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Posted: 02/07/18 08:45am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Some friends pulled a small Apex TT with their 2013 Explorer, they liked everything about towing with it except for the smallish gas tank. Theirs had an Ecoboost and were pulling a regular TT, with a pop up your mileage may not take as big of hit as theirs did. They traded for an F150 for the larger gas tank. I think the Explorers are nice looking vehicles.


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I towed a big naigara popup which was 3500 lb for a few years. the explorer also had 3 adults, 2 kids, camping stuff filled in. I carried bikes on the roof. Then I moved to a flagstaff 228D for the ac and potta potty with little kids . it was around 2400 lb and the explorer did not even feel it.
Mine was a non tow package edition. so I did not have the OD lock out and transmission cooler. I would put it on manual with 5 and drive.

Never saw the transmission temp move even on 100 plus degree days with ac cranking.

I still have it at 135k and use it to tow some motorcycle and stuff around.


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mkirsch wrote:

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Main concern was that the tongue weight would drop the back end and the headlights would point for the sky,


I wish people would stop this. It's such a stupid exaggeration. The headlights will not "point for the sky." They will be SLIGHTLY HIGH. Some people might flash you, if you travel at night. Not a big deal.

If you want to see what the Explorer will do with 400-ish pounds of weight on the tongue, open the tailgate and sit three people across the back.


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mkirsch wrote:

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Main concern was that the tongue weight would drop the back end and the headlights would point for the sky,


I wish people would stop this. It's such a stupid exaggeration. The headlights will not "point for the sky." They will be SLIGHTLY HIGH. Some people might flash you, if you travel at night. Not a big deal.

If you want to see what the Explorer will do with 400-ish pounds of weight on the tongue, open the tailgate and sit three people across the back.


Yeah an exaggeration, but a problem in the current car that IS an issue while it might not be with this one. However, it's a Ford Edge without a towing package and a lower GAWR in the back and an aftermarket hitch.

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GWolfe wrote:

Some friends pulled a small Apex TT with their 2013 Explorer, they liked everything about towing with it except for the smallish gas tank. Theirs had an Ecoboost and were pulling a regular TT, with a pop up your mileage may not take as big of hit as theirs did. They traded for an F150 for the larger gas tank. I think the Explorers are nice looking vehicles.


Unfortunately that's an issue we're already living with in a 2011 Edge. However we did decide that the ecoboost v6 would be worth it for comfortable towing since mpg is not a huge factor between NA V6 and ecoboost v6.

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alexleblanc wrote:

I've towed a 3500lb 22ft flatbed with mine before with nothing on it just to get it home. so a very similar weight to your loaded popup. The Explorer seems to have fairly stiff springs out back as mine only squatted about 3/4". I only towed it about 8 km's to home on a rural country road with an 80km/h speed limit but I was impressed but it.


Thanks... soft springs like what what we have now were a concern. Granted, what we have now isn't appropriate to tow with in the long term.

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IdaD wrote:

As others have said that combo is fine. We towed a heavier pop up behind a 2010 Pilot for several years and it worked great. My only input would be to think ahead and consider the compromises that go along with a pop up compared to a standard height camper and how you think you'll feel about it long term. It would be cheaper to buy a larger vehicle now and then be able to trade the trailer later if you decided to change without having to change the tow vehicle also. Part of that will also be what sort of plans you have for a larger family in the future (or not). Just something to consider.


Yeah we went back and forth a few times on this one. We don't want to go anything bigger than the explorer for a while. We initially looked at some small travel trailers (Clipper 17BH was one) and felt like we were in a box and the dinette felt so small it was unusable. We also have a fairly large yard for being in the edge of suburbia, but there are some ground clearance issues on one side and tight turn on another, so a trailer with a box over 19 feet or so literally will not fit.

I grew up camping in a 72 Coleman with almost no conveniences (beds, burner, and sink was it) and am also an Eagle Scout and have tent camped for up to a week at a time, so we were looking for an upgrade from that. I was dead set on travel trailers because of that 72 Coleman and ease of set up and extra storage. On a whim we looked at the popup campers in the show room at our local dealer. I knew you could get AC and a toilet, but had no idea you could get interior and exterior showers, king size beds, and a storage box up front. This one also has an extra hookup on the lift that's geared so any power drill can lift the top.

Anyway, hopefully we made the right choice and my punt was I appreciate you making sure we think about it.

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Congrats pat. My 228D even had a electric roof roof. Welcome and enjoy.

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I have a 13 Explorer with the factory tow pkg. the only thing I tow with it is a 3 place snowmobile trailer, approx. 2200lbs. With the back of the Explorer loaded for a weekend and a 12” extended hitch with a tongue weight of 250lbs, it does great! It doesn’t sag, yes the headlights do point a bit higher at night but that is the case with all vehicles.

The only thing I will warn about is the uncomfortable seats. They suck. They are OK for an hour or so. After 2 hours my back was killing me (and it 5 hours to northern WI.) And we have the Limited with heated and cooled seats and all the adjustments. I couldn’t wait to get out. The seats in my 01 Explorer are much more comfortable! Also keep an ear out for the wheels bearings, they are a common failure, towing or not.


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dodge guy wrote:

I have a 13 Explorer with the factory tow pkg. the only thing I tow with it is a 3 place snowmobile trailer, approx. 2200lbs. With the back of the Explorer loaded for a weekend and a 12” extended hitch with a tongue weight of 250lbs, it does great! It doesn’t sag, yes the headlights do point a bit higher at night but that is the case with all vehicles.

The only thing I will warn about is the uncomfortable seats. They suck. They are OK for an hour or so. After 2 hours my back was killing me (and it 5 hours to northern WI.) And we have the Limited with heated and cooled seats and all the adjustments. I couldn’t wait to get out. The seats in my 01 Explorer are much more comfortable! Also keep an ear out for the wheels bearings, they are a common failure, towing or not.


Thanks, hopefully these seats are better but we'll make sure we put some extra scrutiny.

Just curious... why a hitch extension?

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