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Cummins12V98 wrote:

BB_TX wrote:

Since you are going to replace the pin box, replace it with an air ride pin box, either 5th Airborne or Trailair.
Lots of very good hitches. I prefer the type with the wrap around jaw that encircles the pin. I have a Reese Elite that works great. Pullrite also has one.


I assume you have not owned a B&W with 1" thick machined jaws that fully close around the kingpin???

Look at the geometry of the 5th airborne and the TrailAir. TA is a more up and down motion, 5th is an angular motion.

And I assume you have not owned a Reese Elite with a 1” thick jaw that wraps around and encircles the pin. With the handle latched and pinned there is no chance of coming unhitched.

Can’t speak for the Trailair but I can say that I can watch my 5th Airborne in my rear view mirror and see the pin box moving up and down due to the rocking motion of the pin box as it softens the tide. But I assume you have never owned of of those either.

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My recommendation is the B&W; great hitch and great company. With the wrap-around jaws, you wouldn't need to replace the pin box...unless you wanted to go with one that's shock absorbing.

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laknox wrote:

My recommendation is the B&W; great hitch and great company. With the wrap-around jaws, you wouldn't need to replace the pin box...unless you wanted to go with one that's shock absorbing.

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BB_TX wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

BB_TX wrote:

Since you are going to replace the pin box, replace it with an air ride pin box, either 5th Airborne or Trailair.
Lots of very good hitches. I prefer the type with the wrap around jaw that encircles the pin. I have a Reese Elite that works great. Pullrite also has one.


I assume you have not owned a B&W with 1" thick machined jaws that fully close around the kingpin???

Look at the geometry of the 5th airborne and the TrailAir. TA is a more up and down motion, 5th is an angular motion.

And I assume you have not owned a Reese Elite with a 1” thick jaw that wraps around and encircles the pin. With the handle latched and pinned there is no chance of coming unhitched.

Can’t speak for the Trailair but I can say that I can watch my 5th Airborne in my rear view mirror and see the pin box moving up and down due to the rocking motion of the pin box as it softens the tide. But I assume you have never owned of of those either.


I can't say one way or the other on the pin boxes mentioned, other then the OP's fifth wheel doesn't appear to need either pin box its not that heavy of a fifth wheel . MorRyde would do nicely.

As far as the Reese ,have made the same argument with the B&W fan club for a few years now. I also tow with the Reese, same head as the Elite, 1" wrap around jaw, no doubt when its closed ,and no doubt when pinned thats its staying closed .

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Regardless of what you buy prevent the same problem by lubricating the pin. I use a graphite spray on mine. Others use grease.


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Depends on the wire hardness used with a tig or mig. Also depends on what number stick rods is used. Some are hard and some are soft material.
Personally I would rather tig it that way your not presenting lots of heat. A experienced welder with all three can tell you which method will achieve the result your looking for. A friend with a welding machine may not have that type of experience.

There are five or so good RV type 5th wheel hitches to choose from. You won't go wrong with any of them.


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goducks10 wrote:

I would go Reese Goosebox since you have the OEM puck system.
No dealing with a 5th hitch.


Goosebox won't fit my frame. They are designed for 12" attachments, mine is a 14". My pin box was made by Leland who made them 14" wide rather than 12".


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BB_TX wrote:

Since you are going to replace the pin box, replace it with an air ride pin box, either 5th Airborne or Trailair.
Lots of very good hitches. I prefer the type with the wrap around jaw that encircles the pin. I have a Reese Elite that works great. Pullrite also has one.


Found out today that the 5th Airborne no longer available.

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allen8106 wrote:

BB_TX wrote:

Since you are going to replace the pin box, replace it with an air ride pin box, either 5th Airborne or Trailair.
Lots of very good hitches. I prefer the type with the wrap around jaw that encircles the pin. I have a Reese Elite that works great. Pullrite also has one.


Found out today that the 5th Airborne no longer available.


Where did you see this? I just looked at Reese's website and they are still showing it as being avail/made. I have the 5th AB and love it. Oh, have a B&W Patriot as well and love it too.


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