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irollman wrote:

I'm considering purchasing a 5th wheel to replace my Class A. It would be a full-timer rig, so it won't be hauled a lot. But I'd end up using the truck as a daily driver, or mostly so. Looking to get a 1-ton, as I'm looking for a more comfy 5er, which means bigger.

So, would a rear end with single wheels do OK, or is that a real no no, and should I go duallie?


Will all depend on what FW you get. I know people that full-time in a 32-35' rig, which would fit with most SRW trucks. I also know people who full-time in 40-42' rigs that are big enough to =require= at least an MDT if not an HDT. I'd say that, for full-timing use, you'll almost certainly need a dually, even if you don't plan on moving it very much, just for the extra payload capacity the duals will give you when you =do= move it. Now, if you can FT in a smaller rig, then an SRW could work. You'll really need to run some numbers on what FWs you're looking at.

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4x4ord wrote:

To pull a big heavy 5ver; a dually ... for a daily driver; a one ton SRW. I tow up to 30,000 lbs with my SRW, but for the amount I do that my SRW does just fine. For my 16,000 lb RV, I wouldn't want a dually even if I towed daily but for regular towing of over 16k lbs I would go dually.


I agree with this. A modern SRW 3500 is one heck of a heavy duty truck. Up to 16,000 lbs I'm using a SRW. As for using it for full timing I'd much rather have the smaller width to use as my daily driver when living in a 5th wheel. Heck even the simple things like going through a car wash. I'm not hand washing that thing every week!

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We are not even sure what RV we plan on buying but got a dually to make sure we weren't limited. It's just as long as the long bed we would have gotten anyway for the larger fuel tank. So it's a wee bit wider. Not a big issue thus far with me commuting to work in it and taking it on grocery runs.

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Dually, so much more stable


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Some here thing only a dually can tow a 5th wheel. Here is a picture on one of their daily drivers.

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I understand why you are asking but it is kinda like asking which truck is the best, Ford, Chevy, Dodge. Everyone thinks what they have is the best and if you don't have it you get smart answers. I too went back to a fiver after owing a dp class A mainly due to the room difference. We could have gone with a srw F-350 as far as towing but the dually will give you more stability in all circumstances. I have had both. You will need to be more aware of parking in tight spots but I do that anyway. I don't want some yahoo opening their car door into the side of anything I own.
If you are not sure what fiver you will get I would just hold off on the decision until you decide. Whatever you do just make sure you really make your decision based on how you feel and NOT from others.


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The new Ford's F350 diesel SWR with the aluminum body have increased their CCW from 22k to 28k which means it will handle 18K GVW trailers. The weight savings with aluminum body allowed for a more robust frame and suspension while keeping the GVW the same as previous models. Anything over 18k trailer would need a dually.

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justme wrote:

The new Ford's F350 diesel SWR with the aluminum body have increased their CCW from 22k to 28k which means it will handle 18K GVW trailers. The weight savings with aluminum body allowed for a more robust frame and suspension while keeping the GVW the same as previous models. Anything over 18k trailer would need a dually.


At 18K a lot of 5th wheels will have to much pin weight for SRW Ford or the other two also.

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Me Again wrote:

justme wrote:

The new Ford's F350 diesel SWR with the aluminum body have increased their CCW from 22k to 28k which means it will handle 18K GVW trailers. The weight savings with aluminum body allowed for a more robust frame and suspension while keeping the GVW the same as previous models. Anything over 18k trailer would need a dually.


At 18K a lot of 5th wheels will have to much pin weight for SRW Ford or the other two also.

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If pin wieght is 3600(.2 of 18000) that leaves plenty of room for other stuff/passengers. I agree that 18000 GVW trailer would max wieght for a 2017 or newer F350. Also with a SRW F350 with the rear sway bar otpion it would handle as well as a dually.

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justme wrote:

The new Ford's F350 diesel SWR with the aluminum body have increased their CCW from 22k to 28k which means it will handle 18K GVW trailers. The weight savings with aluminum body allowed for a more robust frame and suspension while keeping the GVW the same as previous models. Anything over 18k trailer would need a dually.


So you think a 18k 5er with 25% pin of 4,500# would be fine???


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