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^^^ These chargers are being installed in Katy Texas at a HEB grocery store parking lot. I guess the strategy is you can get a charge while picking up the groceries. Also I'm surprised there's a dozen of these being installed and there set up for each parking spot. I'll get a up close picture next time I'm there.


That would be great. If they are V3 Superchargers you would never have time to get groceries. The average V3 stop is like 15 minutes. Closer to 10 to 12 for us. Time for a coffee and a pee and that’s it. We tend to do that every two or three hours though. Especially with the Chihuahua.

I’ll check the Supercharger map. It may say if they are V2 or V3 chargers.

On edit. Found it. Doesn’t say much. Just that the target date is 2020.

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Reisender wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:

^^^ These chargers are being installed in Katy Texas at a HEB grocery store parking lot. I guess the strategy is you can get a charge while picking up the groceries. Also I'm surprised there's a dozen of these being installed and there set up for each parking spot. I'll get a up close picture next time I'm there.


That would be great. If they are V3 Superchargers you would never have time to get groceries. The average V3 stop is like 15 minutes. Closer to 10 to 12 for us. Time for a coffee and a pee and that’s it. We tend to do that every two or three hours though. Especially with the Chihuahua.

I’ll check the Supercharger map. It may say if they are V2 or V3 chargers.

On edit. Found it. Doesn’t say much. Just that the target date is 2020.


Looks like this is another area of competition on the EV market.

Tesla wants to be way ahead in the area of data, battery, design and charging stations (charging turn around).

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FishOnOne wrote:

^^^ These chargers are being installed in Katy Texas at a HEB grocery store parking lot. I guess the strategy is you can get a charge while picking up the groceries. Also I'm surprised there's a dozen of these being installed and there set up for each parking spot. I'll get a up close picture next time I'm there.
This exactly what an EV driver is talking about not taking extra time and a detour to get fuel. Most assume an EV driver will stand there and watch it fill.

Same will eventually happen with the Semi.


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FishOnOne wrote:

^^^ These chargers are being installed in Katy Texas at a HEB grocery store parking lot. I guess the strategy is you can get a charge while picking up the groceries. Also I'm surprised there's a dozen of these being installed and there set up for each parking spot. I'll get a up close picture next time I'm there.
This exactly what an EV driver is talking about not taking extra time and a detour to get fuel. Most assume an EV driver will stand there and watch it fill.

Same will eventually happen with the Semi.


I want and think with my forthcoming Cybertruck, I'll be able to maintain a one-stop recharging between campsites and take my lunch, stretching or maybe a nap.

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time2roll wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:

^^^ These chargers are being installed in Katy Texas at a HEB grocery store parking lot. I guess the strategy is you can get a charge while picking up the groceries. Also I'm surprised there's a dozen of these being installed and there set up for each parking spot. I'll get a up close picture next time I'm there.
This exactly what an EV driver is talking about not taking extra time and a detour to get fuel. Most assume an EV driver will stand there and watch it fill.

Same will eventually happen with the Semi.


Yah. In summary, we never stop to charge, but we do charge while we are stopped. But to be realistic so far this approach kind of only works with Tesla’s due to charging speed and availability. The latter is changing though as the non Tesla networks continue to expand. Other EV manufacturers need to step up their game on charging speed though. The only other players (Leaf and Bolt) are still stuck around 70 KW charge rates or so.

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If a standard for this technology is accepted destination charging could do a lot to replace dedicated charging stops. Especially with automated parking cars could manage charging while the owner is away.

Wireless parking

We might even eventually see some embedded in the road at traffic lights.

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If a standard for this technology is accepted destination charging could do a lot to replace dedicated charging stops. Especially with automated parking cars could manage charging while the owner is away.

Wireless parking

We might even eventually see some embedded in the road at traffic lights.


This is way cool!

Can't wait to happen soon enough although I seem to read somewhere this is first planned in Canada.

If this happens, I don't have to try too hard to keep my garage empty of stuff. LOL!

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Am getting old...90% efficiency for touch-less charging ?!?

Wonder how they solved the flux field build up and gap losses?

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BenK wrote:

Am getting old...90% efficiency for touch-less charging ?!?

Wonder how they solved the flux field build up and gap losses?

Now added to my research reading list


I don’t know Ben but I see this as more of a useful technology for delivery trucks, police cars, ambulances etc. For the average person in a garage at home I don’t see this gaining traction. Mostly because I’m sure the equipment and installation will have an expense. Whereas using the EVSE that comes with the car is free. Maybe some additional expense for a 240 outlet in the garage if one needs faster charging than a 120 connection can provide.

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BenK wrote:

Am getting old...90% efficiency for touch-less charging ?!?

Wonder how they solved the flux field build up and gap losses?

Now added to my research reading list


I don’t know Ben but I see this as more of a useful technology for delivery trucks, police cars, ambulances etc. For the average person in a garage at home I don’t see this gaining traction. Mostly because I’m sure the equipment and installation will have an expense. Whereas using the EVSE that comes with the car is free. Maybe some additional expense for a 240 outlet in the garage if one needs faster charging than a 120 connection can provide.

Like most new tech I expect it to start out fairly high but come down with age. I would like to have it at home (if I had an electric car).

Also, the 90% efficiency number is a baseline from several years ago. The new numbers are: "the passenger prototype has already been scaled up to 120-kW at 97 percent efficiency over a six-inch gap".

For most cars the six-inch gap means that the charger could be flush with the pavement.

Jmho


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