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Freeway Flyer 05

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Posted: 11/01/19 03:15pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Years ago, I hauled a 26' bumper pull TT with a 1500 4x4 Suburban up to the ski area every weekend. Never had to chain up or set a drag chain. Now, I am preparing to haul my bumper pull TH with my 4x4 diesel Dodge over 2 passes. Question is, on the truck, do I chain the front or rear axle while towing?

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Posted: 11/01/19 05:23pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Do what the law requires.


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Posted: 11/01/19 05:29pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Tuna’s advice is excellent! If the law isn’t specific, I chain the rear wheels of my 4x4 when towing...and the TT. If not towing, I chain the front.


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Posted: 11/01/19 05:40pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Most passes are cleared well to maintain travel, cross when clear. If chains are required find a place to park it's not a time to be driving. No reason to drive in that kind of weather, most 18 wheels park and they drive thousands of miles a month.


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Posted: 11/01/19 05:59pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I work on Donner summit in the winter and see RVs (but not many) going through chain control. Also most 18 wheelers do not park they chain up. As for your set up you can put good steel chains on the back wheels for better traction. Your trailer get a good set of cable chains. On Donner summit California 1-80 they won't let you through with our chains on truck and trailer. If was me I would wait out the storm!


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Posted: 11/01/19 06:31pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

In Washington, a 4x4 locked in gear does not need to have chains unless the signs are out for trucks to use chains. You must carry chains! Normally you would install when required on the rear drive axle and on the last braking axle of trailer.
https://www.wsdot.com/winter/tires-chains.htm


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I got caught in a freak snow storm with my new trailer (comong back from factory after repairs). After a night at a hotel we started out for the pass.

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Since no snow was predicted, I had no chains but I was amazed how well it pulled. These trucks are so heavy that they just claw along. I do have M/S tires that are only slightly aggressive.

In this pic, chains were required but I had none and frankly, there was no way to turn around.
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I still don't have any chains. Been in snow deep enough to push it with my bumper. Been in black ice and tracked fine, albeit slowly.

If I had chains AND NEEDED THEM, I'd put them on the back.


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Freeway Flyer 05

This site is wonderful at providing great and insightful information. However, you must decide for yourself what advice to follow.

I will try and provide information based on 40 years experience as a paramedic, sheriff’s department deputy/sergeant, and Assistant Chief deputy Coroner. I have lived and worked at 8000’ in the Eastern Sierra Mountains.

You are required to monitor the road conditions and equip your vehicle and adjust your driving to match the conditions you are encountering as you drive, period.

The turnable chain signs you come across while driving allows the State to adjust the “law” as conditions change. The authority to change these legal requirements is vested with Cal-trans and the CHP in California.

When chains are required for 2 WD vehicles you’ll notice a lower sign that will say “Carry Chains”. This requires “all” vehicles entering the chain control area to carry chains. You will need at least one set for the truck and one set for the trailer. If Cal-trans or CHP are manning a check point they may ask to see your chains. If you don’t have them you can be turned around, parked, or cited, at the officer's discretion.

In many conditions you can get your truck and trailer going with little effort without chains. However, contrary to many people’s belief the chains are not to get you moving they are for control. Chains are more important on your truck and trailer when attempting to brake or corner.

The last thing you want is a 15K-20K package sliding on ice while attempting to stop or turn to avoid an accident/object ahead. Likewise, having the truck chained and not the trailer will make for a wild ride when the truck is able to stop/turn but the trailer has no traction.

When I first locate to this area all 4X4’s chained the front axles. This provided positive steering and braking. I rarely see this anymore. Also, please inspect your vehicle to see where you have the most clearance should you break a chain while moving. ABS and other safety equipment can be damage by a flapping broken chain.

I would also suggest the idea of stopping in bad weather. One consideration is to get off the road and into a parking space such as a rest area or parking lot. If you stop along the roadway another clown without chains can lose control and slide into you.

Enjoy your winter travels as you enjoy the activities available during this time of year. Just plan on extra time and don’t be sorry, just chain up.

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Posted: 11/02/19 10:41am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Requirements will vary somewhat from state to state.
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Posted: 11/02/19 01:47pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

enblethen wrote:

In Washington, a 4x4 locked in gear does not need to have chains unless the signs are out for trucks to use chains. You must carry chains! Normally you would install when required on the rear drive axle and on the last braking axle of trailer.
https://www.wsdot.com/winter/tires-chains.htm

If your vehicle is over 10k lbs GVWR or you are towing, you must chain up in WA even if you have 4wd anytime chain controls are posted.

Typically a single drag chain on the trailer can be mounted on any wheel of any axle that has brakes. If your trailer does not have brakes, you must still mount a set of chains/cables to one wheel.


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