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RE: Rv length

Length is the measurement from the front of the rig to the back of the rig. Not what the manufacturer says. If you have a tray on the back bumper of a 5er or TT, measure to the outside of that tray. 5ers it is to the front of the rig, not the hitch point. Having said that, if you are close, check with them and explain. Length has a completely different meaning in National Parks, federal parks and state parks. Some places such as Yosemite, a length restriction might be because of the turns in the road to get to the site, or obstruction on either side of the site which limit your ability to turn the tow vehicle to get the rig into the site. Frequently you will see lengths quoted as longer motorhomes allowed than trailers, for that reason.
PawPaw_n_Gram 10/27/20 08:27pm RV Parks, Campgrounds and Attractions
RE: Thousand Trails

I sold a TT membership a few years ago through Campground Membership Outlet. Might want to give them a try. Campground Membership Outlet Good luck. We bought one through them and are happy satisfied customers. When we wanted to add RPI, I called them, and they said the easiest, cheapest for us was to go through TT. I like a business that will tell me the truth, even if it means going to someone else for the purchase.
PawPaw_n_Gram 10/27/20 02:18pm RV Parks, Campgrounds and Attractions
RE: Is KM Resorts for real?

I believe they only own resorts in the state of Washington. Their 'other resorts' are in the RPI, Coast to Coast or Resorts of Distinction networks which are mainly reciprocal programs. We are happy Thousand Trails members, with a resale used membership that cost us close to $3,000. Been using it for several years now. We are full-timers, with TT resorts near our kids and family members from Connecticut to Florida to Texas to Oregon. This summer we stayed in a TT resort in Arizona and affiliated Trails Connection resorts in Arizona. Visiting a granddaughter who lives with her mother, and some cousins of mine. We spent over half of each year in those campgrounds. So it pays for us very well. We also know some folks who are unhappy with TT. The campgrounds are not the very best. If you have the budget, you can find great top quality full hook commercial resorts almost anywhere a membership campground is located. We also have the RPI membership, which gives us access to almost all KM Resorts, Sunrise Resorts, Colorado River Adventures and others. Yes, the time share analogy is appropriate. But I can cancel my membership if I wish and walk away. Have to do it a certain way. Thousands of people are happy with them, thousands are not. If you can visit some of the KM Resorts without paying additional money, I urge you to do so. Ignore the sales pitch. Decide if that type camping is for you. Might also look at some of the others. There are Facebook groups for all. Now, you will hear many more complaints than positive reviews. Complainers seem to be more vocal. I would never recommend buying from the company, if a used membership can be purchased. Rather than researching and buying from an individual, I recommend you talk to a broker about a resort program. We used Camping Membership Outlet their advice and explaining some things about Thousand Trails was essential for us to understand the basics. TT is probably the most complex program, partially because it has been around for almost 50 years, and has had dozens of different memberships, programs and such. We needed a national program. You might need something less, and RPI and Coast to Coast might be a cheaper way to try the system and see what the different companies have to offer.
PawPaw_n_Gram 10/27/20 02:15pm RV Parks, Campgrounds and Attractions
RE: Nascar Follies

Sitting about 100 miles east of the track, it looks hopeful for today. (Tue) Scheduled start if noon CDT/ 1 EDT, but if weather clears enough I would not be surprised if it starts early. And they will be racing to the 'halfway' point. IMHO NASCAR will throw the checkered flag the minute any moisture falls after the point of a legal race is passed.
PawPaw_n_Gram 10/27/20 08:51am Around the Campfire
RE: question about freezing temps

My experience is that the ball valves for the water heater bypass are the most critical. Unless you have constant pressure in your water lines from the pump being on, or connected to outside water pressure, there is enough air space in the line for light freeze conditions most of the time. Of course if you have a constant heat source that is a great help. The ball valves trap a bit of water. They are a very hard plastic which has zero flexability. They hold a bit more than an ounce of water which can freeze quickly. What causes damage is not the water freezing - it is the EXPANSION of water turning to ICE. RV 'antifreeze' gets slushy at 30 degrees, freezes solid near 10 degrees. But it does not expand when it freezes. Modern PEX used in RV's can take a little expansion. It is the joints, fittings and things like the ball valves that cannot take the pressure of expansion.
PawPaw_n_Gram 10/27/20 08:44am General RVing Issues
RE: Albuquerque to Tallahassee

Take 82 after Wichita Falls (actually at Henrietta) and avoid the DFW area. x2 Taking US-69 south at Bells all the way to I-20 or US-82 to Texarkana then I-49 to I-220 on the north side of Shreveport are both equally good routes. Re- Going through Jackson MS on I-20/US-49 or I-10/I-12 through Baton Rouge I-20 across north LA is a rougher road than I-49 to Lafayette and I-10/I-12 through Baton Rouge across the north side of Lake Pontchartrain. It is a trade off because Baton Rouge can be a choke point if there is traffic. A city where you must avoid weekday rush hour. US-49/98 is the preferred route of my first cousin. I haven't personally driven it in more years than I can remember. (EDIT - I figured it out - Southbound Feb 1979, Northbound - Oct 1982 - USN tour in the Caribbean between those two dates) She drives it maybe a dozen times a year. Says the road from Jackson through Hattisburg to Mobile is a good easy drive. (Our mothers were sisters and the family home/ our high school was near the AR/LA border north of Shreveport, and she has lived in the Mobile area since 1968.)
PawPaw_n_Gram 10/25/20 10:30am Roads and Routes
RE: Asking for a friend

If there is any possible to install something wrong / opposite to the directions on an RV, most of us will install it the wrong way the first time. The water heater bypass valve(s) is normally on the back of the water heater. Most of the higher end fifth wheels and motorhomes I see have a remote handle to turn the water heater bypass valves on the outside near the city water input. I'm sure the actual valve is located close to the water heater, but the cable pull handle is on the outside as described by the OP
PawPaw_n_Gram 10/25/20 10:16am General RVing Issues
RE: Medicare Questions

I would recommend you do a line by line comparison of Medicare and Medicare supplemental plans with your company insurance. You don't have time to do that properly this year. I recommend you keep her signed up for you company healthcare for the next year, and start your research for possibly making a change in 2011.
PawPaw_n_Gram 10/25/20 10:11am Full-time RVing
RE: best non interstate route from Cottonwood to Albuquerque

Two suggestions, besides Pie Town The VLA is located on US-60 west of Socorro near Datil (Very Large Array of the National Radio Astronomy Observatory) a bucket list item for space flight geeks. VLA on US-60 Unfortunately COVID closed the information center this summer The New Mexico Mining Museum in Grants is simply amazing. The basement is a recreation of a uranium museum. Wonderful. Well worth the detour. Well, I lied, saying two. El Morro National Mounument on NM-53 is also worth a visit. We drove US-60 all the way across NM, from Clovis on the Texas border to Springerville, AZ in late June and early July. Only 25 miles of interstate on I-25 as mentioned above. Wonderful road, nothing too challenging as far as grades. We also drove AZ-260 from Show-Low to Cottonwood. You will climb and descend 5 and 6 percent grades on that route. The stretch from Camp Verde to Payson is steeper and narrower. Nothing crazy, but a definite challenge. Payson to Show-Low the road is better, more traffic, several passing lanes, and a couple good places to stop on the way.
PawPaw_n_Gram 10/23/20 10:05pm Roads and Routes
RE: Tom Sawyer Park West Memphis, Arkansas

Perfect park to relax and prepare for the 'experience' of driving a large vehicle through Memphis, or calm down after that joy. Seriously, Tom Sawyer is a great, well run park. Just make sure you study a recent satellite photo/ map of the approaches to the I-40 or I-55 bridges and check both the Arkansas and the Tennessee highway departments web sites for current construction information.
PawPaw_n_Gram 10/23/20 08:54am RV Parks, Campgrounds and Attractions
RE: Missing Florida Sun in Seattle

Not an expert on the west coast, but Eureka CA and that coast area can be as cloudy and rainy/ overcast as where you are. I found the Oregon coast, especially Newport to Tillamook, to be exceptional. But I wasn't there in the winter.
PawPaw_n_Gram 10/20/20 09:18am RV Parks, Campgrounds and Attractions
RE: Thousand Trails Membership

Look at the number of nights you plan to be in TT campgrounds. Divide by costs per year. Used memberships are a bit tricky to figure, so add at least 10% to what the current annual membership rate is. Still cheaper than new memberships bought from TT overall though. Unless you want some benefits in a new TT membership not available in a used one. But you can always upgrade later. I also recommend you make any decision to cancel at least 90 days prior to the annual renewal date, and send a registered letter to TT with notice of cancellation or decline of an addon like Trails Connection. There is no doubt you can find better campgrounds, if you are willing/ able to pay the costs. TT seldom works for traveling unless you carefully plan your stops and mileages between. Working reservations takes practice, a couple years to learn the tricks. We plan first to use PA for traveling, then others. The absolute BEST discounts are federal campgrounds with a lifetime senior pass, if you are 62 or older. And there are federal campgrounds available where you want to stay with the facilities/ amenities you want. We are happy TT members with a used membership and Trails Connection. And we are full-timers, with TT/TC campgrounds close to children/ grandchildren. In Florida, north Texas, Oregon and Arizona. But we also know some of the disappointing things about the system, still as full-timers, it is great for us.
PawPaw_n_Gram 10/20/20 09:14am RV Parks, Campgrounds and Attractions
RE: Nascar Follies

Sorry, I should have added something - Jeff Gordon's voice
PawPaw_n_Gram 10/13/20 07:41am Around the Campfire
RE: Nascar Follies

Bowyer will balance out Jeff's voice. They could all wheel a car, but none would have been admitted to broadcasting school in the old days of the bass deep voice announcers. Chase looked good yesterday. So easy to go water skiing on the wet track.
PawPaw_n_Gram 10/12/20 08:24am Around the Campfire
RE: Concrete block in my stove !

Tell the wife to not set the Thanksgiving turkey on the stove door, or it will tip over on her.
PawPaw_n_Gram 09/27/20 07:30am Around the Campfire
RE: Thousand Trails memberships

For us, a Thousand Trails Premium Elite membership, purchased used through a broker, works very well. We got a zone pass to try Texas parks. Within four months we were searching for a higher level membership which would include the entire system. But understand: (1) These are not premium level parks. Many are 40 or more years old. The various sales of the company have impacted support for maintenance, amenity upgrades, etc. Most I would put right in the middle range of commercial parks. Frankly, most parks need about a million dollars worth of maintenance and upgrade, and that ain't going to happen quickly. Many parks have only 30 amp service, or very few 50 amp sites. Some parks do not have sewer at all, and many have sections with no sewer. Park wifi is spotty and inconsistent. Many parks have gone to commercial vendors for wifi, which is a pay system. At times I hear complaints. (2) For decades, park mangers have had a great deal of freedom in interpreting and enforcing, or not enforcing, system wide rules. The current owner, Equity Lifestyle, is trying to bring the system into alignment. Some success, some stumbles. (3) Almost every park has 'annuals'. These are sites rented for an extra fee on top of the membership cost which are used for the entire year. The current contract only allows the site to be occupied for 210 days per year of the contract, though the rig may stay on the site all 365/366 days of the year. Of course if someone local is going to rent a site for a few thousand dollars extra per year, they are going to choose a prime site. Traveling members like us, most often had to take second level sites. Also, you do NOT reserve a specific site. From the start, TT has been check-in and go look at open sites to find one you like. As mentioned in the second post, look at how much you will use the parks. Our per night costs are down to $10-11 per night after paying our yearly fees and utility upgrades for 50 amp costs at some parks. But we are full-timers. Go into the system with a Zone Pass and your eyes open. And understand that every park has its little quirks.
PawPaw_n_Gram 09/27/20 07:25am RV Parks, Campgrounds and Attractions
RE: Crater of Diamonds State Park, arkansas

Did it once, in 1965. Mainly we camped on the COE lake a few miles north. Dad like to water ski, and we would be there at time 20 weekends a year. Took my wife back a couple years ago. But it was in July, and right at 100, with 90% humidity. She found it interesting, but didn't want to did in the dirt. Is the water park for the youngsters open now?
PawPaw_n_Gram 09/26/20 04:31pm RV Parks, Campgrounds and Attractions
RE: Hey you Texas-domiciled Fulltimers: a Question

We are supposed to get the inspection completed within 10 days of returning to the state. You will NOT get a new registration without an inspection, or marking the registration application that you are out of state. My registration for the trailer is November, for my pickup February. One or the other is always out of state on the required month (you can do the inspection up to 60 days prior to its due date). My trailer inspection is normally a 10-15 minute stop as we are leaving, or going into one of two campgrounds near Dallas. Not a problem. The pickup is a bit more, maybe 15-20 minutes. Also, but having my domicile in Polk County (Livingston) with Escapees, there is no emissions check required. I make sure I do not got to have the truck inspected in a county with an emissions check.
PawPaw_n_Gram 09/05/20 01:09pm Full-time RVing
RE: Nascar Follies

Could not watch Sat Cup race at Michigan, went to north Phoenix to visit granddaughters. Sunday started good, until Kes lost it and took out my favorite Ryan Blaney. One thing which struck me. Though there have been very few fans in the seats, it hasn't been that visible to me enough to notice the overall impact. Aerial shots of Michigan with empty infield, and parking areas. Only one very small RV camping area outside the track open. Benny Parsons once said "42 cars at 200 miles per hour closer together than the cars in the parking lot." Okay, he was referring to Talladega. There were no cars in the parking lot. That visual really drove home the impact. This summer we traveled from north of Dallas across west Texas, New Mexico (on US-60) and into Arizona. Though almost all park amenities are closed, National Parks visitors centers, and most all tourist spots, national forests campgrounds, state parks in NM, etc. The visual of empty parking at Michigan really placed the closures in perspective.
PawPaw_n_Gram 08/09/20 07:00pm Around the Campfire
RE: New Mexico 'Quarantine" Requirements

We are leaving next week to go to Carlsbad caverns. Am I going to have to cancel now? The park is limiting visitors to 575 per day, and tickets are selling out early in the day. Carlsbad Caverns NPS As others have said - enforcement appears to be lax in the civilian community. I would expect masks and social distancing to be more strongly enforced in the park Visitors Center and the Cave. They are using the elevators to EXIT the caverns only. You have to walk-in.
PawPaw_n_Gram 07/09/20 10:09pm RV Parks, Campgrounds and Attractions
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