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Grit dog

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^Nevwr hauled big things in a pickup, eh?
Ragged edge?
You saw the pic on the same truck as yours but 20 years older, right?
I can assure you it was not on the ragged edge and your truck is vastly stronger in every way (except the engine is just as stout in the 2nd gen) than the 2nd gen.

But they make lots of smaller campers than that, so whatever you're comfortable with is the right one.


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Grit dog wrote:

^Nevwr hauled big things in a pickup, eh?
Ragged edge?
You saw the pic on the same truck as yours but 20 years older, right?
I can assure you it was not on the ragged edge and your truck is vastly stronger in every way (except the engine is just as stout in the 2nd gen) than the 2nd gen.

But they make lots of smaller campers than that, so whatever you're comfortable with is the right one.


Thanks, this has been tougher than picking out a toy hauler. The more I look at the AF 1140 the less I like it.

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Not saying you should or should not take a look at the 1140. When I showed my wife the 1140 on the internet she hated it. When we went and saw one in person we bought it after looking at several others. Our campers before, was a Jayco Talon toy hauler, Eagle Cap 960.
I do not like to shop but campers is one thing I would say take your time and shop/look around and compare.


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2017 Ram 3500 4x4 diesel with our old AF 1150. No issues at all and that was loaded for multi month use over rough roads. Truck was bone stock in first picture. Later added a sway bar and rancho adjustable shocks. Never felt like I was on a ragged edge. This truck is a beast.

Our new camper weighs in about 800 pounds more. We have about 30k now on the truck with either that AF or the Host on the back.



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Grit dog wrote:

^Nevwr hauled big things in a pickup, eh?
Ragged edge?
You saw the pic on the same truck as yours but 20 years older, right?
I can assure you it was not on the ragged edge and your truck is vastly stronger in every way (except the engine is just as stout in the 2nd gen) than the 2nd gen.

But they make lots of smaller campers than that, so whatever you're comfortable with is the right one.


Actually the AAM rear axle under a new Ram 3500 is rated at 10,120 pounds by AAM, and the Dana 80 under that 2nd gen Dodge is rated at 11,000 by Dana.

Most on here believe new trucks are heavier duty, that’s not necessarily so. They just put bigger numbers on the glovebox.
That 2nd gen 3500 is as stout as any pickup. That’s the same rear axle Ford used to use in the F450.

This is why I’m always telling everyone the so-called “ratings” are not gospel. They’re marketing hype, numbers not calculated by the engineering dept.
You have to look at the actual parts.


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av8rds wrote:

My buddy on the AF owners group on FB says his 2019 1140 is 6000lbs loaded for travel.


Yes, that sounds like a good number.

I loaded my Palomino for a 4 month trip to Alaska than went to the CAT scales for my weight. I immediately came home and removed 800# of stuff that I thought I might need, but got along just fine without it.

As it was, I still scaled out at 5300# of 'cargo' for the trip, 13,800 gross weight.

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burningman wrote:

Grit dog wrote:

^Nevwr hauled big things in a pickup, eh?
Ragged edge?
You saw the pic on the same truck as yours but 20 years older, right?
I can assure you it was not on the ragged edge and your truck is vastly stronger in every way (except the engine is just as stout in the 2nd gen) than the 2nd gen.

But they make lots of smaller campers than that, so whatever you're comfortable with is the right one.


Actually the AAM rear axle under a new Ram 3500 is rated at 10,120 pounds by AAM, and the Dana 80 under that 2nd gen Dodge is rated at 11,000 by Dana.

Most on here believe new trucks are heavier duty, that’s not necessarily so. They just put bigger numbers on the glovebox.
That 2nd gen 3500 is as stout as any pickup. That’s the same rear axle Ford used to use in the F450.

This is why I’m always telling everyone the so-called “ratings” are not gospel. They’re marketing hype, numbers not calculated by the engineering dept.
You have to look at the actual parts.


Yeah, I know the 2nd Gen springs and the D80 are every bit as heavy as a new truck, but it is necessarily so.
Not what the defenders of their old iron want to hear, but sorry, it's the truth. Not to say the older trucks aren't capable or that some components are just as strong, but seriously, frame, brakes, steering components, power, transmissions, driveshaft, etc, all stronger in a new truck.

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Riley01 wrote:

Grit dog wrote:

^Nevwr hauled big things in a pickup, eh?
Ragged edge?
You saw the pic on the same truck as yours but 20 years older, right?
I can assure you it was not on the ragged edge and your truck is vastly stronger in every way (except the engine is just as stout in the 2nd gen) than the 2nd gen.

But they make lots of smaller campers than that, so whatever you're comfortable with is the right one.


Thanks, this has been tougher than picking out a toy hauler. The more I look at the AF 1140 the less I like it.

Rick


Cause it's too heavy or due to the features?

Some folks kind of need to admit that driving, towing, mechanical things, just aren't their thing.
Something that is perfectly safe for one person would be a guaranteed catastrophe for someone else. Good to know your own limits for sure, but (not you) the day after day "claims" on this site about what is "safe" and what isn't.....with great personal conviction by some, get's tiresome.
More importantly, it spreads mis-information to all those that are asking honest questions. And the mis-information has, guaranteed, cost alot of people alot of money.

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burningman wrote:

This is why I’m always telling everyone the so-called “ratings” are not gospel. They’re marketing hype, numbers not calculated by the engineering dept.
You have to look at the actual parts.


Once again burningman nailed it..If everyone went by the stickers and glove box rating,we would be limited to pop up campers..I have showed newer Dodge DRW with as little as 2400# payload by there listed numbers and we all know that is not right..

Go directly to the axle or whatever manufacturer for the actual rating of said axle..Huge differences in most cases..


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Grit dog wrote:

Riley01 wrote:

Grit dog wrote:

^Nevwr hauled big things in a pickup, eh?
Ragged edge?
You saw the pic on the same truck as yours but 20 years older, right?
I can assure you it was not on the ragged edge and your truck is vastly stronger in every way (except the engine is just as stout in the 2nd gen) than the 2nd gen.

But they make lots of smaller campers than that, so whatever you're comfortable with is the right one.


Thanks, this has been tougher than picking out a toy hauler. The more I look at the AF 1140 the less I like it.

Rick


Cause it's too heavy or due to the features?



The features more than anything else. I've found a few others I like a little better. I found a 2019 Lance 1062 I liked but it has its own problems so I'm going to pass.

Edit: Actually I'm thinking I'm going to take a pass on the Lance campers altogether. I'm not too impressed with the quality.

Rick

* This post was edited 03/01/20 02:31pm by Riley01 *

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