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hypoxia

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Posted: 05/02/20 07:07am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

MEXICOWANDERER wrote:

I have used both and in my opinion the comparison is night and day.

Some stores like Auto Zone carry TAIWAN mechanic's tools

And then there is MEANWELL power supplies versus mainland garbage

Yes I am angry

My hand is bandaged

A mainland ratchet stripped it's brand new teeth and my hand gashed across a 4" hole saw. The ratchet was brand new.

I am going to STRIP every Mainland China hand tool and into the garbage it goes. Don't get smartass about branded tools. I am talking about Made In China unbranded hand tools

I have a Snap On ratchet that broke a tooth but my mother told me to always keep the hole saw at a distance so I wouldn't get hurt. She was right, I just busted my knuckles.[emoticon]


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MEXICOWANDERER wrote:

I was probably exerting ten pounds feet at the time. The mandrel screw is quite small. Down here I do not have the option of finding many types of tools. Mexicans love 1/2" drive e stuff.

Over the last sixty years i have used a lot of hand tools building ten thousand plus alternators

I never encountered an utter failure like this one. My precious set of Unbrako allen wrenches had 4140 tube cheaters but the set was borrowed forever.
I always shied away from Unbrako wrenches just because of the name. I preferred Allen and Craftsman, plus Bondhus for the angled wrenches. However I have used Unbrako and found the quality first rate, although I felt they were a little soft and sometimes bent. But they never rounded out a bolt.


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I share your frustration with lousey tools. But what I'm worried about is how I usually get my older, quality, USA made stuff. Flea markets - Gonna miss them...

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fj12ryder wrote:

Dunno about Craftsman tools recently, as I still have 90% of the Craftsman hand tools I bought back in the 70's. Used them every day at work.


Heck... When we were in our teens, the First Credit Card for everyone was Sears as they would give one to anybody... Get that card, buy tools and build credit...

Yup, my hand tools are Craftsman circa 70's -early 80's . . with a few exceptions.... Like the few snap On's I have from when I worked at the gas station, and drove for AAA...

Back when Craftsman was GOOD.......


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The red-headed step child back then was POW R CRAFT

Anyone else remember where they came from?

The strongest tools I have ever used are from WiHa. Ugly to a fault but their fit to a European metric fastener is awesome

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MEXICOWANDERER wrote:

The red-headed step child back then was POW R CRAFT

Anyone else remember where they came from?

The strongest tools I have ever used are from WiHa. Ugly to a fault but their fit to a European metric fastener is awesome

I think the Pow R Craft was from Montgomery Wards.
Barney

Edit: I was close. Wards Powr-Kraft


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Well, Mex, I'm just glad to see that you are still in one piece and healthy enough to post! Hang in there, and stay safe.

And back on topic, I am sort of surprised that the Chinese government doesn't have something like OSHA enforcing safety and quality standards. The Chinese are fully aware of the value of "branding" (as well as the costs imposed by bad reputations). And they are a dictatorship, able to strictly quarantine 50 million people at a moment's notice. (We all remember those shocking videos of doors being welded shut in Wuhan during early February.)

So putting those two issues together (marketing savvy and a command economy), why would their government tolerate the continued production of substandard merchandise? I just don't understand it. It is so short-sighted. If I were an absolute dictator of a manufacturing nation, I'd ensure decent quality control.

Otherwise, the country's reputation becomes so bad that consumers of (e.g.) power tools and hand tools will shun Chinese products. That is exactly what is happening now. And the same thing applies to pharmaceuticals. And medical devices. And so on.

There was a time, long ago, when "Made in Japan" was a mark of inferiority. Not any more. China should learn from that example, right??


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Back then the store was commonly called "Monkey Wards"

Sears, original Die Hard batteries on the west coast were made by GLOBE UNION In Oregon. They were IMHO excellent.

Because my family is a thousand miles distant I have to do my own shopping and public exposure. Even with all my protective gear I figure I have as much as a 50-50 chance of making it through August. Too many negatives to believe I will survive contaigion. Been a good ride [emoticon]

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Back in the early 70s while working at a gas station, the Proto tool truck drove in. I bought the full rollaway, the works. Five years of payments and fifty years later I still have every one... I did wear out a 1/2" deep wall socket though.


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MEXICOWANDERER wrote:

Back then the store was commonly called "Monkey Wards"

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Yep, that's what we call it! [emoticon]
Also concur on the Die Hard batteries.
Barney

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