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Posted: 05/03/20 06:34pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Ron3rd wrote:

Don't know about China but you can get any level of quality you're willing to pay for in Taiwan. Taiwan is not China, not even close.
Actually it's not that far away, about 100 miles, and "the Republic of China (commonly referred to as Taiwan)". [emoticon]


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profdant139 wrote:

Speaking of wrenches, has anyone else noticed that not all wrenches are truly sized the same?? I have some newer open-end wrenches that are marked as 7/16 (for quarter inch bolts) that seem to be "sloppy" -- they are fractionally too loose. Am I dreaming, or is that really true?

I don't have a micrometer to measure the perceived sloppiness.

The last 1/4" bolts I bought had smaller metric heads.

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fj12ryder wrote:

Ron3rd wrote:

Don't know about China but you can get any level of quality you're willing to pay for in Taiwan. Taiwan is not China, not even close.
Actually it's not that far away, about 100 miles, and "the Republic of China (commonly referred to as Taiwan)". [emoticon]


True but they've different countries. Taiwan is a democracy and US ally. We all know about China.

I worked for a company that manufacturered parts in Taiwan for 15 years and there is no difference in quality if you're willing to pay for it. For the most part, materials like steel or billet aluminum are actually more expensive in Taiwan but the labor cost and overhead is much less even afteryou pay to ship it here. But a lot of companies bailed on Taiwan and went to China for lower cost and in the process unfortunately educated the Chinese on how to manufacture. Now if you want to argue everything should be made in USA that's a different discussion.

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Rustofer wrote:

profdant139 wrote:

Speaking of wrenches, has anyone else noticed that not all wrenches are truly sized the same?? I have some newer open-end wrenches that are marked as 7/16 (for quarter inch bolts) that seem to be "sloppy" -- they are fractionally too loose. Am I dreaming, or is that really true?

I don't have a micrometer to measure the perceived sloppiness.

The last 1/4" bolts I bought had smaller metric heads.
Smaller than what? A 7/16" bolt head is 11.1 mm. So a 11 mm bolt head is 0.004" smaller than a 7/16" bolt head. So an 11 mm wrench will fit on a 7/16" bolt/nut.

It's very unlikely that you bought an SAE bolt with a metric head.

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Smaller than 7/16". I'm talking about 1/4" bolts with 10mm heads.

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Smaller than 7/16". I'm talking about 1/4" bolts with 10mm heads.
No offense, but I really would have to see it to believe it. A 1/4-20 SAE thread with a 10mm head? Seeing is believing.

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Like I have posted dozens of times

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Not the person

Whenever I encounter a post that demeans someone 99%, of what that poster wrote becomes invalid and highly suspicious thereafter.

I like to see curiosity and hard data. Opinions bring forth counter opinions.

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OTC is another good brand of tool but usually special purpose. Greenlee is fabulous. Seems from reviews that the quality of Stant cooling system pressure checkers has slipped. I had a PROTO single bar puller with several sets of jaws that was phenomenal. Learned early on to use good quality grease on the stem threads. Seems like too much stuff has declined in quality the way last 20 years. I can vouch for WiHa screwdrivers and impact screwdriver bits. They are as good as anything I have ever used in my life. Their bolstered screwdrivers are simply incredible. Bolstered means the shaft passes up through the handle and has a metal cap to pound on.

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Fj12 Ryder

I have seen 1/4" x 20 bolts for tubular exhaust headers with 5/16" hex heads. 8mm wrench can be substituted. Can this possibly be the answer?

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