to the pain. What I worry about is further tearing out my bicep mussel or doing some other damage. I know what you mean about rehab it took me 1&1/2 years to rehab each rotator cuff repair.
Gjac 09/16/20 03:04pm RVing with Disabilities and General Health Issues
RE: Reverse shoulder operation

Glad you are on the mend Bob. Do you know what he actually did to make the repair? I did not realize I torn mine completely off over a year ago that is why they shrunk. Apparently other muscles get stronger and compensate somewhat so I was still able to do pullups and any kind of pulling exercises. I just could not push anything over head or any other pushing exercises. Then about a month age I fell off my bike in soft sand and that tore the bicep tendon and pulled it out of joint when I put my arm down to break the fall. I have an appointment next wed to review options. The reverse shoulder seems very extreme that is why I asked here hoping there may be another option.
Gjac 09/16/20 09:50am RVing with Disabilities and General Health Issues
RE: Gravity Water Fill

I assume you looked around on the exterior and didn't find a fill hole? If you don't: You could stop by the hardware store and pick up a garden hose end fitting. It would only take a minute or two to put it on, fill up and then 30 seconds to pull it off. Just have the fitting and a screwdriver handy by the front seat when you pull in. How do you by pass the check valve to allow water to flow in?
Gjac 09/16/20 08:52am Class C Motorhomes
RE: Gravity Water Fill

Mine does not have a gravity fill either so I just use one of my over flow tubes from the FW tank to add water using my solar shower bag.
Gjac 09/16/20 08:50am Class C Motorhomes
RE: Ford F53 460 powered fan clutch options?

Glad to hear you solved the problem and letting us know.
Gjac 09/16/20 08:27am Class A Motorhomes
RE: Reverse shoulder operation

Kevin explained the procedure very well. I had rotator cup surgery in 2003 with 4 Titanium moly bolts reattaching the top part of the cuff. Since then 3 ligaments were completely torn and retracted. In addition my bicep tendon is partially torn and pulled out of position. I asked about putting a spacer in for the retracted tendons and the Dr said it is possible but if the tissue is too soft it will only tear out again. They use thick skin from a cadaver for this spacer. So he was suggesting a reverse shoulder as a safer alternative. I guess it is a fairly new procedure within the last 10 years.
Gjac 09/15/20 08:51pm RVing with Disabilities and General Health Issues
RE: 24 ft ClassC MH downsides

I very much doubt the "economy" tune gets better mileage at equal power outputs and RPMs. The "premium" tune just lets the engine produce more power (and of course also consume more fuel) when pushed hard, and possibly alters the shift points to favor higher gears more. You won't get 12 mpg with a typical class C motorhome at highway speeds with any gas engine, at least not without a rather radical redesign of the body to improve aerodynamics (which will necessarily also reduce interior space for a given length). It would be nice, I agree. Drew that was RV hyperbole, to make a point. I don't know how to make those smiley faces that some on here make.
Gjac 09/14/20 09:07pm Class C Motorhomes
Reverse shoulder operation

Have any of you guys had this procedure, if so how did it turn out? How long was the recovery?
Gjac 09/14/20 04:06pm RVing with Disabilities and General Health Issues
RE: Battery observations

My BD/Vector 1093 mostly just throws F codes and serves mostly as a pricy paper weight. Thankfully I have several other chargers that can sometimes fool the BD out of it’s predictable slumber... 3 tons It will not charge a completely dead battery, charge with a cheap charger first. I found this out several years ago when a repair shop in Mt. had my MH for 4 months and let the battery run down. When I flew back in Nov the battery was dead and partially frozen and the B&D would not charge it but after an hr or so with the Magnatech charger at 13.2v and 5 amps it worked fine.
Gjac 09/14/20 08:51am Tech Issues
RE: Atwood water heater won't stay on.

Attwood has a good troubleshooting guide on line and tell you how to test the board. If it is not a potted board I would just remove it and look at the backside and see if there are any burned areas on the solder tracks or any burned components. 2017 is fairly new, but boards do fail howeverI would remove and clean all connections first.
Gjac 09/14/20 05:57am Tech Issues
RE: 24 ft ClassC MH downsides

With the tuning on modern engines being so much under electronic control, wouldn't it be super nice if there could be a switch on the dash to flip between "economy tune" and "premium tune"? What a wow that would be!!. 50 more HP out west climbing hills would be nice and getting 12 mpg with the detune for the rest of the trip would be nicer.
Gjac 09/14/20 05:46am Class C Motorhomes
RE: 24 ft ClassC MH downsides

I learned a lot from this thread thanks for sharing your experiences. I just compared the 450 stripped chassis to the 350 stripped chassis and could find no difference for 2020/2021 in the Ford web site. From previous posts older versions had some major differences. One thing I noticed was two 7.3 engs options, one was a premium version with 350 HP the other was an economy version at 300 HP. I think 300 HP is plenty for a 24ft MH. Has anyone found and MPG difference between the two?
Gjac 09/13/20 10:25am Class C Motorhomes
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