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The new Ford's F350 diesel SWR with the aluminum body have increased their CCW from 22k to 28k which means it will handle 18K GVW trailers. The weight savings with aluminum body allowed for a more robust frame and suspension while keeping the GVW the same as previous models. Anything over 18k trailer would need a dually.


So you think a 18k 5er with 25% pin of 4,500# would be fine???


That was my point. Many 5th wheel manufacturers have been moving the trailer axles back, increasing pin weight percentage. Chris


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Cummins12V98 wrote:

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The new Ford's F350 diesel SWR with the aluminum body have increased their CCW from 22k to 28k which means it will handle 18K GVW trailers. The weight savings with aluminum body allowed for a more robust frame and suspension while keeping the GVW the same as previous models. Anything over 18k trailer would need a dually.


So you think a 18k 5er with 25% pin of 4,500# would be fine???


The distances I tow my fifth wheel I would set it on my truck and it would be just fine.


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Cummins12V98 wrote:

justme wrote:

The new Ford's F350 diesel SWR with the aluminum body have increased their CCW from 22k to 28k which means it will handle 18K GVW trailers. The weight savings with aluminum body allowed for a more robust frame and suspension while keeping the GVW the same as previous models. Anything over 18k trailer would need a dually.


So you think a 18k 5er with 25% pin of 4,500# would be fine???


That was my point. Many 5th wheel manufacturers have been moving the trailer axles back, increasing pin weight percentage. Chris


My 23k 5er has a 25% pin of 5,750#. Many people have no idea what their pin percentage and is over the mythical 20%.


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Im at about 17000 lbs with with 400 lbs of ballast in the front closet and my 800 lb motorcycle loaded on the back of the fiver. My pin weight is at 14% which is not quite enough. Without the bike the pin weight is 17% and the trailer pulls beautifully.

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justme wrote:

The new Ford's F350 diesel SWR with the aluminum body have increased their CCW from 22k to 28k which means it will handle 18K GVW trailers. The weight savings with aluminum body allowed for a more robust frame and suspension while keeping the GVW the same as previous models. Anything over 18k trailer would need a dually.


18k is the max trailer weight for conventional towing behind a SRW pickup. 20600 lbs is the max weight fir fifth wheel/gooseneck set ups. I guess that must be figuring about 17% pin weight.

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4x4ord wrote:

justme wrote:

The new Ford's F350 diesel SWR with the aluminum body have increased their CCW from 22k to 28k which means it will handle 18K GVW trailers. The weight savings with aluminum body allowed for a more robust frame and suspension while keeping the GVW the same as previous models. Anything over 18k trailer would need a dually.


18k is the max trailer weight for conventional towing behind a SRW pickup. 20600 lbs is the max weight fir fifth wheel/gooseneck set ups. I guess that must be figuring about 17% pin weight.


Gooseneck trailers will be about 15% pin and triple axle 5er's have much less pin weight than double axle.

I am at the max RAW towing my RV but could tow much heavier if it were a triple axle.

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I’ve had a number of SRW trucks. We decided in 2014 to try a DRW. In the last 15 years we had all SRW. Fords. The 2014 is Ford DRW. First thing I will say is how much better the DRW pulls. Very relaxing trip. I’ve driven the truck in cities and a daily driver. I’ve found one place w
Here I won’t drive back through. The bank drive through.


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C Schomer wrote:

If in doubt... get a dually!


^^^^^^^^^^^ What he said.

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Thank you all for your willingness to share knowledge and experience. Based on the 5ers I'm looking at, I'll likely end up with a DRW rig.

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