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BurbMan

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Posted: 05/11/20 08:43am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

So, I've started the process of looking for a new truck to replace the Suburban. The mighty Burb only had 186k on the clock and the 8.1 still runs strong, but we sold the TT a few weeks ago and am now working on restoring a Lance 811 Truck Camper. I know I'll be hauling and not towing, but the truck guys seem to hang here mostly. [emoticon]rgreen:

Anyway, with the camper at 3k lbs wet, I'm looking 1-ton 3500 SRW long bed crew cabs. Seems like the long bed is hard to find, and a lot of them have diesels. My $40k budget seems to put me in 2015-2017 territory.

I really don't want/need a diesel to haul around a TC, but I'm not opposed to the idea either if the truck is nice and the price is right. The diesels I've seen are higher mileage and past factory warranty (even though sold by a dealer) and I'm leery of getting one that's been chipped and abused. Is there a way to tell?


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Jacked up, tires that stick out 8 inches past the fender wells, straight pipe that ends in a 12 inch diameter chrome muffler extension, brass goulies hanging from the hitch, 3 rows of LED lights. Inside looks for the extra gauges for exhaust temp, turbo boost, trans oil temp, etc.

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Long story short; No.

In general, modders like to mod other things like lift kits and big tires and rims ect. I would stay away from a truck that has those things.


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I believe that most of the time the vehicle ( especially the newer models) can be put on a diagnostic machine, and determine “if” it is or has been “chipped”! “Chipped” or not, a thorough test, via a diagnostic test may be a good “ feel good” thing to do! memtb


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memtb wrote:

I believe that most of the time the vehicle ( especially the newer models) can be put on a diagnostic machine, and determine “if” it is or has been “chipped”! “Chipped” or not, a thorough test, via a diagnostic test may be a good “ feel good” thing to do! memtb


Unless the ecm has been replaced with the one that chipped. The the original put back on for sale.


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BurbMan wrote:

...working on restoring a Lance 811 Truck Camper....at 3k lbs wet, I'm looking 1-ton 3500 SRW long bed crew cabs. Seems like the long bed is hard to find, and a lot of them have diesels. My $40k budget seems to put me in 2015-2017 territory.

I really don't want/need a diesel to haul around a TC, but I'm not opposed to the idea either if the truck is nice and the price is right. The diesels I've seen are higher mileage and past factory warranty (even though sold by a dealer) and I'm leery of getting one that's been chipped and abused. Is there a way to tell?

If you're looking at dealer vehicles then ask them to plug into the truck and show you a report. If the ECM has been flashed by a tuner the software version won't line up with the OEM revision and you'll know instantly. If that vehicle is out of warranty it wouldn't really matter, but at least you'd know.

I would imagine any dealer sold vehicle should have all the OEM emissions equipment in tact. On my Ram the DPF/SCR/DEF system has worked just fine, but I know some other users of all brands have had some issues.

Also, do a recall search on any vehicle you're researching: NHTSA VIN Search You'll be able to see what recalls have been on the vehicle and if they've been completed. My truck had 16 different recalls, but to me it's not a big deal. I took it to the dealer, they did the repair for free, and I drove off happy.

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Electronic diagnostics will tell you.
chips advance the timing, change shift points, etc.
A good machine will be able to tell.

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Dont know how strict you are on the $40k but most brands are now offering a lot of incentives as well as 0% financing, a quick check up your way found this Chevy. S-3500
May be worth exploring the numbers with the cheap finance offers.

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Posted: 05/11/20 09:50am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Thanks guys, good info

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