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Posted: 10/07/18 01:37pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

A friend bought a lightweight 5th wheel trailer, I don't recall the brand. He likes it. His old truck conked out and he bought a new 3/4 ton Ford. I asked him how it pulls it and he bragged on it, like, nothing to it. But I have read a ton of posts and a good percentage of people say just go ahead and buy a 1-ton and you're good to go. I have never owned a 1-ton. Are dual wheels pretty much required, is that your opinion? Reason I ask is I don't like the look of a dually, lol. If my friend can pull his 5th wheel fine and dandy with a 3/4 ton, seems a 1-ton that is not a dually would be fine. I also don't know how much rougher a ride a 1-ton would provide vs. a 3/4 ton. Buying a 3/4 ton would be great if it's enough! I liked his 5th wheel, far as the layout goes, very nice.

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It all depends on the total loaded weight and the loaded pin weight of the 5er to determine the truck you need. A 250/2500 will work for a lighter 5er. A heavier 5er might need an SRW 350/3500. And an even heavier 5er might need a dually. But in spite of what many want you to believe, you do not need a dually simply because you buy a 5er. An SRW is stable towing a 5er if the trailer is matched to the truck ratings. It is all about the 5er weight and the truck load and tow ratings.

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If I read the Trailer Life - Towing Guide correctly, the 2018 F-350 can tow 4000 lbs more than the F250 (both with SRW and diesel) 14,000 vs. 18,000.


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Just follow the rule...”buy or select the TT or 5er first then match a TV to it.”


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If properly matched (actual weights) to the truck capability then 3/4 ton can be a great towing platform.

Same for 1 ton SRW...or a 1/2 ton truck etc

It is all about knowing what the trucks Axle Ratings are vs the Axle Weights so one can make an educated decision on how much 'weight carrying capacity' is available for PIN weight or Tongue weight


I tow a 14K 5vr with a 2007 3500 SRW.......pin weight puts be right at RAWR

Todays 250/2500s are capable of towing that same 5vr


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Since you didn't post brand and model of your friend's trailer nor the one you're looking at, its hard to advise you.
As the others said, pin weight first, then the trailer's weight are the determining factors as to what to recommend.
A SRW 1 ton can tow a lot of 5th wheels easily.


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If you plan on towing a 5th. wheel for any extended period of time, go with a 3500 Diesel SWD. The difference in price between a 3/4 vs a 1 ton is not significant in the long run and you will not have to worry about the weight of the 5th. wheel with few exceptions. If you are looking a big 40' or longer 5th. wheel then you might be better off with the dually wheels.

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Historically the difference between a 3/4 and 1 ton (SRW version) is a bigger spring pack for the 1 ton. Nothing else is different.

Some of the newer trucks (Dodge in particular) use different spring designs.

When you move up to a dually, it's a whole different rear axle.

For a 5th wheel, it's all about the pin weight (yes, check all the stats) and each move up will get you more capability to carry pin weight.

Moving up to a 1ton SRW is negligible cost and negligible impact on ride quality empty, so unless there is a big registration fee jump, go for the 1 ton.


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This has never been discussed, lol.
In short apples to apples, a 3/4 ton is a 1 ton with less spring capacity in the rear suspension and a lower published gvwr.
Otherwise, same truck, differnet badge on the door.


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valhalla360 wrote:

Historically the difference between a 3/4 and 1 ton (SRW version) is a bigger spring pack for the 1 ton. Nothing else is different.

Some of the newer trucks (Dodge in particular) use different spring designs.

When you move up to a dually, it's a whole different rear axle.


Ford uses 2 or 3 differnet axles. GM is the same 2500 up to dually. Ram is only a slightly larger ring gear, same basic axle. Track width of the axles is typically a couple inches wider on a dually to account for rim offsets.

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