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Posted: 01/08/18 11:15am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

9 months in advance for us.....we have our favorite campgrounds and "must have sites." Unfortunately our favorites seem to be lots of other peoples' favorites also.

It's not the millennials, it's the baby boomers that are really buying RV's right now.


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You are kidding, you had trouble booking a site for the 4th of July?

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Posted: 01/08/18 11:53am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

It is the same in California! Too many people,too few campgrounds.


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I think RVing is getting more popular with lots of age groups. For us working stiffs with kids that have to go during the busiest times, it is getting hard to get reservations.

For last Labor Day the campground we went to only takes reservations 45 days in advance of arrival. To get in, I had call in early and start the reservation 2 days before I would arrive. so I had to pay for 2 nights I would not be there. To get waterfront they said that you have to reserve at least an extra week.

As soon as my kids get out of high school in 4 years, It will really open things up for me [emoticon]


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bgum wrote:

You are kidding, you had trouble booking a site for the 4th of July?


Who said anything about the 4th of July? [emoticon]

Even then, our CG's are always about 90% full (100% booked) and holiday weekends are really no different crowd-wise.


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When you need hookups and need to be at the most popular places then, yes, it's crowded. However, moving 10 miles away can be quite different and also if you don't need hookups.

For July 4 and other holidays, we stayed away from water - lakes, rivers, pools and had no problem getting a site without reservations and had a very relaxing weekend. We'd move to water sites during the week.


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2gypsies wrote:

When you need hookups and need to be at the most popular places then, yes, it's crowded. However, moving 10 miles away can be quite different and also if you don't need hookups.

For July 4 and other holidays, we stayed away from water - lakes, rivers, pools and had no problem getting a site without reservations and had a very relaxing weekend. We'd move to water sites during the week.


July 4: looking forward to my favorite CG, no reservations needed four years running now, in the middle of the National Forest with only a muddy pond a mile's hike away for entertainment.

Best thing is no hookups, not even electric. usually no hookups means no crowds.


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Yes, they go quick. Waterfront sites go the quickest. Holidays and weekends fill the fastest.

No it's not the fault of the millenials. Or the baby boomers. It's just life.

Back in the day, people who camped used tents. If you didn't like dirt, bugs, etc., then you didn't camp.

Now, you can camp without ever leaving your comfy bed, tv, microwave, etc. This has brought people of all ages to campgrounds who would have never considered going before.

My advice is to be as flexible as you can. If you can't change your dates, then change your location. Find a different site. Look at different campground sources. If you always go to state parks, then try the national forests, blm, coe, bureau of reclamation, etc. Look at private owned like pg&e, etc. Look at city or county campgrounds.

If you can, change your dates. Instead of going during a holiday or right before or after, push it out a couple weeks.

July 8-14 is right after the 4th. Many people will take a week or two around the fourth for vacation in order to squeeze an extra day or two, so their stay will overlap your dates. If you wait until the following week, you may find it opens up a bit more. August is usually slightly better because there are no holidays so folks pass it over in favor of July and September.


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ScottG wrote:

bgum wrote:

You are kidding, you had trouble booking a site for the 4th of July?


Who said anything about the 4th of July? [emoticon]

Even then, our CG's are always about 90% full (100% booked) and holiday weekends are really no different crowd-wise.


The OP stated that they had the same problem when booking for the 4th.

Also, the 8-14 is the week after the 4th, so there will be lingeribg over from the holiday.

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There are more RVs (mainly TT and 5er) being sold, and at least in Texas, many new RV parks being built.

But much of the sales are for families living full time in the rigs and work full time. Most of these people go into the new RV parks, which are really built like traditional mobile home parks, not as RV camper parks.

But almost every post on this thread is about government owned and operated traditional campgrounds.

Yes, the issue is more demand than supply. And definitely government - both federal and the various states - is not building more campgrounds in state or federal parks.

The issue is too many people more than too many new RVs.

For much of the 80s and 90s the number of families camping declined, As two working parent families became common, fewer and fewer bought RVs. Now many young families are finding RV camping affordable. They are comfortable with the internet and are willing to book their sites a year or more in advance. They know how to play the reservations systems to the heir advantage.

One group which is growing is long term camping retirees. When I was young, and even into the 80s and 90s - the percentage of campers who were in that group was small. Especially those over 70. The RVs simple were not comfortable enough or easy enough to setup for folks that age.

Today the over age 65 percentage of RVers has to be over 45 percent, as high as 80% in some areas. And those who full like us who use government campgrounds whenever possible - we take a huge number of the available campsite nights out of the inventory.


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