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pasusan

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Posted: 04/09/20 05:05am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

MrWizard wrote:

Every covid virus infection

will cause more covid infections mitigation of the virus will cause less pain less agony less deaths, and in the long run , less financial ruin than uncontrolled chaos of retuning to work to soon
And peaking the cases to higher numbers
Yes people die of the flu every winter, but not in numbers that overload hospitals, which is the case right now
THIS is what it's all about. Flattening the curve to spare the hospitals and therefore more people's lives. We might all get it in the end - but if the contagion can be spread out we will be better off.


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troubledwaters wrote:

Lantley wrote:

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If a little suffering keeps a few more people alive so be it.
There are much worse tragedies than high unemployment and the stock market crash. Guess what they can take your money but they can't eat you!
Be glad you have your health! Be glad your alive!Nothing else really matters. Including , RV'S, money, Jobs etc.
Your health and your families health are top priority. Everything else is just stuff that is ultimately disposable.
Wow how profound!
I just have one question. Tens of thousands of people die every year from seasonal flu, why don't we shut this country down every year for 3 months?
After all, if a little suffering keeps a few more people alive it's worth it right?

The fact that you want to compare covid deaths to those created by the seasonal flu let me know that you don't fully understand what's happening and why the shut down has been put in place. Just for reference thousands don't die overnight from the flu


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Lantley wrote:

troubledwaters wrote:

Lantley wrote:

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If a little suffering keeps a few more people alive so be it.
There are much worse tragedies than high unemployment and the stock market crash. Guess what they can take your money but they can't eat you!
Be glad you have your health! Be glad your alive!Nothing else really matters. Including , RV'S, money, Jobs etc.
Your health and your families health are top priority. Everything else is just stuff that is ultimately disposable.
Wow how profound!
I just have one question. Tens of thousands of people die every year from seasonal flu, why don't we shut this country down every year for 3 months?
After all, if a little suffering keeps a few more people alive it's worth it right?

The fact that you want to compare covid deaths to those created by the seasonal flu let me know that you don't fully understand what's happening and why the shut down has been put in place. Just for reference thousands don't die overnight from the flu
Where in my post do you even see the mention of Covid or Coronavirus?
Real smooth dodge of the seasonal flu question I did ask however.
Your post was all about saving lives remember.
Tells me your "little suffering to save a few lives" falls on its face.

* This post was edited 04/09/20 06:11am by troubledwaters *

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I empathize with those that are financially impacted because of all this. It's unfortunate and there is no real upside to this pandemic. But I support many of these closures and quarantine methods because it's obvious some of you are too selfish and ignorant to keep from potentially killing others. You are the reason the government needs to step in. If you don't get it, you don't get it. Thank God we have intelligent scientists and for the most part, responsible state governments to compensate for those people.

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Remind me again which hospitals have been overwhelmed?





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pasusan wrote:

MrWizard wrote:

Every covid virus infection

will cause more covid infections mitigation of the virus will cause less pain less agony less deaths, and in the long run , less financial ruin than uncontrolled chaos of retuning to work to soon
And peaking the cases to higher numbers
Yes people die of the flu every winter, but not in numbers that overload hospitals, which is the case right now
THIS is what it's all about. Flattening the curve to spare the hospitals and therefore more people's lives. We might all get it in the end - but if the contagion can be spread out we will be better off.


Yes, the flattening of the curve is the goal of the stay at home orders and social distancing. And, as you stated, will help us avoid overloading the hospitals all at once. It is probably the right thing to do.

The morbid reality is that it is not intended to stop the virus in it's tracks. Flattening of the curve means dealing with the virus over a longer period of time so that hospitals can deal with the extreme cases so nobody dies just because they could not be treated. Stay at home orders will not eliminate deaths from this virus.

In order to stop the virus in it's tracks far more drastic measures would have to be taken.


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ExxWhy wrote:

Remind me again which hospitals have been overwhelmed?


You obviously have access to a computer or you wouldn't be on this forum, so I find it hard to believe you have no clear idea of what actually is going on.

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troubledwaters wrote:

Lantley wrote:

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If a little suffering keeps a few more people alive so be it.
There are much worse tragedies than high unemployment and the stock market crash. Guess what they can take your money but they can't eat you!
Be glad you have your health! Be glad your alive!Nothing else really matters. Including , RV'S, money, Jobs etc.
Your health and your families health are top priority. Everything else is just stuff that is ultimately disposable.
Wow how profound!
I just have one question. Tens of thousands of people die every year from seasonal flu, why don't we shut this country down every year for 3 months?
After all, if a little suffering keeps a few more people alive it's worth it right?

Let me say it again.................... stupid people do not get vaccinated against the flu. Go figure.


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ExxWhy wrote:

Remind me again which hospitals have been overwhelmed?

Well - here's one...

"Detroit hospital workers say people are dying in the ER hallways before help can arrive"

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Walaby wrote:

In terms of criteria to return to work, I think one of the first considerations should be the extent of the virus in a particular locale (city/county). Now, impossible really to quantify that properly without testing everyone. But, clearly, some locales are better off and less infected than others. My county has a population of 157,000(ish) and currently has 96 confirmed cases, with 6 deaths. If those numbers stay, or start downward, then I would suggest that a locale like that can be a candidate for reopening sooner rather than later.

Clearly major cities are not going to be able to open as quickly as smaller population areas. BUT, do we, as a nation, make everyone abide by the criteria applied to large and densely populated areas? I would submit the answer should be no.

Mike

While this looks good on the surface, all it would take would be one out of town traveler stopping for gas in your county, and everything could start again.

This is not going to end in the next few months. We may go back to work and out to eat but people are still going to get sick. Right know it is hitting the large cities the hardest. Not overwhelming the Hospitals in those cities is the key to keeping deaths lower. And once it is slowed in the cities it will spread to the suburbs and out into the country. And then those people will have their turn in the cities hospitals. Because there are not many hospitals out in the country.


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