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Posted: 02/13/18 06:55am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Could be a fluke thing I’m not sure. But have tried before about 15 times and always dies since oil change.

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Posted: 02/13/18 06:57am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Was that a idle mixture that you adjusted? Some assumed that you adjusted the governed speed.





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azrving wrote:

dougrainer wrote:

kx125str99 wrote:

Hey guys so I finally had some time this weekend to get to storage and tinker with the generator. Ended up adjusting the idle screw. Runs bitchen now. Thanks for all the help guys.


1. Idle screw problem would NOT allow it to run 10 minutes and then die
2. You NEVER have to mess with the Idle screw at all. It is preset to a specific RPM(3600) and changing it will allow the voltage to change
3. It ran OK before Oil change? I doubt you messed with the Idle screw on a simple oil change.
4. While you THINK you found the problem, you have not. You need to check the NO load 120 voltage now, before you burn up any appliances. Doug


LOL, mind reader.


Not a Mind reader. Just KNOW what I am talking about and a Governor or Idle screw adjustment will not cause or fix the OP's problem. Whatever is wrong with his Genset, fixed itself, because changing the oil would not really cause his problem unless he failed to put the required amount of oil or overfilled the oil. Question, If you took your Auto to an oil change place and they changed the oil and then the Car died every 10 minutes and they stated they adjusted the idle screw and that fixed it, would you REALLY believe that fixed the problem? Doug

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dougrainer wrote:

azrving wrote:

dougrainer wrote:

kx125str99 wrote:

Hey guys so I finally had some time this weekend to get to storage and tinker with the generator. Ended up adjusting the idle screw. Runs bitchen now. Thanks for all the help guys.


1. Idle screw problem would NOT allow it to run 10 minutes and then die
2. You NEVER have to mess with the Idle screw at all. It is preset to a specific RPM(3600) and changing it will allow the voltage to change
3. It ran OK before Oil change? I doubt you messed with the Idle screw on a simple oil change.
4. While you THINK you found the problem, you have not. You need to check the NO load 120 voltage now, before you burn up any appliances. Doug


LOL, mind reader.


Not a Mind reader. Just KNOW what I am talking about and a Governor or Idle screw adjustment will not cause or fix the OP's problem. Whatever is wrong with his Genset, fixed itself, because changing the oil would not really cause his problem unless he failed to put the required amount of oil or overfilled the oil. Question, If you took your Auto to an oil change place and they changed the oil and then the Car died every 10 minutes and they stated they adjusted the idle screw and that fixed it, would you REALLY believe that fixed the problem? Doug


most people have no sense of troubleshooting and or are extremly gulable, i once told a girl i was dating that her tire just fell off, while we were driving at 70mph. 0 issue nothing, she almost flipped the car over trying to get pulled over and was hysterical.

needless to say i don't make that joke anymore....





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Posted: 02/13/18 12:21pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I remember some years back a member had the same problem turned out the oil level sensor was bad.


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dougrainer wrote:

azrving wrote:

dougrainer wrote:

kx125str99 wrote:

Hey guys so I finally had some time this weekend to get to storage and tinker with the generator. Ended up adjusting the idle screw. Runs bitchen now. Thanks for all the help guys.


1. Idle screw problem would NOT allow it to run 10 minutes and then die
2. You NEVER have to mess with the Idle screw at all. It is preset to a specific RPM(3600) and changing it will allow the voltage to change
3. It ran OK before Oil change? I doubt you messed with the Idle screw on a simple oil change.
4. While you THINK you found the problem, you have not. You need to check the NO load 120 voltage now, before you burn up any appliances. Doug


LOL, mind reader.


Not a Mind reader. Just KNOW what I am talking about and a Governor or Idle screw adjustment will not cause or fix the OP's problem. Whatever is wrong with his Genset, fixed itself, because changing the oil would not really cause his problem unless he failed to put the required amount of oil or overfilled the oil. Question, If you took your Auto to an oil change place and they changed the oil and then the Car died every 10 minutes and they stated they adjusted the idle screw and that fixed it, would you REALLY believe that fixed the problem? Doug


NO, I mean you were reading my mind. I agree 100 % with what you just wrote too. I have repaired small engines for 50 years so I know what you mean.

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Well when I was adjusting the screw I could hear the engine noise change. It got quieter so I’m gonna go ahead and jump off a limb here and say maybe it was over revving and going into a safety. Iv only had trailer for about 6 months. . When microwave would run it sounded the same as idle. No change. But now it runs like it should. Revs up when under a load. So I’m gonna gonna stick with the idle screw fixed my issue.

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kx125str99 wrote:

Well when I was adjusting the screw I could hear the engine noise change. It got quieter so I’m gonna go ahead and jump off a limb here and say maybe it was over revving and going into a safety. Iv only had trailer for about 6 months. . When microwave would run it sounded the same as idle. No change. But now it runs like it should. Revs up when under a load. So I’m gonna gonna stick with the idle screw fixed my issue.


The Onan 4000 watt generator is supposed to run at a constant speed of 3600 rpm, not "rev up" under load—unless by that you mean getting a bit louder while running at (very nearly) the same speed. Since it's a mechanical governor, it will be running at a microscopically slower speed under load, but only a barely noticeable difference, maybe a few percent.





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