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spud1957

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Look out Ford, Ram's coming after you.

https://driving.ca/ram/auto-news/news/ra........closer-to-ford-f-series-top-seller-title

I don't want to diminish the good news but some of the increase has to be related to deep discounts.

I looked at an F250 CCSB 6.7 Lariat at $73,000 with Family Pricing. A comparable Ram 2500 CCSB 6.7 Big Horn at $58,000.

Canadian prices.

I would strongly consider the Ram just based on price alone but you gotta luv the Cummins.

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had a ram one time ,58k garage kept doors rusted about a foot up on each side ,ram said tuff cookie , never again.

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spud1957 wrote:

Look out Ford, Ram's coming after you.

https://driving.ca/ram/auto-news/news/ra........closer-to-ford-f-series-top-seller-title

I don't want to diminish the good news but some of the increase has to be related to deep discounts.

I looked at an F250 CCSB 6.7 Lariat at $73,000 with Family Pricing. A comparable Ram 2500 CCSB 6.7 Big Horn at $58,000.

Canadian prices.

I would strongly consider the Ram just based on price alone but you gotta luv the Cummins.


Not quite Apples to Apples, at least not the same variety. A Ford Lariat is equal to Ram Laramie, then within that trim level there are many option packages.


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midnightsadie wrote:

had a ram one time ,58k garage kept doors rusted about a foot up on each side ,ram said tuff cookie , never again.


Neighbor has a 2011 F150. The bed started rotting at 5 years old with 60k. It's now 8 years old and looks terrible. I guess Ford is OK with their product looking like that on the road. And my wife's 13 Explorer has paint peeling off the aluminum hood as well as the rear door inner seems starting to rust!

I'm done with Fords at this point!,,,


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dodge guy wrote:

midnightsadie wrote:

had a ram one time ,58k garage kept doors rusted about a foot up on each side ,ram said tuff cookie , never again.


Neighbor has a 2011 F150. The bed started rotting at 5 years old with 60k. It's now 8 years old and looks terrible. I guess Ford is OK with their product looking like that on the road. And my wife's 13 Explorer has paint peeling off the aluminum hood as well as the rear door inner seems starting to rust!

I'm done with Fords at this point!,,,


How you take care of and wash your vehicles has a lot to do with rusting out. I live in the middle of rust belt country and rarely see Fords of that vintage starting to rusting out at 6 years. Any brand will rust out if you dont take care of them. My truck is 6 years old with 100k plus miles and the body looks very clean, no hint of rust. Another person I know who has the same vintage and brand truck as me is rusting quite badly but then again I rarely see it clean either. Winter time I am always running thru the car wash getting the underbody washed.

I noticed you mentioned a few times about peeling paint on aluminum. Can't say I've ever seen that around here, can't be a wide spread issue. I remember back in the day GM had a known problem with that as my brother in law had one and that was all steel and half the paint was missing on the hood.

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Hammerboy wrote:

dodge guy wrote:

midnightsadie wrote:

had a ram one time ,58k garage kept doors rusted about a foot up on each side ,ram said tuff cookie , never again.


Neighbor has a 2011 F150. The bed started rotting at 5 years old with 60k. It's now 8 years old and looks terrible. I guess Ford is OK with their product looking like that on the road. And my wife's 13 Explorer has paint peeling off the aluminum hood as well as the rear door inner seems starting to rust!

I'm done with Fords at this point!,,,


How you take care of and wash your vehicles has a lot to do with rusting out. I live in the middle of rust belt country and rarely see Fords of that vintage starting to rusting out at 6 years. Any brand will rust out if you dont take care of them. My truck is 6 years old with 100k plus miles and the body looks very clean, no hint of rust. Another person I know who has the same vintage and brand truck as me is rusting quite badly but then again I rarely see it clean either. Winter time I am always running thru the car wash getting the underbody washed.

I noticed you mentioned a few times about peeling paint on aluminum. Can't say I've ever seen that around here, can't be a wide spread issue. I remember back in the day GM had a known problem with that as my brother in law had one and that was all steel and half the paint was missing on the hood.

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We have a fleet of Ford Expeditions at work, and every single one of them has peeling paint in almost the same spot on the rear hatch by the door handle. I think they had a problem with paint sticking to the material they made the panel out of.


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they all rust if exposed to moisture and salt
and keeping a vehicle in a garage is even worse

we had a 12 yr old Dakota, well known for rusting. ours was kept clean, outside all winter and had virtually no rust wen we traded it in at 150 thousand km

our '17 ram is washed regularly, added under coating, we expect to have it at least 10 years


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rhagfo wrote:

spud1957 wrote:

Look out Ford, Ram's coming after you.

https://driving.ca/ram/auto-news/news/ra........closer-to-ford-f-series-top-seller-title

I don't want to diminish the good news but some of the increase has to be related to deep discounts.

I looked at an F250 CCSB 6.7 Lariat at $73,000 with Family Pricing. A comparable Ram 2500 CCSB 6.7 Big Horn at $58,000.

Canadian prices.

I would strongly consider the Ram just based on price alone but you gotta luv the Cummins.


Not quite Apples to Apples, at least not the same variety. A Ford Lariat is equal to Ram Laramie, then within that trim level there are many option packages.


Okay.These are pretty well apple to apples.

2019 F250 XLT $69,000 vs $58,000 for the 2019 RAM Big Horn.

The Ram Big Horn is discounted $20,000. MRSP $78,000.
The Ford XLT is discounted $9,000. MRSP $78,000

So yes, they are applying some pretty deep discounts. Regardless of options and your wife likes both and you can get $20,000 off the list vs $9000, which would you choose?

Didn't look at the GMs. Not really interested them.

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dodge guy wrote:

midnightsadie wrote:

had a ram one time ,58k garage kept doors rusted about a foot up on each side ,ram said tuff cookie , never again.


Neighbor has a 2011 F150. The bed started rotting at 5 years old with 60k. It's now 8 years old and looks terrible. I guess Ford is OK with their product looking like that on the road. And my wife's 13 Explorer has paint peeling off the aluminum hood as well as the rear door inner seems starting to rust!

I'm done with Fords at this point!,,,


gee, I have a 97 F350 with no rust and I live in Michigan. All depends on how you maintain it, how often you wash it and if you wash it off on the underside and wheel wells.

Rust never sleeps but you can mitigate it with proper care. I've seen just as many Mopars with rusted out wheel wells on the bed as I have Ford's and Chevy's.

Fluid film helps too. But you have to use it and wash it to make it last.


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Look at it this way... As it rusts away your payload increases because the truck weighs less....

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