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Well Sam. If they build that factory quick enough you may be in your Cybertruck by end 2021. [emoticon]. Maybe you can pick it up right at the factory. [emoticon]. I think you are quite far up the list from us so we are probably 2023.


Fret not, Tesla has had track records of shortening the wait time for reservations.

Besides, Tesla does not produce for inventory build. With strong demand for Cybertruck, I'm sure they can channel resources and production time for your Cybertruck.

Remember Tesla 3 where they said it will take 8 years for them to deliver pre-ordered cars. Now, if you order, it's just 3 to 6 weeks to get your unit.


Yah good point. Seems to me our model 3 was something like that. May 8 or 9 weeks max...ish.

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Whoa, "start at $35,000 annually, counting benefits". Looks like Elon isn't big into the "share the wealth" ethic. That's about $15/hour. Looks like the people building 'em won't be able to afford to buy 'em.


Curious. What does unskilled labour get paid in Texas. Around here it is just under 15 but headed for 15.20 this year.

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Whoa, "start at $35,000 annually, counting benefits". Looks like Elon isn't big into the "share the wealth" ethic. That's about $15/hour. Looks like the people building 'em won't be able to afford to buy 'em.


Curious. What does unskilled labour get paid in Texas. Around here it is just under 15 but headed for 15.20 this year.
I thought all employees had some level of stock options. Although at this point TX might be a little late to the party.

Otherwise to make the good money they need to make supervisor same as most companies. Or learn some additional skills such as coding.


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Whoa, "start at $35,000 annually, counting benefits". Looks like Elon isn't big into the "share the wealth" ethic. That's about $15/hour. Looks like the people building 'em won't be able to afford to buy 'em.


Curious. What does unskilled labour get paid in Texas. Around here it is just under 15 but headed for 15.20 this year.
So it takes unskilled labor to build the sophisticated Tesla, and maintain the robotic equipment that I'm sure does a lot of the assembly? So a guy could go from building Big Mac's one day to building a Tesla the next day? Maybe the bus tickets from Neuvo Laredo will be comped by Tesla. [emoticon]

Seems like there's lots of complaints from people buying RV's, about the quality of those RV's that are built with unskilled labor. Sometimes you have pay more for a quality work force.


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Quality isn't anything Tusk is interested in...and the higher the complexity of the product, the harder it is to design in quality and to maintain quality...


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So it takes unskilled labor to build the sophisticated Tesla, and maintain the robotic equipment that I'm sure does a lot of the assembly? So a guy could go from building Big Mac's one day to building a Tesla the next day? Maybe the bus tickets from Neuvo Laredo will be comped by Tesla. [emoticon]

Seems like there's lots of complaints from people buying RV's, about the quality of those RV's that are built with unskilled labor. Sometimes you have pay more for a quality work force.


Why Tusk is dead last in the JD Powers rating that is based mainly on quality




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Quality isn't anything Tusk is interested in...and the higher the complexity of the product, the harder it is to design in quality and to maintain quality...


fj12ryder wrote:

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So it takes unskilled labor to build the sophisticated Tesla, and maintain the robotic equipment that I'm sure does a lot of the assembly? So a guy could go from building Big Mac's one day to building a Tesla the next day? Maybe the bus tickets from Neuvo Laredo will be comped by Tesla. [emoticon]

Seems like there's lots of complaints from people buying RV's, about the quality of those RV's that are built with unskilled labor. Sometimes you have pay more for a quality work force.


Why Tusk is dead last in the JD Powers rating that is based mainly on quality




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The way I understand it is if an inquiry is generated on how something works it is a strike against the brand and lowers the score. The more complex and the more innovation and the more features the worse the score. For example; One of the more common questions from new owners of Tesla’s is how to turn them off and on. Especially off. There are no switches. Your butt turns it on by sitting in the seat and off when you get up. Notice that the 6 worst brands are

Jaguar (190)
Mercedes-Benz (202)
Volvo (210)
Audi (225)
Land Rover (228)
Tesla (250)

Make a vehicle simple with no innovative features and it will always score high.

Tesla also scores the highest in satisfaction by consumer reports and highest in customer appeal by JD powers.

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.wsj.com/........er-finishing-last-in-quality-11595433600

Tesla’s, Jaguars, Audi’s etc are highly innovative. The learning curve can be steep and generate a lot of false faults along the way. Although they are intuitive to a degree it is still important to RTFM.

Tesla still seems to be struggling with some fit and finish issues. Annecdotally we haven’t crossed paths with an unhappy Tesla owner. We had a dash that ocasionnaly squeaked. Tesla service came to our house and did something to fix it. Not sure how many manufacturers have that service.

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fj12ryder wrote:

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Whoa, "start at $35,000 annually, counting benefits". Looks like Elon isn't big into the "share the wealth" ethic. That's about $15/hour. Looks like the people building 'em won't be able to afford to buy 'em.


Curious. What does unskilled labour get paid in Texas. Around here it is just under 15 but headed for 15.20 this year.
So it takes unskilled labor to build the sophisticated Tesla, and maintain the robotic equipment that I'm sure does a lot of the assembly? So a guy could go from building Big Mac's one day to building a Tesla the next day? Maybe the bus tickets from Neuvo Laredo will be comped by Tesla. [emoticon]

Seems like there's lots of complaints from people buying RV's, about the quality of those RV's that are built with unskilled labor. Sometimes you have pay more for a quality work force.


When I read "start at $35,000 annually, counting benefits" I think of all the non-assembly people such as custodians, the guy that mows the grass, the folks who work the front desk, etc. Doesn't seem to bad for an entry level type position. I have no idea what Tesla's pay scale is, but to say it starts at $35K means that is what the lowest person on the ladder makes. Others farther up the ladder make more.

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What do you do when you are an early retired 58 year old Tesla chick with time on your hands. Get into rock painting and make a little Jewelry. (might have to zoom in on the earrings and pendant)

Yah. My wife is not a Tesla freak AT ALL?

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"Make a vehicle simple with no innovative features and it will always score high."

Hmm, that would seem to indicate a Yugo should score high. [emoticon] Or a Fiat. [emoticon]

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"Make a vehicle simple with no innovative features and it will always score high."

Hmm, that would seem to indicate a Yugo should score high. [emoticon] Or a Fiat. [emoticon]


Heh heh. Anyway, I am essentially parroting what the publisher of The JD Powers survey says. You can google it if you feel the need.

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