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jplante4 wrote:

I figured that it was easier to unhook a toad from a motor home that it was to unhook a 5er from a truck.
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It's about a wash to hook up.

With a 5th wheel, you just back the pickup onto the pin and it snaps in place. Lock it and pull the landing gear and you are done.

With a TOAD, not greatly different. Pull up to the back of the MH, go around attach the links, lock in place and you still have to pull up the MH stabilizers.

A TT is a little more as you have the torsion bars and sway control and you have to be more precise backing up to the trailer but even that is only maybe 2-3 minutes more effort once you get the hang of it.

Where a MH starts to be advantageous for moving frequently is if you get into the sub 25' units with no slides, no toad and you don't set up much at the campsite. There you can unplug and be on your way a little quicker but are you really under that much time pressure to save 10 minutes?


You forgot to mention that with the toad hooked up, you can't back up. You have to unhook the toad to back up.


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luberhill wrote:

Id rather have overkill than underkill [emoticon] Question, Ive always liked Ford, are they the truck of choice with most for pulling 5th wheels ?? And it looks like all the F250's have diesels, don't they use the V10 anymore ??
Isnt the diesel noisy going down the road ?? That constant roar...


Newer diesels are quiet unlike those of the past and they don't stink.

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.... regarding not being able to back up with a toad. We never got into a position to do so. If needed, you just take 5 minutes and unhook the car but rarely would there be a need. Yes, we could unhook in 5 minutes. [emoticon]


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luberhill wrote:

Id rather have overkill than underkill [emoticon] Question, Ive always liked Ford, are they the truck of choice with most for pulling 5th wheels ?? And it looks like all the F250's have diesels, don't they use the V10 anymore ??
Isnt the diesel noisy going down the road ?? That constant roar...


Then by all means go out and get a class 8 semi-tractor and get lots of overkill. [emoticon]

Our last truck was a diesel F250 (1992 vintage) and wasn't particularly noisy.

Our current truck is a V10 F250. Also not particularly noisy, with the exception of climbing a grade. Gas engines need lots of RPM to put out max HP and that can be a bit noisy. We aren't constantly climbing grades so not really an issue.

Both work fine but we are pulling a bigger trailer than a little 25'.

It won't hurt to bump up to a 3/4 ton but for a 25' trailer, you don't need it.

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Well I guess that's one way to look at it but not the intended way, my point that seemed to have gone over your head is IF im buying a truck to pull a 5th with, everything ive read says 1/2 ton truck is minimal for pulling...so IF im buying a truck anyway and there is always a chance of getting a bigger trailer why not just get the 3/4 ton to start with, in pulling its always better to error on the safe side and I never hear anyone saying " jeez this pulls too easy and gets too much fuel mileage, I should have bought a smaller truck" [emoticon]
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The prior truck we had was a 3/4 ton, V10, 6.8L and it had problems pulling the FW we currently have. No problems whatsoever with the 1 ton we now have.

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bikendan wrote:

luberhill wrote:

so a 25 ft trailer, would that be a 5th or travel ??
And would a 3/4 ton Ford diesel be best to tow or gas or ???


Has to mean Travel Trailer.
A 25' 5th wheel is rarer and way less room than a 25' TT. The 5th wheel is measured from nose to bumper, while a TT is measured from tongue to bumper.
The nose of a 5th wheel is longer than the TT tongue.


??? A fifth wheel is usually measured from pin to rear. A 25 ft 5th wheel has more room then a 25 ft travel trailer as it is measured from ball to rear giving approx 21-22 ft of living space compared to 25 ft for the 5th wheel.


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Guess im thinking IF im going to buy a truck anyway, should I get an f250 instead of an F150 IF I might buy a TT or 5th...we are still leaning towards a small (under 30ft) motorhome...but im still going to buy a pickup...is the fuel mileage that much worse on a 250 than a 150 ??
Then diesel or gas question IF im not going to be towing....UGGG !!

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luberhill wrote:

so a 25 ft trailer, would that be a 5th or travel ??
And would a 3/4 ton Ford diesel be best to tow or gas or ???

It’s the best for those that like Ford the most....
All are of about equal capabilities. Ford and GM diesels are whisper quiet now. Ram is the only one that still sounds like a truck, barely.
Seriously, you should go look at some trucks.


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im looking at used,,,2103 or 14 when bodies were still steel...also I watched the reviews on the new ones towing a fifth...the Ford towed easier, was quieter, fuel mileage went to GM, and interior went to Dodge...
I know maintenance on the diesel is higher costs,,,and IF I don't end up with a TT or 5th driving around in a f250 diesel probably wouldn't be the best,,,

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