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Posted: 10/07/18 04:03pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

The new 5w's up to 11k seem to be a little lower in height, so I would get the 16" tire option if they have 15" standard. (wish I had)
I would also get a 4:10 or 4:30 gear ratio, since it is a gas engine.
You might could call the rv dealer and ask them the measurement from the ground to the pin box sitting level, and compare that to the truck bed rail.

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If doing it again I would get the horse first. I would go all in & get a Clydesdale. Big enough to pull almost anything. Install the hitch then go trailer shopping with the truck. Nothing more intimidating to a dealer than being able to tow it away today or go to thenext dealer down the road.


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riven1950 wrote:

Ok, more newbie 5th wheel questions:

We've pretty much decided on a 6.2 f250 4x4 gas 3.73 CC 6 3/4 ' bed if we go ahead with our switch to a fifth wheel.

Also looking at 5th wheels that have a gross weight of 10500-11000 max, 32-34' max. length.

Payload on the truck will run 3100-3200 area so should not be an issue we think with that size 5th wheel.

I am reading about bed height issues with f 250 and f350 trucks and lighter 5th wheels, things like flipping axles etc to level up. Don't really want to go there.

If we buy the truck first will the height issue be something we need to worry a lot about when deciding on a 5th wheel?

Can you determine if this is an issue from the 5th wheel specs without physically seeing the 5th wheel ( some we like on paper are not close by )?

Are there hitches out there where you can adjust for the height issue?

Would a 2wd be easier to deal with?

We have always had a 4x4 although rarely use it. We get snow trace about every 5 years and don't offroad, although with a new 5th wheel we would plan on a cross country trip which may involve some boondocking. Ford truck forums indicate a little better mileage with 2wd but we like the looks of the 4wd better and the insurance of 4wd if needed.

Not too concerned about not having enough truck after we find a fifth wheel. We don't want a big 5th to haul around and have found many in our size / weight range that we can deal with.

Hope this is not as confusing as we are confused.

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If doing it again I would get the horse first. I would go all in & get a Clydesdale. Big enough to pull almost anything. Install the hitch then go trailer shopping with the truck. Nothing more intimidating to a dealer than being able to tow it away today or go to thenext dealer down the road.

Veebyes, while I agree with you, sure go get a 350/3500 Diesel DRW, but OP doesn't seem to want something like that.

Riven1950, getting a F250 6.2 gas the issue isn't payload it is the ability to move the load of the 5er you end up liking/buying. What if you find the floor plan and features in a 5er with a dry weight of 10,500# to 11,000# now you are looking at a GVWR 13,000# to 15,000#, trust me your desires may grow.

Now you don't have enough truck. Even if you do find a 5er with a good floor plan at 10,500# to 11,000# the Appalachian Mts. are right there do you really want to pull those grades with a 6.2 gas engine, even with 4.30 gears?

Just something to think about.


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rhagfo...I think you misread my post. We are looking at 10500-11000 GROSS 5th wheels. Don't want one that weighs 13000-15000. If we did we would be looking at a diesel for sure, probably a diesel dually.

If I were to change from the 6.2 ( for the 5th we want ) I would special order a max tow / max payload F150, not a diesel.

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riven1950 wrote:

rhagfo...I think you misread my post. We are looking at 10500-11000 GROSS 5th wheels. Don't want one that weighs 13000-15000. If we did we would be looking at a diesel for sure, probably a diesel dually.

If I were to change from the 6.2 ( for the 5th we want ) I would special order a max tow / max payload F150, not a diesel.


No I didn't miss read, my statement is what IF you DON"T find a unit you like in that weight range.

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^^^^^^^The worst thing would be to find a floor plan and 5th wheel you love and have to settle for something you don't like as well simply because your truck won't handle it. Nothing is much worse than settling for second, or third, best.


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I always buy the truck I need/want and then match the truck camper/TT or 5th wheel trailer to my truck. My truck has to work along with pleasure.
We've had three 5th wheel trailers all in the 28-32' range. We started back in the '60s with three truck campers. We wanted a bit more room so a 5th wheel trailer fit our requirements and for pulling our fishin' boats. For us a behemoth trailer didn't fit our wants/needs.
Having made a living for several years with one ton DRW trucks I wanted no more of them for a pleasure truck..... mainly because they can't physically go where we sometimes like to go.


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I have never had to turn around because my 2wd dually was unable to take me there. Why I have even been to Walmart a few times. The long walk from a little further out in the carpatk is healthy.

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I have been to Alaska and back twice with two-wheel drive trucks towing my fifth wheel (In the summer, of course) and never needed four-wheel drive. Here in Arizona we often camp up on the Rim. If the weather looks iffy, we stay home. Never had a problem with two-wheel drive.

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