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Posted: 01/08/18 09:39am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I am debating making the jump from 5er to class C. I found the floor plan I like and am leaning towards Winnebago Minnie Winnie 31K (#1) or Jayco Redhawk 29XK (#2) (same floorplan).

I found a used 2015 31K, but it does not have the fiberglass front cap. I also found some 2018 prior rentals, with front cap, for not much more, but over 20k mileage.

I know Winnebago are supposed to be on the higher end of construction. Would no fiberglass front cap be a deal breaker? Would a newer prior rental be the way to go?

Thoughts?

Side note - anyone know the cargo carrying capacity of the 31K.

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The use of fiberglass one-piece front and rear end caps have been in play for a number of years. They all but eliminates the potential for most cabover leaks. I would hesitate to buy a class C without this level of construction but then I would not buy any C without a one piece fiberglass roof as well.

As for payload, it usually begins to disappear quickly as C's approach 30' and most over 30' are even more limited. Slides and auto levelers add a lot of weight and will eat into available payload vs C's with neither.

I am not a fan of buying a former rental as they take a lot of abuse by inexperienced operators {never met one yet who even had heard of Tow Haul}.

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I "assume" you are saying that the winnie has a fiberglass front overhang but the Jayco has a molded fiberglass front? what is the rest of the top made of? I assume the winnie has a fiberglass roof and the Jayco tpo/epdm? if so, winnie all the way.
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I own a 92 Fleetwood Class C. Only leak I have had was do to leak in cabover side window - not the front windows. Easy fix.


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Posted: 01/08/18 01:57pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Desert Captain wrote:

The use of fiberglass one-piece front and rear end caps have been in play for a number of years. They all but eliminates the potential for most cabover leaks. I would hesitate to buy a class C without this level of construction but then I would not buy any C without a one piece fiberglass roof as well.

As for payload, it usually begins to disappear quickly as C's approach 30' and most over 30' are even more limited. Slides and auto levelers add a lot of weight and will eat into available payload vs C's with neither.

I am not a fan of buying a former rental as they take a lot of abuse by inexperienced operators {never met one yet who even had heard of Tow Haul}.

As always.... Opinions and YMMV.


Well said. The fiberglass cap and roof is really nice. I'm so glad Jayco got rid of that long over cab window. Nothing but trouble and you don't need the light from it nor do you even look out of it.


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Winnebago's construction is somewhat better than other volume-produced Class C's. Much more so if WBO has a fiberglass roof and the comparables do not. FG front cap is a plus, I wouldn't call it a deal breaker. Deal breaker is both Flat and Not Fiberglass. Some WBO have what I call a "Tiara." Just a little "mini cap" at the top of an otherwise ordinary "nose" made of siding material. What the Tiara does, it allows the front edge of the roof to be crowned like the rear. It also mounts the Clearance Lights on a surface that could be easier to keep sealed, than siding. It's also better to NOT have a front window in the cab-over.
Many of us have bought prior rentals. Many are very high mileage, entry level coaches, and a number of buyers seem to be very happy with them. An outfit up in Anchorage (Great Alaskan Holidays) sells off its WBO Chalet Class C's (a brand produced for the rental market) with lower miles than most other rentals and they are simply beautiful. Easily confused with new.
WBO excels in owner support, with their availability of service and parts information, and of parts themselves. They are wired more like automobiles than like other RVs, which are wired more like houses. Most RV's you know this switch is supposed to work that light, which is OK till it doesn't. WBO can sell you a new wiring harness and show you where it goes.
OH, 20,000 miles is no big deal. None at all. You probably don't want 100,000+, but I'd rather buy a 5-YOA coach with 60,000 maintained miles than 5,000 ignored. Coaches don't stand around well.

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My 2014 31K has a 3,275# OCCC. Mine is an oddball for Itasca (Winnebago) in that it has a rubber roof.


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Fiberglass nose cap and no rubber roof were hard requirements when I was shopping. After taking a significant rock strike in overhead that broke through the gelcoat and exposed the laminate, I'm happy I made that choice as it was a fairly straightforward repair....sealing filling, and finish.


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Another thing that FG caps do is transition the loads around the corners, these are better structural designs than 90 degree corners.

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I purchased a new Minnie Winnie 331K in 2013. I too thought that Winnebago was a better product, as this was my second RV. I had several issues with the front cap leaking during hard rains.
Two trips to my dealer were of no use. Calls to Winnebago were of no use either. I finally purchased RV-Plex sealant from Camping World and sealed ever seam on the entire coach, a real job but solved my problem.
I hate to gripe about companies, but Winnebago really disappointed me with this unit. I don't believe I will purchase another Winnebago product. Jayco seems to be a good company and I would think they are as good as Winnebago.

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