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SlickWillie

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GGup wrote:

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I have a friend that went to GG in Corpus a few days ago. He was told there are about 30 ahead of him. Also, there has been a change in getting whatever security clearance one needs for the job.


What are the changes? By the State or GG?

We are waiting but hope it will be late next week before we get a gate. Should be soon, I think.

I do not see the tie in of employee vs. contract for the search by the leasing company!


I'll have to talk to the neighbor again; don't want to provide the wrong info. He told me something in the testing has changed.

You may be correct in the searches not effecting the employment status. However, I just can't see illegal searches holding up here in Texas, with the gun laws we have. I'd almost call BS on the searches. Would like to hear from someone who has actually had their RV searched.


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SlickWillie wrote:

GGup wrote:

SlickWillie wrote:

I have a friend that went to GG in Corpus a few days ago. He was told there are about 30 ahead of him. Also, there has been a change in getting whatever security clearance one needs for the job.


What are the changes? By the State or GG?

We are waiting but hope it will be late next week before we get a gate. Should be soon, I think.

I do not see the tie in of employee vs. contract for the search by the leasing company!


I'll have to talk to the neighbor again; don't want to provide the wrong info. He told me something in the testing has changed.

You may be correct in the searches not effecting the employment status. However, I just can't see illegal searches holding up here in Texas, with the gun laws we have. I'd almost call BS on the searches. Would like to hear from someone who has actually had their RV searched.
The change he made reference to was probably when they stopped the online testing this year and went back to a paper trail.

As far as the search holding up, what you forget is this is contract work and part of their contract says, "no weapons, drugs or alcohol" allowed on the work site. As I said, you are allowed to refuse the search, but you will be replaced within a couple of hours, IAW the contract. Yes, we have had several searched and in a couple of cases, they were removed from the gate within hours. You are made aware of these rules prior to going with that company, so there is NO surprise. I have a national carry permit, supposedly valid in all 50 states, but the policy of company you work for, trumps most scenarios when it comes to being armed on company property, even here in Texas.


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I'm not a gate guard but have seen such things in contract work as I worked a bit for a builder that used contractors. It's not like you are an employee and being fired. You will just be told your services are no longer needed.


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But from what I understand, this part of the country, south Texas, is not heavens gate. Hot, hot, hot, HOT summers. Hell, I hear, 80's in the winter. When the rain comes, the mud clings to your feet and by the time you get back to your rig, you're walking on 6" of mud clinging to the boots. I'm not sure $125/day sounds fair. Seems $200/day is more appropriate. Maybe all the RV'ers need to get together and stand together for higher pay. I mean, we're talking the OIL INDUSTRY$$$$$$$. You know what kind of money they pay those roughnecks on the rigs? Granted they are doing a more laborous/dangerous job, but still, the money is there to throw around. Gate guards should see some of it also.


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gktsuda1956 wrote:

But from what I understand, this part of the country, south Texas, is not heavens gate. Hot, hot, hot, HOT summers. Hell, I hear, 80's in the winter. When the rain comes, the mud clings to your feet and by the time you get back to your rig, you're walking on 6" of mud clinging to the boots. I'm not sure $125/day sounds fair. Seems $200/day is more appropriate. Maybe all the RV'ers need to get together and stand together for higher pay. I mean, we're talking the OIL INDUSTRY$$$$$$$. You know what kind of money they pay those roughnecks on the rigs? Granted they are doing a more laborous/dangerous job, but still, the money is there to throw around. Gate guards should see some of it also.


Ain't gonna happen...folks are standin' in line for those jobs.

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The Texan wrote:

SlickWillie wrote:

GGup wrote:

SlickWillie wrote:

I have a friend that went to GG in Corpus a few days ago. He was told there are about 30 ahead of him. Also, there has been a change in getting whatever security clearance one needs for the job.


What are the changes? By the State or GG?

We are waiting but hope it will be late next week before we get a gate. Should be soon, I think.

I do not see the tie in of employee vs. contract for the search by the leasing company!


I'll have to talk to the neighbor again; don't want to provide the wrong info. He told me something in the testing has changed.

You may be correct in the searches not effecting the employment status. However, I just can't see illegal searches holding up here in Texas, with the gun laws we have. I'd almost call BS on the searches. Would like to hear from someone who has actually had their RV searched.
The change he made reference to was probably when they stopped the online testing this year and went back to a paper trail.

As far as the search holding up, what you forget is this is contract work and part of their contract says, "no weapons, drugs or alcohol" allowed on the work site. As I said, you are allowed to refuse the search, but you will be replaced within a couple of hours, IAW the contract. Yes, we have had several searched and in a couple of cases, they were removed from the gate within hours. You are made aware of these rules prior to going with that company, so there is NO surprise. I have a national carry permit, supposedly valid in all 50 states, but the policy of company you work for, trumps most scenarios when it comes to being armed on company property, even here in Texas.


You know that Gov. Perry just signed in a new law where you can have a weapon in your vehicle in a company parking lot if you have a concealed carry permit. I'm thinkin' that should trump any company policy. Oh well, I'm not gonna do the gate guard thing, so I'm not gonna worry about it. I still think searching your RV falls into an illegal search tho....heck, the Border Patrol doesn't even do that.

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I still think searching your RV falls into an illegal search tho....heck, the Border Patrol doesn't even do that.
I guess you have never watched the Border Patrol do a search and then demolish the vehicle with a sawzall? The wife and I have just last spring on 281 south of us here and thought it was funny. Yes, the Border Patrol have the authority to search the interior of any vehicle, with out a warrant, within 300 miles of the border, since 9/11. Prior to that, they were restricted to 50 miles from the border.

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We went to a Marathon site today by Karnes City Nothing going on yet

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GGup wrote:

Maybe we can meet for lunch sometime in one of the towns. Some of us did this last Spring at McDonalds just so we knew each other. Might help that when one of us needs a spell or break and someone is "resting' waiting for a gate they can spell each other.
Anyone that is within 30-45 minutes of us, just south of Three Rivers, that wants to swap a couple of hours, so you can go out to eat together, let us know, we'll be more than happy to help. We did that last year a couple of times and it was great.

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Anybody near Gillett or Nixon? We'll do the swap thing. Send a p.m. BTW I know some of the Marathon Gates are near Karnes City-not a bad gig-Wally World is right around the corner.


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