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I been looking at ordering a 2018 2wd ram. (lets not go into the "you should buy 4wd just in case" argument, I have not needed 4wd in my truck ever, only off road is my stone driveway)

anyway, I notice the GAWR (gross axle weight rating) on the front of the 2wd is 500 lbs lower, 5500 lbs VS 6000 for the 4wd.

the same books show empty the front of the 2wd is 284 lbs lighter than the 4wd, but if the GAWR is 500 less, the 2wd actually has lost 216 lbs carrying weight on the front.
Is this a problem? any weight slips I have for current truck (4wd), its running 5400 in front empty

rear is the same GAWR and 2wd weigh 58 lbs less in rear.

But the 2wd is rated for 6030 payload vs the 4wd 5690.

I guess I am looking at changing trucks because I can get a little more luxury for the same money with the 2wd, and I will step down from the 4:10 to 3:73 hopefully gaining a couple (or 3) MPG.


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"I will step down from the 4:10 to 3:73"

With these new (great) transmissions I not sure it will save you anything - 2018 4.10 vs. 2018 3.73.


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I don't think it's an issue carrying the TC at all. Almost no weight from the TC is on the front wheels. In some cases, it's a negative number. I think someone here reported -150 if I remember right. [emoticon]


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I ordered a 2wd gas 6.4 ram crew cab DRW last fall. I also had not used the 4wd in the 11 years I had the last truck and went gas because we are no longer towing a large heavy fifth wheel plus the added cost of over 10K or more depending on the transmission for the diesel and the diesels are getting so complex that it is scary after your warranty is up. The payload for my truck with the 4:10 rear end is a few pounds over 7K with a GVWR of 14k. I did not go all out but went with a big horn package bed liner,5th wheel prep, bucket seats(higher load rating on paper with the buckets LOL). on paper the ram has the most rated payloads and camper load ratings very close to the fords and the Chevy's and gmc's were the lowest when I was shopping. So far the truck has handled the host TC with only upper stable loads added. I did not go with the factory air bag system thinking I may want to add some aftermarket gear of which there are none available for the ram air system but I later learned that there are currently no sway bars available for a anything with the 6.4 hemi with out heavy modifications of the exhaust system due the routing of the exhaust system .so far 2wd and gas drw is working for us but we don't tow anything so that's where the diesel may be a better choice. my weight slips on both my last truck and this one show the front a bit lighter with the camper loaded.
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I am looking at maybe upgrading to the same truck, but with the Cummins and Aisin trans.
can I ask what MPG your seeing with your Host loaded? my 990 is about the same wind load and close on weight. Current rig gets 10 mpg with 990 on, running highway speeds (55-70). towing my jeep or a 7x14 box trailer I still get 10 mpg.

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4WD usually adds about 450 lb to truck weight.
I went via the same dilemma over a year ago.
-4WD in Ford adds 2" to already tall truck. That might need additional step for the camper
-4WD cost quite few dollars to buy
-4WD cost you more stops at gas stations.
-4WD can add quite a bit to maintenance cost.
I don't drive in the mud, when 2WD with LSD does quite fine where I drive. Actually don't recall LSD ever kicking in my camper driving, but the low cost to have it makes you feel better.

* This post was edited 02/09/18 02:18pm by Kayteg1 *





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It’s not anything to be concerned with. Both will haul the same weight equally as capably. If anything the 2 wheeler will be a bit more stable because it’s lower.


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If your going to be towing a fiver it will make absolutely ZERO difference. Fivers will drop nearly all their pin weight directly over the rear axle.
One benefit, at least on my dually. With 4X2 I got rack and pinion. On the 4X4s you got recularting ball.


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My last truck was a 2006 2wd, I ran it until 2015 and put 60K on it. My brother bought it from me for trade value. He got a great deal. I don't know if the new Rams in 2wd are rack and pinion or not. I thought I read they were not.

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Not my direct experience, but heard that from tow truck drivers.
They order 4WD not for the traction, but fro extra weight on front.
This way they can hook up heavier vehicles without lifting front in the air.
So yes, if you plan to tow heavy trailer on stinger behind TC, the extra weigh on front will help.
Not that the weight might be worth the money spend.

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