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BCSnob

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Posted: 04/17/20 09:11pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

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2009 H1N1 influenza summer activity peaked in the United States during May and June

CDC: 2009 H1N1 Timeline
Another novel influenza strain that didn’t die out in the summer.

So what was common about these “summer” influenzas: there were novel strains (no herd immunity).

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Turtle n Peeps wrote:


What current data? Link me up. Show me your data and where it's coming from.

CV19 is very close to the flu virus. It IS a virus. All viruses in the past have died out in the summer. Ever hear of the flu season? This is why you hear this statement.

So let me get this straight. You think that this is the ONLY virus that won't die out in the summer? The only one? Is that what you are saying?


Summer flu outbreak of 1918 may have pro........ protection against lethal fall pandemic

Oh look a summer outbreak of a novel flu strain; I thought someone said they all die out in the summer

Did you read the article? Dying out doesn’t have to me completely gone but rather becomes insignificant. The 1918 summer “wave” was a fraction as lethal and widespread compared to the fall one. In other words if history teaches us anything maybe it’s a good time to let some of this run it’s course. The spread is significantly slower not because “it’s warm out” but because people get out of their confined spaces more and likely the output of their sneezes dry faster on surfaces.

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Here is some more bad news for you doom and gloomers. This chart is from the CDC. It shows the flu season for almost 40 years of data collection. The flu season is going to end in very short order according to the CDC's own data collected over a long period of time.

CV19 along with the other flu viruses will crash very soon.

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According to your prediction that C19 is same as common flu the effect has already ended. Virtually no more new cases.

Or maybe C19 is different?


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Posted: 04/18/20 05:23am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

wnjj wrote:

BCSnob wrote:

Turtle n Peeps wrote:


What current data? Link me up. Show me your data and where it's coming from.

CV19 is very close to the flu virus. It IS a virus. All viruses in the past have died out in the summer. Ever hear of the flu season? This is why you hear this statement.

So let me get this straight. You think that this is the ONLY virus that won't die out in the summer? The only one? Is that what you are saying?


Summer flu outbreak of 1918 may have pro........ protection against lethal fall pandemic

Oh look a summer outbreak of a novel flu strain; I thought someone said they all die out in the summer

Did you read the article? Dying out doesn’t have to me completely gone but rather becomes insignificant. The 1918 summer “wave” was a fraction as lethal and widespread compared to the fall one. In other words if history teaches us anything maybe it’s a good time to let some of this run it’s course. The spread is significantly slower not because “it’s warm out” but because people get out of their confined spaces more and likely the output of their sneezes dry faster on surfaces.
Go read how some of the other influenza pandemics had peak infection rates in the summer. Every virus does not “act” the same as the others. The Spanish flu did spread in the summer; not as bad as the next winter after experts believe it had undergone “drift” and came back more deadly (mentioned in this article and discussed in other article about this pandemic).

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The Copenhagen summer wave may have been caused by a precursor pandemic virus that transmitted efficiently - but lacked extreme virulence - according to the authors


We can hope covid-19 infection rates will wane in the summer months but I wouldn’t count on it. The covid-19 infection is just starting to spread into the more rural central parts of the US.

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N Korea is free from the virus. China has almost no new cases. [emoticon]

I highly suggest those who would flee a dangerous place like Texas to not stop running until you get to one of those safe places.

Fortunately for the rest of us, things seem like they are going to start moving at a glacial pace. But at least it's moving towards reopening. Hope it's not too late. [emoticon]





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I see Texas will be the first state to partially open "stuff" next week.
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Georgia state parks are still open for camping. Have never closed.

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Posted: 04/18/20 07:57am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

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I see Texas will be the first state to partially open "stuff" next week.
bumpy


That is where this whole thread started. They know how to do what the President wants in the Lone Star State. We have been wanting to go camping in Central Texas for a month now.

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Turtle n Peeps wrote:

RambleOnNW wrote:

BCSnob wrote:

Turtle n Peeps wrote:


What current data? Link me up. Show me your data and where it's coming from.

CV19 is very close to the flu virus. It IS a virus. All viruses in the past have died out in the summer. Ever hear of the flu season? This is why you hear this statement.

So let me get this straight. You think that this is the ONLY virus that won't die out in the summer? The only one? Is that what you are saying?


Summer flu outbreak of 1918 may have pro........ protection against lethal fall pandemic

A summer outbreak of a novel flu strain; I thought someone said they all die out in the summer


Check Australia also. Covid-19 arrived on Jan. 20th in Victoria, Australia and grew exponentially while the high temperatures were up to 95F.



Australia has 65 deaths from CV19. 65!!!
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For Christ sake, coconuts falling from trees kill more people!
Dang, now I have to cross tropical islands off my ever shrinking travel list. Perhaps in the interest of saving American lives we can kick Hawaii out of the Union. That way when a coconut kills a Hawaiian, it won't be the death of an American.

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Y'all can make childish jokes about coconuts, but when a virus created in a secret laboratory next hits us, we might want to be prepared. Enjoy your jokes, but the 37,000 who have died from Covid-19 can't laugh with you.

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