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westernrvparkowner wrote:

I actually do own to the middle of the road and the county is granted an easement 30 feet on either side of that center line. You cannot build on to the easement, you can't plant trees on the easement and there are probably thousands of other things you can't do.

That's how it is in my area. We own to the middle of the road. It does not matter if it's a state, county or local municipality road.
You have no control and, parking can be restricted in front of your house.
But, you are paying tax on the property you can't use. Isn't it great? [emoticon]

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Has it ever occurred to you that YOU voted for these people?


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We live in a HOA area but it allows RV storage in the back/side yard behind your fence. One reason we bought there. The few bad apples are why some of us prefer to live in HOA neighborhoods.

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I'm happy living with rules and zoning. I prefer tidy to cluttered. JMO. It's a big country, probably somewhere suitable for everyone.





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I guess you could say I live in a blue state, county and city and the PD here(only an observation on my part)had the city wide no parking RV's for any reason whatsoever removed from the books.

Now we have six or eight ordinances regarding RV parking in specially designated areas and a Fire Department ordinance giving them the power to decide, without ordinance, if parking is unsafe.

The City of Santa Barbara has ordinances that are very strict regarding overnight parking and RVs being used for residences, however, they also have involved the Churches and Businesses in the City in providing overnight parking for homeless and full time RV residents during the night time when the parking is not needed for business purposes. Overnight parking to load and unload by owners is 72 hours and no permit required.

The City is very strict about littering and sanitation and those laws are very strictly enforced. Some call it using common sense and consideration and I think it is fair.


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The Lane where we live is a private road. The property lines are along side the lane. there is no HOA, and very few CCRs. Of course, with no HOA, there is no one to enforce the CCRs.
We are free to do whatever we want with our land, as long as we comply with the County rules regarding trash and weeds.
Oh, yeah, we can't have goats, according to the CCRs. But, with no enforcement, it doesn't matter...
Those are some of the reasons we bought the place!


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mowermech wrote:

The Lane where we live is a private road. The property lines are along side the lane. there is no HOA, and very few CCRs. Of course, with no HOA, there is no one to enforce the CCRs.
We are free to do whatever we want with our land, as long as we comply with the County rules regarding trash and weeds.
Oh, yeah, we can't have goats, according to the CCRs. But, with no enforcement, it doesn't matter...
Those are some of the reasons we bought the place!


Until someone else moves in and hates your goats and raises a fuss. Then the police will fine you for violating the CCRS even without an HOA. That has happened in many many places.


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One of the reasons I live in the country far away from stupid rules like this.


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toedtoes wrote:

mowermech wrote:

The Lane where we live is a private road. The property lines are along side the lane. there is no HOA, and very few CCRs. Of course, with no HOA, there is no one to enforce the CCRs.
We are free to do whatever we want with our land, as long as we comply with the County rules regarding trash and weeds.
Oh, yeah, we can't have goats, according to the CCRs. But, with no enforcement, it doesn't matter...
Those are some of the reasons we bought the place!


Until someone else moves in and hates your goats and raises a fuss. Then the police will fine you for violating the CCRS even without an HOA. That has happened in many many places.

Not in California. CC&R's are enforceable by HOA, not LEO's. The rules are not laws and as such, the HOA must issue the citation in order for a court judge to recognize the violation. No HOA to plaintive, if a judge ever did get a case, they'd have to rule for the defendant.


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Ski Pro 3 wrote:

toedtoes wrote:

mowermech wrote:

The Lane where we live is a private road. The property lines are along side the lane. there is no HOA, and very few CCRs. Of course, with no HOA, there is no one to enforce the CCRs.
We are free to do whatever we want with our land, as long as we comply with the County rules regarding trash and weeds.
Oh, yeah, we can't have goats, according to the CCRs. But, with no enforcement, it doesn't matter...
Those are some of the reasons we bought the place!


Until someone else moves in and hates your goats and raises a fuss. Then the police will fine you for violating the CCRS even without an HOA. That has happened in many many places.

Not in California. CC&R's are enforceable by HOA, not LEO's. The rules are not laws and as such, the HOA must issue the citation in order for a court judge to recognize the violation. No HOA to plaintive, if a judge ever did get a case, they'd have to rule for the defendant.


Except, the community can reestablish an HOA. I've seen it happen. Where there is a will there's a way, so to speak.

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