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RE: The world of tow vehicles would be a better place if
In mkirsh's and others example re 25 vs SW35 series. Reality is the 25 need to be lightened up literally gvwr wise! Make it a true beefed up 6 or 8 lug 15 series. Back to more online with the first one I bought in 81, most recent 2000, 6000-6800 grawr, front 4000-5000. The ability to get the smaller motors like the eco boost, smaller diesels that GM and Dodge have. Make it so the 25 does not compete per say with a SW35.
For me and my use, not towing much over 10-12k lbs, 3000-4000 lbs of payload. A truck in this axle wieght class will do that fine. I don't need or want the heavier frame etc that the current 25/35 series trucks wieght in at. I ran into a person at a fuel station. His crew cab short back d/a wieghed a 1000 lbs MORE than my 05 DW crew cab did!
Don't get me wrong, I've always felt the DW 35's were under speed when I was first buying trucks in the 80's .nothing between a 10k gvw and a 20k.
Now there is basically nothing between a 7500 and 11000 gvw truck. Maybe that truck is useless. But I'd bet there are lots of us in or have been in contraction, towing per DOT rules etc, that a beefed up version with the smaller motors better mpg empty etc would be better than the 15's we're driving. Grit and a few others probably fit this truck size as I do.
Marty
You're describing the Titan XD. It sold like a turd in a candy shop.
I think the reality is the mpg ends not being that much or in the Nissan case no better than the HD diesels. The costs to build don't reflect a huge savings to the customer on the lighter versions. GM has tried the "heavy half ton" concept numerous times and they eventually end up dropping it every time. At the end of the day, I think most would end up buying an HD truck verse a near HD truck. When all the numbers are close, most would pick a more capable truck.
Nissan really laid a turd on their project. Change up somethings, like drop the Cummins, fix the looks and maybe they could have made a better run on that concept. As it was, it was an embarrassing failure for Nissan and Cummins.
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01/14/22 05:30pm |
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RE: Electric Chevy Silverado Debut
Reference the Chevy Avalanche:
They were made from 01-2013 and they sold 650K of them. Certainly not bad run. Minus the cladding issue of the early years, I thought they looked good.
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ksss
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01/08/22 12:53pm |
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RE: Are the HP wars over?
I had read several reports; someone started a thread about it in this forum awhile back. Here is a report from TFL:
ClickThat is pretty sketchy as a source.IMO More like a high schooler starting a rumor on purpose.
I wouldn't be surprised if GM pulls this off. They finally decided to compete again in the diesel market and the Duramax 5LP probably has more untapped potential, but they better not loose fuel economy while doing it.
Banks has done a lot of work with the L5P working in coordination with GM. There is a lot more that can be pulled out of the engine. I agree they cant lose any MPG doing it.
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ksss
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12/29/21 08:45pm |
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RE: Are the HP wars over?
That run up the Ike was impressive. The most decisive "win" I can recall of any OEM. The Duramax will see the power improvements, it just wont be in '23, which is unfortunate. Personally, I have no complaints over the current Dmax, but when it comes to power, more is usually better.
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12/29/21 02:35pm |
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RE: Is all DEF the same?
I buy it in bulk from the CASEIH dealer. 60 gallons per trip, they come to my shop and fill it, I have a 100 gal DEF tank that I store it in with an electric pump. I keep it in the shop where it stays cool and out of the sun. I think the last time I filled it, it was just over a buck a gallon. I have no idea what brand it is but it works.
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ksss
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12/23/21 03:42pm |
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RE: back to gas v diesel
I had a '15 3500 with a 6.0 and 4:10's while I had a '15 3500 Duramax at the same time. The 6.0 was never set up to pull the TH, but it did haul equipment as did the Duramax. Loads were pretty heavy (last scaled weight I remember with the 6.0 was 31K combined). The 6.0 would get 5-6 mpg. The Duramax would get around 9 pulling the same loads. The diesel clearly pulled much better, but I never saw anywhere near the separation some claim between the two.
Your numbers show a 50% increase in fuel economy between the 6.0 and the Duramax. And there really is no comparison in the way the two tow. What are you referring to when you say "I never saw anywhere near the separation some claim between the two"?
I am referring to the large separation of mpg between the two. Someone stated 6 mpg with gas and 12 mpg with Diesel. I just don't see that in my world. It seems 3-4 mpg loaded or unloaded is all the difference I have seen between a 6.0 and 6.6 Dmax. No comparison on the experience itself. The diesel clearly wins in nearly all situations.
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12/23/21 02:50pm |
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RE: back to gas v diesel
I had a '15 3500 with a 6.0 and 4:10's while I had a '15 3500 Duramax at the same time. The 6.0 was never set up to pull the TH, but it did haul equipment as did the Duramax. Loads were pretty heavy (last scaled weight I remember with the 6.0 was 31K combined). The 6.0 would get 5-6 mpg. The Duramax would get around 9 pulling the same loads. The diesel clearly pulled much better, but I never saw anywhere near the separation some claim between the two.
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12/23/21 08:51am |
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RE: Antifreeze in transmission 2010 Duramax??
I have the '20 10 speed DRW and an '18 SRW, both are the same spec L5P. The comparisons are pretty interesting. I was good with what the '18 does pulling prior to owning the '20. The '20 is noticeable better. It simply feels like it has more power. The "dead pedal" is gone which great, but I feel the 10 speed makes better use of the power available.
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ksss
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12/16/21 08:40pm |
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RE: Antifreeze in transmission 2010 Duramax??
Opps the interweb strikes again.
12V98 saying you don't need more gears is based on your subjective opinion, but you don't have anything to compare your 6 speed against. You might just find that the pickup runs better with it (I don't know if you would admit that, but it just might). I would at least give yourself some room to acknowledge that the 9 speed, if that is what comes, might be of benefit. What if it made a good pickup, even better? You don't know, what you don't know.
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ksss
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12/16/21 05:39pm |
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RE: Antifreeze in transmission 2010 Duramax??
So far that 10 speed works amazing. I pull 30-35K up and down passes and it is scary how good it is at knowing what gear to be in. Regardless, of who builds it, it works awesome. We will see how it lasts.
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12/15/21 09:19pm |
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RE: The price of new trucks is beyond comprehension!
A friend of mine told me a long time ago, "its all relevant".
Another close friend had two CDs mature, he cashed the interest, just over $80,000.
He took it and ordered a new Ford F-250 Limited regular cab with the 7.3.
He wanted a run around truck and one for doing chores.
He had to pay $800,000 in income taxes for 2020.
For him, a new truck is nothing. For me, its uncomprehendable.
Just a question, your rolling that heavy, why buy a regular cab, limited? To each his own I know, just seems like kind of an odd selection.
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12/12/21 02:05pm |
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RE: which gooseneck ball?
I have seen many Al. frames on class 8 trucks, when that was thing, crack. It is not that same as alloy wheels. The airplane analogy is ridiculous, but since it was brought up, Al does fatigue and crack in airlines as well.
The bumper hitch with the segmented shaft to move the ball up and down, I think is especially a bad idea with a heavy trailer. As I stated, they may work fine, I just don't trust them with a heavy trailer. You may agree or disagree with that and that is fine.
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ksss
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12/10/21 08:08pm |
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RE: 4x4 front hub
I use to use two low a lot with an 86 3500 with a 6.2 L diesel. I have never needed it since then.
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ksss
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12/05/21 04:05pm |
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RE: 4x4 front hub
I use to use two low a lot with an 86 3500 with a 6.2 L diesel. I have never needed it since then.
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ksss
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12/05/21 04:00pm |
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RE: 6.6 GM. Gas
My experience with my GM trucks shows the DIC is inside 1 mpg when compared with doing figuring it manually, and when using the average at 400 miles it is within .5 mpg. To get that kind of mileage on a mix of city/highway mpg is good mpg for HD gas pickup.
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ksss
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12/05/21 01:05pm |
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RE: 6.6 GM. Gas
That is pretty impressive.
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12/04/21 08:59pm |
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RE: Nissan for a tow vehicle
Nissan has really struggled with their fullsize half ton. When you look at how many they sell, it is surprising to me they keep at it. A friend of mine had the Cummins 5 liter when it first came out. He loved the interior, not so impressed with the rest of it. He didn't keep it very long. Resale is brutal on these, took a butt kicking when he traded it. I think you could pick any other half ton and end up happier in the end.
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ksss
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12/03/21 05:26pm |
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RE: 6.6 GM. Gas
I am really happy to see they are switching over to the 10 speed with the 6.6 gas. I think that will make a big difference in towing. That should have been done when they released the engine in the first place, in my opinion.
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ksss
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12/02/21 10:12pm |
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RE: which gooseneck ball?
I use a flip over ball and a Curt attachment (steel) that attaches to the ball with rails and allows you to mount the 24K fifth wheel hitch on top of that (which for me is the Curt 24K hitch). The set up is a bit heavy to install in but I really like it. It may be made in China, I never looked, its HD and works well so that is enough for me.
The Andersen hitches are from here in Idaho Falls, quite an operation. I personally have never bought anything from them. I just don't trust aluminum for things like that, not the fifth wheel hitches or the adjustable bumper pull hitches. It is a personal decision for me, not saying they are not any good, I just don't have faith in trusting Al for hitch material.
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12/02/21 10:06pm |
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RE: Recall of 19/20 Ram Cummins 6.7 diesels
It really was surprising that they went with CP4. They clearly saw the issues Ford and GM were having running that pump when they were running the CP3.
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11/21/21 04:55pm |
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