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RE: Tesla Semi truck unveil & test ride set for Oct 26th !

As an engineer I would like to work for either SpaceX or Tesla simply because more is getting done at those two companies than all the rest put together, at least from my point of view. It is more fun to work where things are happening. As a devoted grandfather, I have other priorities for the rest of my life.
Groover 08/05/22 08:22am Tow Vehicles
RE: New 2024 Ford HD trucks and they aren't electric

I love the way that Farley says the trucks will be all new followed by the reporter saying that it is really just a refresh.
Groover 07/31/22 01:26pm Tow Vehicles
RE: EV's need gas too - Tow with a Tesla?

Europe is now going back to coal, because the have to. Electricity is going to sky rocket beacuse green energy must be backed up with conventional power plants... So on order to have a reliable energy system, we will need to have two systems... The cost of this will be paid for by someone...Look in the mirror to see who will pay. Germany and several other countries are temporarily using coal to conserve natural gas, something that was usually coming from Russia and is now in very short supply. This is very easily confirmed. It has nothing to do with more EVs on the road. lol Compounding their stupidity Germany is still planning to shut down all three remaining nuclear power plants this year unless something has changed very recently. Washington Post on German stupidity The last I heard the Washington Post is a left leaning news source and even they think that Germany is stupid for doing this.
Groover 07/31/22 12:04pm Tow Vehicles
RE: First hand F150 hybrid experience anyone?

I figured that out a while back but it is amazing how many have strong opinions already. I have mostly been trying to explain to some why I am trying to get better info. I really thought that after two years of production someone here would have one.
Groover 07/10/22 03:58pm Tow Vehicles
RE: First hand F150 hybrid experience anyone?

Hi Groover So, what would be a test where someone could test a Hybrid towing a trailer that would be a fair test for the Hybrid but also show how people use there trucks towing a trailer? Outside of stop and go traffic, which is typically for commuter and only occasionally for an RVer that got stuck in traffic. Thanks As I recall TFL trucks did two tests. The first was a 70 mile fuel economy test on essentially level interstate with the cruise control on. So minimal braking and acceleration on this test. The second test was the Ike Gauntlet. Wide open one direction and riding the brakes the other. One battery discharge on the way up followed by one battery charge on the way down. On these tests the weight of the system may do more harm than it's assist returns as good. I rarely find myself going either totally flat for 70 miles or traversing 7 miles of continuous grade. Even the Interstates around here have a hill maybe a mile long followed by a similar downhill that requires braking when pulling a heavy trailer. Granted that a 1.5kwhr battery can only store 2 horsepower hours of power but that is 60hp minutes. Enough to help all the way up and down most of these hills. So it is quite reasonable to ask how much it helps on these hills. How much power does it store while controlling speed going down a hill for a minute, how much less are the brakes used. Then, how much power is returned going up the next hill? Likewise, what benefits does the system return when doing a stop from 60mph and then returning back to 60mph? Does the transmission stay cooler since the hybrid system pulls power out and puts it back in without going through the torque converter? That is not an unusual situation for me when trailer towing. I just want to get some real world feedback for the type of situations where bybrid systems do work well.
Groover 07/10/22 02:05pm Tow Vehicles
RE: First hand F150 hybrid experience anyone?

All of the towing tests that I have seen are designed in a way that avoids taking advantage of the hybrid capabilities but I believe that the way that I do most of my towing I would benefit. I was hoping to get some results from driving similar to mine. I don't think it's designed to "avoid taking advantage of the hybrid capabilities". I think it's designed to mimic typical towing scenarios. Not many people purposely drive in stop & go traffic while towing an RV. Typically, they are getting out of town on the open road where they can just hum along at a steady speed. It just happens that it doesn't favor a hybrid solution. By contrast, if you are buying a commuter car (or truck), it's very typical to wind up in stop & go conditions that favor a hybrid. No secret agenda, just how each vehicle is typically used. I did not say that it was done on purpose, just stated that it was done. I understand that tests are only of value if they are repeatable and the simple test procedure used is easy to repeat. Now that new technology has come along the simple test may not reflect the benefits of that new tech. Also, you have a good point that many campers do long hauls and may not see much benefit from hybrids either. But that is not the way that I use my truck and I have been looking for information more relevant to my use. I did find it a bit appalling that TFL Trucks did trumpet the news that the hybrid did not help their towing fuel economy in their test. Anyone that knows how hybrids work could have told them that in advance. If they wanted to earn my respect they would have devised tests to make use of the hybrid system and compared it with a non-hybrid so that there would have been some relevant information in the article.
Groover 07/06/22 05:38pm Tow Vehicles
RE: First hand F150 hybrid experience anyone?

Not to start any wars here but, isn't this the same argument for the Eco-Boost? I have a friend who gets basically the same mpg I get while towing with my Tundra. It is sort of a wash until you factor in what he gets while not towing. Wowsa, I am glad that I don't have to use my Tundra as a daily driver. Is this the same kind of thing that hybrid owners are experiencing? It's because none of the "cool kids" have hybrids yet. Once the "cool kids" started getting into the EcoBoost, it became acceptable. That said I bet I could get 24 with the hybrid. I regularly get 20 with my 5.3L even running on 7 cylinders. I don't believe that getting the rated milage is nearly as challenging as Edmunds makes it out to be. In the article I referenced they mentioned that they also came up way short with the 2.7EcoBoost. Everyone I know that has one raves about the mileage. My brother beats the EPA numbers most of the time with his.
Groover 07/06/22 08:53am Tow Vehicles
RE: First hand F150 hybrid experience anyone?

I finally found an article about the F150 Powerboost that strayed away from the rigid testing procedures used by TFL and some others. TFL's testing structure basically prohibits the use of use of the hybrid features and I want some feedback on how they affect the towing experience. So here it is: Edmunds long term F150 hybrid test The good: "That battery-derived torque at low speeds, when the engine benefits from it most, is what it's all about. If you are towing a trailer, hauling a heavy payload or drag racing your buddy's Raptor, the F-150 Hybrid's torque is your friend. For that, we are really digging this PowerBoost F-150." The bad, maybe: "A window sticker sets expectations for a vehicle, but now we're finding that the EPA's fuel economy estimates can be just as unrealistic in real life as the MSRP. The EPA rates the F-150 Hybrid (this powertrain is also known as the PowerBoost) at 24 mpg combined (24 city/24 highway). But we aren't getting that in our long-term truck. Not even close. Our average fuel economy over 10,000 miles, six months and 30 fill-ups is a disappointing 19.3 miles per gallon (excluding towing and performance testing). If we averaged 19.3 mpg in any ordinary full-size pickup, we'd be thrilled. But this powertrain is a $4,000-plus line item, and this truck, to date, has hit an average of 24 mpg per tank just twice and 23 mpg twice. Most fills are in the high 18s." My opinion is that most professional vehicle testers have lead feet and as a result get worse than average fuel economy. When you have power ready and willing it takes discipline not use it and suck down the fuel. Back when I purchased my 1991 F250 with the 7.5 engine (460 V8) the test results that I could find only showed 8mpg. I never had fuel economy that low, even for a single trip. The closest I came to that number was when I was carrying a large slide in camper AND towing a 22ft offshore fishing boat. I got 8.2 over 1500 miles while doing that. So, I am a little skeptical of the testers. So keep this part of the statement in mind: "If we averaged 19.3 mpg in any ordinary full-size pickup, we'd be thrilled." The What the Heck?: "We will admit that our pickup's towing-optimized 3.73 axle puts us at a slight disadvantage with respect to achieving the best fuel economy, but the change shouldn't amount to such a deficit." The pickup in their picture is clearly a short bed truck. The 3.73 axle is part of the max payload package which I have not been able to configure on a short bed truck. To get the 3.73 axle I have always had to configure the long bed. Regardless, I don't believe that going from a 3.55 axle to the 3.73 is going to affect fuel economy in a noticeable manner. But adding a foot of bed and 200lbs of frame weight would probably have more impact. Anyway, the bottom line is that it pulled really well and gave better than average fuel economy. Is it worth the extra cost? That might come down to how much you would use the 7.2kw generator feature.
Groover 07/04/22 12:40pm Tow Vehicles
RE: First hand F150 hybrid experience anyone? Terrible mpg's towing. All of the towing tests that I have seen are designed in a way that avoids taking advantage of the hybrid capabilities but I believe that the way that I do most of my towing I would benefit. I was hoping to get some results from driving similar to mine.
Groover 06/09/22 01:02pm Tow Vehicles
RE: thoughts on Ecoboost

Here is a great video on the EcoBoost. The guy does a great job of talking about the good and the problems with this engine. When this guy talks about this being a high performance engine he is a 100% correct. This engine needs to be thought of as pretty much a race engine. As mentioned, race engines need impeccable maintenance. Another thing about this engine and engines like this. They don't have much duty cycle. That's why class 8 diesels have a big CID displacement in them. We can make big power with a little engine but when the weather turns hot and the mountains get steep you need that big mass to displace the heat the engine produces. In short, if you are going to pound on this engine day in and day out up steep mountains in hot weather this engine is not for you IMHO. If you are a weekend warrior and pull a trailer now and then in easy or moderate conditions this might be a great engine for you. The 3.5 EcoBoost came out 11 years ago and there are a bunch of them on the road now but I rarely hear first hand complaints about its reliability. Timing chain stretch on 2014 and earlier seems to be a problem but I don't hear much about that anymore. I just had to have the timing chain replaced for the first time on a 2013 model with 144,000 miles on it and quite a few of those miles were pulling a loaded three horse trailer. Unfortunately, the mechanic my daughter took it to for the timing chains turned out to be incompetent The truck still doesn't run right after 3 weeks of work. The guy even destroyed the running boards while he had the truck. Yesterday he told us that it was in perfect running order and to take it home but it immediately started throwing a variety of error codes and the turbos don't work. We took it away from him and will take it somewhere else to try to get it straightened out. I am over 60 and that is by far the worst performance I have ever seen by a mechanic.
Groover 06/07/22 12:19pm Tow Vehicles
First hand F150 hybrid experience anyone?

Surely someone in this group has purchased and towed with an F150 hybrid by now. If you are one of those people I would love to hear how you think that the hybrid impacts towing.
Groover 06/07/22 12:02pm Tow Vehicles
RE: thoughts on Ecoboost

I have a 2019 Expedition MAX as a secondary tow vehicle for my 7000 pound boat. Towed a very light 17’ fishing boat back from North Dakota a few weeks back. 75 mph with some wind and I was at 9 mpg. There really doesn’t seem to be a huge difference in MPG when towing regardless of weight. That is what I have been telling people for a long time, weight only impacts fuel economy through rolling resistance and lost energy when braking. Rolling resistance is tiny compared with air drag at highway speeds. Braking losses due to increased weight are only important if you are using the brakes, which rarely happens on the highway. On most highways air drag is by far the dominant factor in the fuel economy equation. Fuel consumption rate in gallons/hr due to air drag goes up with the cube of your airspeed. That is basic physics. Stop and go traffic is an entirely different story.
Groover 06/07/22 11:59am Tow Vehicles
RE: LT Tires

I had a Michelin LT235/85 R blow out with no warning in 1998. It was 7 years old at the time and I noticed that several others on the truck were developing blisters on the inner sidewalls. Looking at the tread and outsides the tires still appeared to be in great shape. I have wondered if engine heat made the insides of the tires run hotter and that lead to the blisters. Around 2007 a friend convinced me that Kumho tires were good deals and I put them on several vehicles. I had two blowouts with LT 265/85 R tires on the pickup, and a tread separation on a LT225/75 R on a van. I had a very strange problem on a P series Kumho where the wire belting started coming out the side of the tire. I haven't run any more Kumho tires since then.
Groover 04/12/22 07:54am Tow Vehicles
RE: Protection/Maintenance Packages

Any coatings that harden can have openings where not thoroughly applied or where damaged by road debris. Once those openings are there water can get in, get trapped and accelerate corrosion. Back when vinyl tops were popular I saw lots of rusted out roofs on cars. The same principals apply to the underside of cars as well. Back in 1978 my father ordered a new Chrysler and paid extra to get it undercoated. After driving it home he looked under it and observed that it wasn't undercoated so he took it back to the dealer to get what he paid for. The service manager's response was "I thought that was standard equipment." To which my father responded "I have two complaints. First, I paid extra for a standard feature. Second, I still don't have it." The responses that you get from dealers can be hilarious if you have the patience to put up with them.
Groover 04/12/22 07:38am Tow Vehicles
RE: Tesla Semi truck unveil & test ride set for Oct 26th !

Prices right now are heavily influenced by the supply vs demand issue. I recently read that 82% of new vehicle sales are priced over sticker in spite of factory price increases. In normal times I expect at least a 15% discount. Since Tesla sells at sticker price they go ahead and share the true price before you even leave home while the rest ambush you with it after you get to the dealership. If you prefer that go buy from those guys. Even at the high prices and 60% output increase Tesla is still sold out for months to come. However, when they get caught up I expect to see some big reductions. That is called free market capitalism. What is really going to get a lot of people screaming is the recent increase in the required average fuel economy just a few years out. I expect Tesla to be selling a bunch of carbon credits after that takes effect. I don't like it but that is the way our current management wants things to happen.
Groover 04/03/22 06:54am Tow Vehicles
RE: Tesla Semi truck unveil & test ride set for Oct 26th !

And some people believe everything they're told. :) An open mind is a wonderful thing, just don't have such an open mind your brains fall out. :) I have to wonder how your brain would have handled ICE engines in their infancy, heavier than air aircraft, re-usable rockets or the development of electricity into a life essential. Developing new tech for commercial applications rarely goes as smoothly as the developer hopes. But then, if the developer wasn't optimistic he would just stick with the herd and keep relying on the tech that he was born with.
Groover 03/26/22 08:42am Tow Vehicles
RE: Tesla Semi truck unveil & test ride set for Oct 26th !

Just a reminder, trolls are every bit as obnoxious as fan boys. Especially when it is very obvious that they are going out of their way to annoy others about a subject that they really don't even have an interest in. On a more related topic, there is an electric semi in production now. Nikola has started their production line. Nikola is up and running
Groover 03/25/22 04:01pm Tow Vehicles
RE: Tesla Semi truck unveil & test ride set for Oct 26th !

Meanwhile in Tennessee, GM has started building the Cadillac LYRIQ. In Detroit, GM continues to actually build the Hummer EV super Truck. Nobody needs to just take drone pictures. The plant is done. Vehicles being delivered as announced. No outrageous deposits for years. Just doing what they announced. And on the vernal equinox, GM has shared more detail for the all electric Equinox. Real EVs, that will be built and sold as announced.So far everything out of GM has sold at low volume including the Volt and Bolt. I expect LYRIC and HUMMER to be similar. GM still has not figured out an EV platform that actually sells at volume. Maybe the Equinox? Model Y already sells better than the ICE version. Good luck. Tesla publicly stated goal is to make at least 1,500,000 vehicles in 2022, I expect it to be closer to 2 million. GM is to make 25,000 of the Lyric and to make 21,000 Hummers for a grand total of 46,000 EVs. I wish them success. Tesla had a 30% profit margin in their products in 2021, It will be interesting to see what GM's margin is on their new products.
Groover 03/23/22 01:32pm Tow Vehicles
RE: Oil changes with synthetic

The bottom line is that oil will essentially last forever unless it gets contaminated or overheated. I sincerely doubt that he is overheating it. The main source of contamination is cold starts that allow more blowby of unburned fuel and exhaust gases which contain carbon and water. The problem is compounded if you don't get the engine hot enough to boil out the water. If the car sits in a garage without being driven the oil will last a very long time. Just watch the short trips and temperature cycling. I have noticed that time spent on a dealer lot does not seem to count towards oil changes. At least that is what the dealer told me when I bought a truck that had been on the lot for 7 months.
Groover 03/22/22 08:02am Tow Vehicles
RE: Tesla Semi truck unveil & test ride set for Oct 26th !

I just saw an article about Home Depot adding 150 NEW distribution centers. I would bet that the vast majority of their runs could easily be made with battery powered trucks. Since chargers can be installed at both ends battery powered trucks could have less downtime than petroleum powered ones. I would like to know how many trucks Home Depot has making these runs but it sounds like they could put thousands of electric semi's to work.
Groover 03/21/22 08:21am Tow Vehicles
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