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RE: B&W Patriot / Companion Hitch question

Same design, but quite different. Nope not interchangeable. Jerry Thanks
humblerb 03/12/22 08:16pm Fifth-Wheels
B&W Patriot / Companion Hitch question

Has anyone put the B&W Patriot head on a Companion base? It appears as if B&W now makes a Companion Slider and maybe no longer makes the Patriot. They look very similar in pictures. Curious if the heads are the same.
humblerb 03/12/22 02:15pm Fifth-Wheels
RE: Tires---Ouch

Just do like I did and get free tires. Had 36,000 miles on my 2018 RAM 2500 and about 4,000 tread left. Just bought a 2021 RAM 3500. Tires are like new (5700 miles). :)
humblerb 02/26/22 03:58pm Tow Vehicles
RE: Selling Fifth Wheel Hitches - How To

Sent you a PM. Thanks,
humblerb 02/23/22 03:59pm Fifth-Wheels
RE: Hope this is OK for this forum - DEF question

I quit using the jugs and fill with DEF from a gas style pump at the fuel station. It's cheaper, but more importanly there is no dripping or spilling. I was excited when I learned about the possibility of being able to pump. I live in a Houston suburb. Did a search and the nearest station with DEF at the pumps is about 20 miles from where I live. There are only 3 within a 50 mile radius.
humblerb 02/15/22 07:17am Tow Vehicles
Hope this is OK for this forum - DEF question

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humblerb 02/14/22 12:29pm Fifth-Wheels
Hope this is OK for this forum - DEF question

For those of you with diesels in your truck, have you found a good fill spout for the 2.5 gallon jugs of DEF? I have tried two of the ones furnished with the DEF and both leaked. I tried tightening and made sure the rubber vent was seated. Still dripped down the side of my truck. I am new to diesel engines. Any suggestions or tips? Thanks,
humblerb 02/14/22 12:29pm Tow Vehicles
RE: Fifth Wheel Hitch issue - How to correct?

Instead of band-aiding this, since you have the pucks, why not sell the current Patriot and replace it with a Patriot OEM? Either used or new. Most B&W hitches in good condition sell for 50%, or more, of MSRP. Lyle Not sure if this is the same person but selling the existing and buying the puck slider was mentioned. B&W's are easy to sell. Like a lot of folks ,they don't know they can get the frame adapter ,and stay with their rail mount hitch . I did ,and the only drawback to it ,it's one more thing to deal with if wanting to remove. Mine hasn't been removed in a couple years now , no need . The ideal thing is it can be removed for the ones that want a clean bed . The OP asked about selling hitch awhile back, and the frame adapter was suggested , it's unfortunate that he has a hitch that was not built correctly. Appreciate all your help. If it helps anyone else, I wanted a way to remove and install my hitch easily, so I can have my bed back when not towing. I can't back my truck far enough in to my shop to clear the raised door (in order to use a winch from the ceiling). My shop is a steel frame and I have a steel header on the door. I installed an eye bolt in the header. Bought a Harbor Freight chain fall (around $60). Now, I back under the chain fall, lift the base and drive out from under it. I have a rolling cabinet that I lower it on to and move it to storage. I even use the chain fall on the puck adapter the same way, except when I drive out from under it, I lift one side and unhook from the chain fall and lower that edge to the ground. Then I put it on a dolly and move it to storage. Much, much easier handling all this for a 64 year-old desk jockey.
humblerb 02/13/22 07:34am Fifth-Wheels
RE: Fifth Wheel Hitch issue - How to correct?

Instead of band-aiding this, since you have the pucks, why not sell the current Patriot and replace it with a Patriot OEM? Either used or new. Most B&W hitches in good condition sell for 50%, or more, of MSRP. Lyle Not sure if this is the same person but selling the existing and buying the puck slider was mentioned. B&W's are easy to sell. I actually tried to sell the Patriot before I was aware of the Reese adapter. I would have sold it in a heartbeat for half the cost of a new hitch. I listed mine locally for $700. Did some research and I could have bought the same hitch in virtually the same condition as mine for around $300. More than one for sale here. Didn't have one contact from a buyer. Resale in the Houston area is not good.
humblerb 02/13/22 07:26am Fifth-Wheels
RE: Fifth Wheel Hitch issue - How to correct?

I would call B&W and tell them your story. It sounds like your hitch was manufactured wrong from the outset. They may send you a new base. 100% agree to contact B&W. They will take care of you if there is a defect. Let us know what they say. I did talk to B&W during this process. They were helpful answering questions for me. But, did not discuss replacing the base. Likely, because it is already 3.5 years old. I didn't ask about replacement.
humblerb 02/13/22 07:21am Fifth-Wheels
RE: Fifth Wheel Hitch issue - How to correct?

Update: Well, since I am retired and have lots of time on my hands - I found a coarse round file in my tool box. Used a little (or a lot) of elbow grease and manually reamed slightly. Repeated a few times. I was a little surprised at the ability of the round file, but it worked rather well. Pins now go in with less hassle. The last one takes a little manipulation for now. I'd rather have a little tight than a little loose. As I install and remove the hitch in the future, I may decide to ream a little more. Curious did you ream the adapter or the tabs, I believe I would ream the adapter , less metal thickness to deal with ,and no compromising those tabs , the adapter frame holes has plenty of steel there that it wouldn't weaken it at all . I know the tabs are pretty thick, but they are also not that wide . I reamed the the tabs. The steel there is much thicker than the adapter. I felt there was less chance of compromising the steel with the thicker tabs than with the thinner adapter.
humblerb 02/13/22 07:19am Fifth-Wheels
RE: Fifth Wheel Hitch issue - How to correct?

Update: Well, since I am retired and have lots of time on my hands - I found a coarse round file in my tool box. Used a little (or a lot) of elbow grease and manually reamed slightly. Repeated a few times. I was a little surprised at the ability of the round file, but it worked rather well. Pins now go in with less hassle. The last one takes a little manipulation for now. I'd rather have a little tight than a little loose. As I install and remove the hitch in the future, I may decide to ream a little more.
humblerb 02/09/22 05:35am Fifth-Wheels
RE: Fifth Wheel Hitch issue - How to correct?

Well new truck with pucks, I would have the dealer check the install. I have a 2016 Ram 3500 with factory pucks and a Reese picture frame adapter. Mine drops in easily no issues at all. Your old issue with the rails was due to a sloppy installation. The fact that your hitch base drops easily into the frame slots, as they are made to the exact dimensions. My issue is the same with rails and with pucks/adapter. The tabs on the head nearest the cab are 28-7/8" apart instead of 29".
humblerb 02/09/22 05:30am Fifth-Wheels
RE: Fifth Wheel Hitch issue - How to correct?

Instead of reaming out the hole, I would suggest... Remove the head from the rails. Loosen up the bed rails. Don't remove the nuts from the bolts, just loosen them enough where they may adjust when you put the head and pins back in. Once you loosened up the nuts and blots, place the head back onto the rails. Now put all 4 pins into their holes. All 4 pins should be able to slip into their position easier. If they don't, tap on the rail that needs adjustment until the pins go in correctly. After you get the pins to go in and out to your liking, leave the head on with the pins in place and tighten down the rails. Be careful not to over tighten the bolts to stress them. There is probably a torque setting you should use. I suggest contacting the company for this torque setting. If not available, reference a torque guide for the size and grade of bolt you are using. Test the pins so see if they work better. Repeat if necessary. I used this method and installing and removing my hitch head from the rails was so much easier and less stressful. Good Luck, and let us know if this worked for you. Ben Rails were in the old bed. Now have pucks with Reese adapter.
humblerb 02/09/22 05:27am Fifth-Wheels
Fifth Wheel Hitch issue - How to correct?

Long story, but I'll try to keep it as short as I can. 3 years ago, bought a B&M Patriot slider for my RAM 2500. Had the dealer install rails. My first experience, so I didn't know any better. Dealer had trouble getting the base to fit in the rails. After an hour of working on it, they finally got it in. Got home and discovered they installed the base backward. I removed the pins, turned it around and went to reinstall it. Took me about an hour of working with it to finally get the base in to the slots. I could get any 3 tabs in, but the 4th took a lot of working around with a 75 pound hitch to get it in. Recently bought a new RAM 3500 with pucks. I bought a Reese adapter to use the pucks with the same hitch. Now the four tabs slip in, but when I go to put the pins in, I can get the two toward the tailgate with no problem. I can get either one of the two near the cab in, but the other does not go straight in - similar to the rail issue before. If I use a hammer, I can beat the pins in. But, with the new truck, I am trying to make this process better going forward. Measuring the pin holes on the base center-to-center, the holes are right at 28-7/8". They should be 29". If I were to ream out the hole on one side (1/8") or both holes (1/16" each side) it should allow the pins to slide in. This is half inch steel and is very tough. Anyone have any thoughts on how to accomplish the ream? I'm fairly handy, but I do not have any tools that would accomplish this. Thanks for any help.
humblerb 02/08/22 11:22am Fifth-Wheels
RE: Selling Fifth Wheel Hitches - How To

The adapter will work very well, IMO a great choice, some have disagreed with the adapters ,but similar to bed rails other than it can be removed . Being born in the 40's I had no problem with the 75 lbs. FYI the slider although you don't need it will work just fine with the adapter ,no problem there . Finding out after many trips with my fifth wheel my existing slider was not needed with both trucks I used it with . Previous truck Ford Superduty 350 short bed. My present truck 2014 Ram 3500 short bed , or as they call them now standard bed :) I now tow with the steel Andersen hitch ,that also attaches to my adapter on my Ram truck . My Reese 18K slider is more or less a paper weight sitting in my garage. Never have attempted to sell it, I may some day, or just give it away. Got the adapter last week. Surprisingly, it was already assembled. I put it in and just had to adjust thee front pieces a half turn. Fits like a glove. Also, the slider does work with it - not that I will need it any longer. I guess the B&W guy was just telling me what he had heard about the adapter. Thanks again for the help.
humblerb 01/16/22 08:54am Fifth-Wheels
RE: 5er Noob Looking for a Hitch

Lantley, good idea, I didn't think to check Hensley. The air ride is interesting, does it really improve the ride? Regarding removal, maybe not plywood, but drywall...you pile a few sheets of drywall on top of a hitch and it won't look like much when you get it home. Also, DW is into restoring furniture...she's excited to have a truck vs. the old Suburban because she can bring home bigger stuff now... :R I'm thinking an engine hoist make hitch removal easy, right? https://shop.harborfreight.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/6/1/61858_W3.jpg width=440 I tried the engine hoist and got rid of it quickly. Needed something I could be in the bed of the truck when lowering. Couldn't do that with the engine hoist. I wanted to hang a winch from the ceiling. This would have been ideal and I could just "store" the hitch in the air. But I can't back in my shop far enough to clear the raised door when it is open. Finally determined I could use a chain fall. I have a steel shop and have a steel header above the garage door. I installed an eye bolt and hang the chain fall from the eye. Works great for me. Once the hitch is removed, take the fall down and store it away.
humblerb 01/16/22 08:37am Fifth-Wheels
RE: 5er Noob Looking for a Hitch

I have a B&W Patriot slider that I bought 3 years ago for my 2018 RAM Short Bed. The hitch has performed flawlessly. I have no experience other than this. You would only need the Companion non-slider with your long bed. I had the place I bought mine install the rails for me. I also had them install a 7-Pin inside the bed. Very handy. Just talked with a neighbor of mine yesterday and he installed his own rails. Said it took him about 2.5 hours. Then he had to go to a friend's house to borrow a 200# torque wrench. Just depends how handy you are. I just upgraded to your truck, but a 2021. New truck has pucks in bed. I am waiting for my adapter to arrive tomorrow.
humblerb 01/10/22 12:27pm Fifth-Wheels
RE: Selling Fifth Wheel Hitches - How To

Let me add , its a solid connection that frame, it locks to your four factory pucks, and there is no movement or slop . The only movement you will have is the same as you had connected to the bed rails with your four pins, which on mine is nothing I can detect . Its nice to go directly to the four pucks , and if I was starting from scratch , that's what I would do , but nothing wrong with this setup other than another part to take out if a clean bed is needed. In my case ,I don't bother there is no need for a completely clean bed . IMO its great option, the adapter with already having a hitch , and considering yours is pretty new . Cummins2014 - Thanks for your info. As a guy born in the 50s, it is hard for me to just order major items on Amazon, especially items that weigh 75# plus. I did go to the place where I bought the hitch 3 years ago. They do not sell Reese products, but the guy there grabbed a tape measure and looked up specs on my truck and the adapter, then went to my truck and measured the puck locations. That showed me that the adapter will work. It should arrive tomorrow. Once I get it and get it set up, I likely will find why the slider won't work with it. But, with my long bed, I certainly won't need the slider. Just curious. Oh yeah, I did pull the trigger on the 2021 3500 before Christmas. Thanks again for your input.
humblerb 01/10/22 09:56am Fifth-Wheels
RE: Selling Fifth Wheel Hitches - How To

There’s always the option of the frame adapter , I wanted to keep my existing hitch, manual slider. There are three brands of those adapters , cheaper then a new hitch in the event you don’t get your old one sold . The adapter locks on the four pucks , then it works the same as the bed rails, but can be removed along with the hitch or separate. Already talked to B&W about this. They make an adapter for the Companion. But, there is not an adapter for the Patriot and RAM trucks.
humblerb 01/05/22 01:10pm Fifth-Wheels
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