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2oldman

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machunt wrote:

all i want to do is check my cord or my heater its self to see which is bad.
Ok, then get out your voltmeter, but I already replied with the easiest thing.

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There's really no way having it plugged in can make it harder to start.
If you're having to crank it more, you may have injector, HP pump or something else causing pressure issues.


I think he's just saying that it used to start easier (in the cold weather) plugged in but now does not. But didn't explain that very well...


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So your cord unplugs from the heater presumably (by your post)?
Unplug the cord form the heater, plug cord into power, test terminals on the end. If that's good, then it's the heating element.

So you're sure it's not working? Felt the heater/hose/engine at the heater after being plugged in and it's not warm, correct?

Asking because looking at the recent weather in Cincinnati, it hasn't been cold enough to even remotely need the block heater to aid in starting.
And your truck is not new. Are you sure the glow plugs are all working? More likely the problem than the coolant heater if it's starting hard.

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machunt wrote:

can we just stay on topic, all i want to do is check my cord or my heater its self to see which is bad. and i dont have a fancy plug with a element on it. just a simple 3 prong male plug


ON the first page, 2003Silverado gave you the answer.
Plug it in and look for a spark as you do so.

Are you not getting a spark? If you are, it's working.


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ScottG wrote:

machunt wrote:

can we just stay on topic, all i want to do is check my cord or my heater its self to see which is bad. and i dont have a fancy plug with a element on it. just a simple 3 prong male plug


ON the first page, 2003Silverado gave you the answer.
Plug it in and look for a spark as you do so.

Are you not getting a spark? If you are, it's working.


But if no spark , doesn't mean it isn't working!!!!!

for the 2003 that works. For later models, not a good indications. Somewhere between 204.5 and 2015 GM added a thermostat in the block heater circuit so it won't turn on above a certain temp, somewhere around freezing. So the plug in and check for a spark above that temps is going to head you in the wrong direction!!!!


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ktmrfs wrote:

ScottG wrote:

machunt wrote:

can we just stay on topic, all i want to do is check my cord or my heater its self to see which is bad. and i dont have a fancy plug with a element on it. just a simple 3 prong male plug


ON the first page, 2003Silverado gave you the answer.
Plug it in and look for a spark as you do so.

Are you not getting a spark? If you are, it's working.


But if no spark , doesn't mean it isn't working!!!!!

for the 2003 that works. For later models, not a good indications. Somewhere between 204.5 and 2015 GM added a thermostat in the block heater circuit so it won't turn on above a certain temp, somewhere around freezing. So the plug in and check for a spark above that temps is going to head you in the wrong direction!!!!


From what i can tell my 2013 may not have a t stat built in. mine has just the normal 3 prong plug, from pictures i see the stat is built into the plug correct?

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machunt wrote:

ktmrfs wrote:

ScottG wrote:

machunt wrote:

can we just stay on topic, all i want to do is check my cord or my heater its self to see which is bad. and i dont have a fancy plug with a element on it. just a simple 3 prong male plug


ON the first page, 2003Silverado gave you the answer.
Plug it in and look for a spark as you do so.

Are you not getting a spark? If you are, it's working.


But if no spark , doesn't mean it isn't working!!!!!

for the 2003 that works. For later models, not a good indications. Somewhere between 204.5 and 2015 GM added a thermostat in the block heater circuit so it won't turn on above a certain temp, somewhere around freezing. So the plug in and check for a spark above that temps is going to head you in the wrong direction!!!!


From what i can tell my 2013 may not have a t stat built in. mine has just the normal 3 prong plug, from pictures i see the stat is built into the plug correct?


I'd check your diesel suppliment owners manual. It should have the straight scoop on the thermostat and if it has one or not.

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duramax coolant heater on this era truck has a thermostat. Thermostat enables heater operation at 0 degrees F.

If you need PDF copies of your owners manual and duramax supplement -they are available at
https://my.chevrolet.com

You may need to register to access the duramax supplement.

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From what i can tell my 2013 may not have a t stat built in. mine has just the normal 3 prong plug, from pictures i see the stat is built into the plug correct?

2001-2016 do NOT have thermostatic control, 2017+ L5P engines do have thermostats. And are subject to a recall.


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So what's the deal mac?
Is it working? Are your glow plugs working?
Your block heater isn't what's making the truck hard to start in mild temperatures.

But then again, you haven't actually described the symptoms and are stuck on the block heater being bad, when that won't cause a hard start under your conditions. And a failed block heater is rare, unlike failed glow plugs.

Going to post more info or keep not addressing what you don't want to hear?

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