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bighatnohorse

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Posted: 04/06/20 07:52am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Due to a family medical emergency I had to return to Washington state from Arizona.
The fastest route due to potential weather problems was through California up Hwy 99 and 5
The only over-night stops I made were highway rest stops.
Lots of truckers and a few RV's in them - but all had space.

Noise at night was bad. Truckers start engines during the night. Some leave, some arrive.
500 miles a day for a 1510 mile drive - took three days.


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Posted: 04/06/20 12:20pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

There is no way that a Canadian Citizen is going to be denied entry into Canada. Period. The border is Federal jurisdiction and not Provincial. Even Quebec our self centered sibling cannot restrict the federal border!!

That said, we headed home from Gold Canyon, AZ to Cold Lake, Alberta as soon as it became apparent that both Canada and the USA were going to follow Italy and Spain with respect to infection rates. Many of our other Canadian friends were told by their out of country insurance that they would not be covered after Mar 23rd. Fortunately, my insurance told me that they would continue to cover us, but that was not my main concern.

My concern was with the availability of medical equipment in Canada and the US as the emergency progresses.

In the event that myself or my wife contracted pneumonia from Covid-19 or any other reason, I did not want to take up a respirator in the US. Can you imagine the scenario where there are 2 people who need respirators, but there is only one remaining and available. Would it be fair for me as a Canadian to have it and deny the US citizen in the bed next to me? How would his/her family react if a respirator was given to a Foreign national who has a home outside the US and his family member was allowed to die?

So my message to all Canadians, is to head back to your home where your tax dollars support the medical system. Leave US medical services to US citizens unless absolutely necessary.

When this is all over, we can all get back together a celebrate!!


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doxiemom11 wrote:

We and others we know are out here full-time and there is no shortage of open parks to stay at. Most state parks, corp of engineer and other public parks are closed, but most private parks are open. Most will want you to reserve and pay online or by phone. There is not the big problem many seem to think there is. Gas stations are open. Rest areas are open and if they weren't, there are still big parking lots at various places of closed businesses to stop. Walmart and grocery stores are open etc.

I'm also in Texas. I just put money down for 30 days at an RV park in Georgetown. While what you say is basically true, this private park and the one I was at last night are almost full. They had about 2 monthly spots available at each and a few daily spots. If Texas closes its state parks like the Chicken Little's in the media want these private parks will be jammed. The state parks that are open (about 20% are closed) were also pretty full in March.





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bjbear wrote:

There is no way that a Canadian Citizen is going to be denied entry into Canada. Period. The border is Federal jurisdiction and not Provincial. Even Quebec our self centered sibling cannot restrict the federal border!!


Agreed. The Border Agent did seem relieved to hear that we had a destination planned, and wouldn't be sitting in front of her any longer than necessary. I would assume they have a procedure to repatriate everyone, even the ones with no specific quarantine location, but we didn't ask. Even a Corrections Canada cell is inside the border.


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bjbear wrote:

There is no way that a Canadian Citizen is going to be denied entry into Canada. Period. The border is Federal jurisdiction and not Provincial. Even Quebec our self centered sibling cannot restrict the federal border!!

That said, we headed home from Gold Canyon, AZ to Cold Lake, Alberta as soon as it became apparent that both Canada and the USA were going to follow Italy and Spain with respect to infection rates. Many of our other Canadian friends were told by their out of country insurance that they would not be covered after Mar 23rd. Fortunately, my insurance told me that they would continue to cover us, but that was not my main concern.

My concern was with the availability of medical equipment in Canada and the US as the emergency progresses.

In the event that myself or my wife contracted pneumonia from Covid-19 or any other reason, I did not want to take up a respirator in the US. Can you imagine the scenario where there are 2 people who need respirators, but there is only one remaining and available. Would it be fair for me as a Canadian to have it and deny the US citizen in the bed next to me? How would his/her family react if a respirator was given to a Foreign national who has a home outside the US and his family member was allowed to die?

So my message to all Canadians, is to head back to your home where your tax dollars support the medical system. Leave US medical services to US citizens unless absolutely necessary.

When this is all over, we can all get back together a celebrate!!

If you both needed a ventilator at the same time, and their med insurance was in good standing and paying for it, you would be the one SOL. If you got there first, and your emergency medical coverage was willing to cover the costs, you'd get the ventilator. The US system is pay per use, you have the money, you get the treatment. Ours is single payer, get in line, wait.


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Posted: 04/06/20 05:14pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

DallasSteve - I guess it depends on how popular of an area you are in. There are lots of parks in smaller out of the way places that are not in snowbird territory.

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