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RE: ongoing generator issue

Found the problem and gen is fixed. Here is an F.Y.I. - for anyone's future reference: The Yamaha EF6300isde has a switch that either supplies full current/amps to the 110, twenty amp outlets and the 110 thirty amp outlet when in 120 only mode. It "splits" power, when it is moved to the 120/240 mode, between those outlets and the 240 volt outlet. The switch was in 120 mode only however some internal corrosion did not allow it to actually switch over. The 110 volt outlets and the 30 amp outlet were only producing about 22 amps. Not enough to start A/C thus the gen went into default. Another switch was not readily available so I took out the one in the gen, cleaned and refurbished the switch, tested it, and got constant continuity on either pole. I then re-installed the switch and A/C started up with no problem. In addition, with A/C compressor on, I was able to run microwave and a coffee pot at the same time and still had a little room to spare. With switch operating correctly in the 120 only mode the 20 and 30 amp outlets are capable of producing about 45.8 continuous amps and 52.5 start up amps. What a learning experience for me. I hope this explanation will assist someone else in the future. Rock N Roll
Glenn And Kitty 06/23/20 01:10pm Tech Issues
RE: ongoing generator issue

Another update: I purchased a replacement capacitor and installed it. No help. Ran gen at full throttle, plug in RV, nothing else on in RV (hot water heater does run on electric or gas but it is off completely). Turn on A/C, fan comes on, no change in gen or very slight, compressor kicks on, gen revs up and loses all power, gen motor then slow down to normal full throttle mode but is not generating any power. I unplug RV from gen, shut gen down for about 30 seconds, start gen back up, and it is generating power again. I plugged my RV back into 30 amp shore power and A/C works fine. I left the new capacitor on A/C and will keep the old one as a spare. Obviously it is not the A/C capacitor and I'm back to square one. I guess my two options are one: wait for Micro Air Easy Start 364 to come in and try that or two: take gen back to repair shop and have it tested some more. Any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated
Glenn And Kitty 06/22/20 11:53am Tech Issues
RE: ongoing generator issue

Reply to questions: My rig is 30 AMP A/C unit is a Dometic Brisk II - 13,500 BTU I have had the shore power 30 amp beaker, at some campgrounds, trip on rare occasion when I first turned on A/C unit. I had to turn off all switches and A/C in my RV then go out and reset campground breaker. That would only happen once per place I stayed that it did that and I would not experience any more problems while staying at that particular spot. This has only happen maybe three times in the last eight to ten outings. I had not used my generator with this RV until recently. It does sound like it is a capacitor issue.
Glenn And Kitty 06/22/20 08:19am Tech Issues
RE: ongoing generator issue

Follow up I did a lot of research online and most likely what I need is the Mico Air Easy Start kit that Seattie Steve recommended. That will solve the big draw and voltage drop situation. That voltage drop is obviously what is causing my gen to fail. If I prevent that, problem solved. Thanks to all for the input Glenn
Glenn And Kitty 06/21/20 11:59pm Tech Issues
RE: ongoing generator issue

I am using the 30 amp twist lock adapter and plugging my RV power cord directly into that. It's not an extension. I have a RPM meter on the gen. It is Tri-fuel but I haven't used propane to test if that will make a difference. I think the gen is running where it should be. I just read about the A/C boost capacitor but it seems like the gen is rated well above what I need for the 13,500 BTU unit I have.,, unless that unit is drawing way more than it should at start up.
Glenn And Kitty 06/21/20 11:01pm Tech Issues
ongoing generator issue

I had some problems with my generator but just had a new control panel and interface installed by a certified dealer. It is now running fine but it trips when my RV A/C compressor kicks on. Gen shop is closed for a few days so maybe I can get some advice here. Please allow me to explain: I have a Yamaha EF6300ISDE gen. Specs say it is rated for 5500 watts and I think the 6300 watts is for surge or start up. Amp rating is 45.8/52.6 amps when running on 120 volts. RV A/C is a 13,500 BTU that should be drawing about 14.5 amps on start up and about 2700 to 2900 watts on start up. Here is the problem: I turn off everything in RV. Start up gen and run full throttle (about 3450 RPM), I go in and turn on A/C. Fan comes on and gen barley does anything. The A/C compressor kicks on, there is a big surge on gen, and I note a large drop in voltage on a meter I have inside RV. Generator continues to run but power trips and no power is being generated. There is zero voltage on RV meter and no lights on Gen. It does not show overload on gen but no power is being generated and motor runs back at 3450 RPMs. I turn off A/C control so there is once again nothing on in RV. I shut down gen for maybe 30 seconds, start it back up and power is restored and available. I repeat turning on A/C, fan comes on (no problem), then compressor comes on, gen surges, and then power trips/fails again. I tried turning gen to Eco mode and same result. I also tried not turning on A/C and turning on microwave and some other electronics. gen surges a bit but power stays on. Gen power only fails when RV A/C compressor comes on. Gen should have more than enough capacity to start/run A/C. I don't have any load testing meters but with gen just coming out of dealer repair shop it should be in top notch condition. Could my single A/C unit, which is on a 2019 Coleman TT, be drawing more than what is considered normal? Even at that it seems that my gen is rated well above what is needed for a 13,500 BTU A/C and probably should be able to run a 15,000 BTU unit. Anyone have any idea what is going on. I'm in Louisiana so altitude is not an issue. It was 90 degrees plus degrees today with high humidity. Could that be an issue? Does anyone think I have an A/C issue for an RV dealer to look at or do I have a gen issue and I should take it back to gen repair shop? Glenn
Glenn And Kitty 06/21/20 09:26pm Tech Issues
RE: Generator - A/C issue

Reply to Chum Lee question: Gen is a Yamaha EF6300ISDE. I believe the peak (surge) watts are 6500 with 5500 watts being the rated watts in normal running range. The gen is about 5 years old but only has 185 hours on it. I also think the A/C unit on my RV is rated at 13500 BTU
Glenn And Kitty 03/13/20 05:31pm Tech Issues
RE: Generator - A/C issue

I agree with phil's question as to why it works in eco mode if it's a hidden usage issue or battery charging operation. I spoke with a Yamaha tech at a dealer and while he was puzzled by the issue and said it was a real head scratched, he also said I should not worry about starting the gen in eco mode. While there is no real exact answer to the default overload when compressor kicks in and gen is in full throttle mode, as long as the A/C works in eco mode my wife will be happy... and you know I'm happy about that. Glenn
Glenn And Kitty 03/13/20 12:21pm Tech Issues
RE: Generator - A/C issue

The gen is rated well above the capacity of the A/C and is evident that it is capable of easily handling the load(s) in eco mode as it only rises to 3050 RPMs from 2650 RPMs and does not go into overload. I don't usually do it so as to ease the load on the gen but, with the gen in eco mode, I have had on the A/C, microwave, coffee pot, and electric water heater all at once. The gen did kick up to full throttle speed (3450 RPMs), but it did not go into overload. If the issue was happening in reverse, that the gen would go into overload when running on eco mode but would handle the A/C compressor kick on in full throttle mode, I would agree with the "hidden" usage idea but since it works fine at the lower eco mode RPM it must be something with the gen advancing when in full throttle mode, even though it should not, that is perhaps causing the overload.
Glenn And Kitty 03/12/20 02:18pm Tech Issues
RE: Generator - A/C issue

I know RPMs cause mu gen has an RPM meter. I may have screwed up and duplicated my post.
Glenn And Kitty 03/12/20 02:10pm Tech Issues
RE: Generator - A/C issue

The gen is rated well above the capacity of the A/C and is evident that it is capable of easily handling the load(s) in eco mode as it only rises to 3050 RPMs from 2650 RPMs and does not go into overload. I don't usually do it so as to ease the load on the gen but, with the gen in eco mode, I have had on the A/C, microwave, coffee pot, and electric water heater all at once. The gen did kick up to full throttle speed (3450 RPMs), but it did not go into overload. If the issue was happening in reverse, that the gen would go into overload when running on eco mode but would handle the A/C compressor kick on in full throttle mode, I would agree with the "hidden" usage idea but since it works fine at the lower eco mode RPM it must be something with the gen advancing when in full throttle mode, even though it should not, that is perhaps causing the overload.
Glenn And Kitty 03/12/20 01:51pm Tech Issues
RE: Generator - A/C issue

If it is OK to start generator in eco mode I would be good with that and that would solve a lot of issues. I have forgotten it was in eco mode and have started the gen with no problem. I always have everything in the RV turned off before I ever start the gen. Even when it's running, I don't use two large draw systems at the same time. Such as, if I'm going to use microwave I turn off A/C. I don't even use electric water heater at same time as A/C. I am confused by the "overload" malfunction when I am in full throttle mode and turn on AC. Follow up: I have now been running gen in eco mode and A/C for several hours. The gen is cycling from 2650 RPMs to 3050 RPMs as the A/C compressor cuts in and out. Everything is working fine but I had to go back and test again. Now I'm really confused: The A/C was running as described and compressor was in off cycle. I switched gen from eco mode to full throttle mode and when A/C compressor came back on, nothing happened. Gen continued to run at full throttle and did not speed up and A/C (and everything in RV) stayed on. Gen did not go into overload. It is very hard to figure this one out ??? I think I have a ghost in either my RV or my gen that is messing with me. Original poster
Glenn And Kitty 03/12/20 12:22pm Tech Issues
RE: Generator - A/C issue

I always turn everything off in the RV before I turn on gen. The only thing I turned on was A/C when the gen would go into overload. Gen start very easy and If it's OK to start the gen in eco mode I'll be good with that.
Glenn And Kitty 03/12/20 09:11am Tech Issues
RE: Generator - A/C issue

I tried several times in all modes. The eco mode was the only one that worked. I would guess I used the eco mode at least five different times over a day or so and the A/C stayed on for several hours. I could hear the generator "stall" and kick up each time the compressor kicked on. It wasn't a fluke that it worked in eco mode.
Glenn And Kitty 03/11/20 07:59pm Tech Issues
Generator - A/C issue

This is kind of long but I need to give all the details: I have a 2019, 2425 Coleman bumper pull RV. I have recently been in some “primitive” camping sites with no services. I have an EF3600ISDE Yamaha generator that is dual fuel (Gasoline or Propane). It is a great unit. Here is my issue and questions: Yesterday it was warm enough to turn on my RV A/C unit. I had the generator running on propane and in full throttle mode not “eco” mode. The A/C fan came on for a minute or so and the generator stayed at 3450 RPM (normal full throttle mode RPM). When the A/C compressor kicked on the generator advanced a few hundred RPMs and then went into “overload” and cut power to RV. The generator cut back the RPMs and kept running at 3450 RPMs but stayed in overload mode. I cut off A/C, shut down generator, and restarted. Generator came back on and was supplying power to RV. I did not have anything else on in RV such as microwave, coffee pot, ect. I tried again to turn on A/C and same result: power to RV was cut and generator in overload mode. Experimenting, I disconnected propane and tried running generator on gasoline. Basic same result. I noted that generator ran at 3450 RPM’s before turning on A/C when on propane or gasoline. During several attempts, some times the A/C would run a few minutes longer when compressor cut on than other times but always the generator would then go into overload mode and cut power to RV. On a whim, I restarted generator and put it in eco mode. It ran at 2650 RPM’s on both gasoline and propane in eco mode, I then cut on A/C and much to my surprise the generator went to 3040 RPM’s and A/C stayed on and power to RV was not cut off. A/C and everything worked fine. When A/C compressor would cut off the generator would cut back to 2650RPMs and when compressor cut on generator would rise to the 3050 RPM range. This was on either propane or gasoline operation. OK so the solution is to just run in eco mode HOWEVER I have a remote start/stop kit installed on the generator and instructions say “only remote start in full throttle mode and not in eco mode (actually any start up, key or remote, is supposed to be in full throttle mode). If I set up the generator in full throttle mode so I can use the remote start and not have to go outside to start the generator I can’t use A/C without going outside and put generator in eco mode. Kind of renders my remote start feature useless. Any ides why generator would go into overload mode when set on full throttle mode? Any ideas how to correct this?
Glenn And Kitty 03/11/20 06:46pm Tech Issues
RE: wireing

Thank you for the replies, info, and confirmation
Glenn And Kitty 01/04/20 07:50am Tech Issues
wireing

My generator is a Troy-Bilt and only has the 120/240 four prong female plug for 30 Amp. There is no switch to select 110 or 220. The 110 outlets on that Troy generator are only 20 Amp so I need to use the 120/240 four prong outlet on that generator but only with 110 volt service to my RV. I wired a four prong plug as follows: bare/ground wire to green screw/slot which is the prong that had the lock part on it. All the other screws were brass so there was no silver screw to attach the white wire to. I put the white wire at the bottom prong, directly across from the ground prong, which was marked “W” by that slot. The other two prongs are marked “X” and “Y”. I attached the black wire to the right side prong as you are facing the plug with the ground on top and the white wire on the bottom. I left the left prong open (no wires attached). I plugged in the cord and ran the generator. With a meter I put one lead on the ground wire and one lead on the black and got 110 volts. I left the lead on the ground and touched the white wire and got zero reading. I then touched the leads to the black and white wires and got a 110 volt reading. Is that correct?????????? Thanking you in advance. Glenn
Glenn And Kitty 01/02/20 10:33pm Tech Issues
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