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If there's one thing about a TT that's better than a FW, it's the ease of which to back up. TT requires much smaller steering input than a FW and it's not uncommon to have to saw the steering wheel back and forth with near lock to lock movement compared to the half turn a TT needs.
Certainly a skilled driver can put either one in a given spot but it just requires a lot less movement on behalf of both the operator and the truck to back a standard trailer into a tight spot.

* This post was edited 12/23/17 03:39pm by ScottG *


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goducks10 wrote:

I've only been 5th wheeling for 5 seasons. I still embarrassed myself. [emoticon] Sometimes it's the mirrors, other times I miss the mark 2-3 times. Sometimes I nail it on the 1st try. If the site is on my left when backing in and visibility's good I can usually nail it. On the curb side it's harder.
A backup camera is on the spring to do list.
Part of my problem is the DW. She still doesn't understand that the 5er reacts slower than our TT did. By the time I get the "Go that way" message, I'm too far into the procedure. If the sight is gravel I drag a line with my foot and say this is where I want the 5er tires to go. The other thing I found is to go SLOW when backing up. If you go too fast you'll overshoot your correction point.
I'd much rather back up a TT any day.


Blind side backs are the hardest, CDL drivers try to avoid them. Can you approce from the other way and make it a site side back? Secrets the spotter and the directions. Go to an empty parking lot with her and practice backing into the painted stalls. DW traveled with me when I did CDL and we make a great team with the little 35ft 5W.


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I'd say, given the site itself is long enough, that the difference between can do & can't do is the skill of the driver & the directions given by the spotter. There has not been a 30' max CG that we have not been able to get our just <36' selves into.

There have been differences of opinion between driver & spotter but the driver has final word. There have been a few, very few, times when the driver has had to concede defeat & move to another site, however most times when the spotter has doubts, she gets told yes we can now get us in there. Any unsolicited advice from surrounding inhabitants is politely ignored.


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Sure go for it. The campground don't know what fits on their sites.

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Edd505 wrote:

goducks10 wrote:

I've only been 5th wheeling for 5 seasons. I still embarrassed myself. [emoticon] Sometimes it's the mirrors, other times I miss the mark 2-3 times. Sometimes I nail it on the 1st try. If the site is on my left when backing in and visibility's good I can usually nail it. On the curb side it's harder.
A backup camera is on the spring to do list.
Part of my problem is the DW. She still doesn't understand that the 5er reacts slower than our TT did. By the time I get the "Go that way" message, I'm too far into the procedure. If the sight is gravel I drag a line with my foot and say this is where I want the 5er tires to go. The other thing I found is to go SLOW when backing up. If you go too fast you'll overshoot your correction point.
I'd much rather back up a TT any day.


Blind side backs are the hardest, CDL drivers try to avoid them. Can you approce from the other way and make it a site side back? Secrets the spotter and the directions. Go to an empty parking lot with her and practice backing into the painted stalls. DW traveled with me when I did CDL and we make a great team with the little 35ft 5W.


Good idea. Ironically I've had her back in while I gave instructions when we were in some really tight situations. It worked perfect. But the testosterone in me just can't give up the drivers seat on a regular basis. [emoticon]

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wing_zealot wrote:

Sure go for it. The campground don't know what fits on their sites.
I forgot to mention, make sure you buy a spare rear window for your truck. Your going to want it for the ride home.

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wing_zealot wrote:

Sure go for it. The campground don't know what fits on their sites.


We were at an otherwise nice campground but they insist on directing you into the sites. Over a week, I watched as the super knowledgeable staff directed three rigs to scrape along the same tree branch.

No, I don't trust the campground staff to know much of anything.

Side note: If you are having difficulty because the 5er starts turning slowly, learn to do a "Z" turn on the approach as it primes the turn to get you past the slow to start turning issue.


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wing_zealot wrote:

Sure go for it. The campground don't know what fits on their sites.


90% of the time they don't.


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goducks10 wrote:

I've only been 5th wheeling for 5 seasons. I still embarrassed myself. [emoticon] Sometimes it's the mirrors, other times I miss the mark 2-3 times. Sometimes I nail it on the 1st try. If the site is on my left when backing in and visibility's good I can usually nail it. On the curb side it's harder.
A backup camera is on the spring to do list.
Part of my problem is the DW. She still doesn't understand that the 5er reacts slower than our TT did. By the time I get the "Go that way" message, I'm too far into the procedure. If the sight is gravel I drag a line with my foot and say this is where I want the 5er tires to go. The other thing I found is to go SLOW when backing up. If you go too fast you'll overshoot your correction point.
I'd much rather back up a TT any day.
Agree on rather back a TT.

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davisenvy wrote:

I am trying to see if my FW will fit a campsite I have booked. My FW is 36 ft overall and my dads TT is 30 ft. The CG says the TT will fit in the site, but the FW will not fit because of site access (too sharp of turn), not because the site is too small for my FW. I'm thinking they would be very similar in maneuverability because of my FW being over the axle. What say you?

Well, I have a 37 foot 5th wheel. I had a 30 foot travel trailer. By far the TT is easier to back up. I have a long bed, crew ercab, which makes it more difficult to back up. Out next 5th wheel will be shorter than 37 feet.
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