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Grit dog

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Posted: 05/15/20 09:19am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

OP, so many folks who don’t know jack about brakes or mechanics responding with their uneducated opinions it’s hard to wade through for a person who is asking the question.....
Personally, I refrain from handing out advice on things that I’m not well read on. Some of y’all should consider the same!


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Sounds to me like it was a trailbraking scenario and you didn't realize it in the heat of the moment. Get the truck checked, but don't chase your tail too much over this.


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How much do you drive the truck unloaded vs. loaded?
If mostly unloaded and you load the camper and slam on the brakes, the piston in the caliper is travelling to a spot it likely has never been before. It doesn't take much for the piston o-ring to grab or lock onto a bit of trash.
How does the truck handle braking now? Does it feel like it is pulling to the side?
Did you have a recall on the front suspension, to align it then weld it in place?


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lakeside013104 wrote:


Understood, but with respect, you are allowing the traffic to dictate how you drive and 'push' you into an unsafe situation. You are trying to make an excuse for why you were in the position of needing to do the hard braking that you did.
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Please read what I said in my post again. I said that I was driving 65 mph or less when the braking incident happened. Then as an aside I mentioned that I know this because I always drive 65 mph or less unless in heavy traffic.

As far as going faster because of heavy traffic. At times it can be a trade off of increasing speed or having a line of cars in back of you all trying to swerve into the left lane around you. There is danger either way, going faster versus unsafe drivers around you.

I don't know, I assume that speeding up to 70 or 75 in the right lane on a highway to keep up with traffic isn't unsafe. Is it? I have a dually truck with a lightweight camper and the truck handles fine up at 70 or 75. I more stick to 65 because of gas mileage. I find that the jump from 55 mph to 60 to 65 definitely hurts gas mileage. Going over 65 and gas mileage really tanks. If I am on an empty interstate I have chosen 62 mph as a sweet spot, or if I am in no hurry I may just go 55 mph and save some gas.


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TxGearhead wrote:

How much do you drive the truck unloaded vs. loaded?
If mostly unloaded and you load the camper and slam on the brakes, the piston in the caliper is travelling to a spot it likely has never been before. It doesn't take much for the piston o-ring to grab or lock onto a bit of trash.
How does the truck handle braking now? Does it feel like it is pulling to the side?
Did you have a recall on the front suspension, to align it then weld it in place?


The miles on the truck are 96% loaded (and almost all highway) and 4% unloaded, so this might be a good theory. The braking handling other then this one incident is fine (good, never a problem). No pulling to the side. There has been no front suspension recall.

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Have the brakes ever been serviced? If not you are way overdue at that year and mileage. I have similar mileage on my ‘17 and they have been serviced twice. The manual recommends brake service every 20k miles, more under heavy duty use.


Was this 20k miles of highway, city, or mixed? I have 42k miles almost all highway. I am surprised you need brake service every 20k miles. The RAM manual says to check the brake pads every 20k but I have been googling brake work and that 20K is a check but pads usually last longer than 20k.

Also from my recent google reading "brake service" can mean many things. New pads, or add rotor, or add caliber. Possibly bleeding and replacing fluid. What service have you needed?

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Well the truck is back from the dealer and I can report results. I was told the mechanic inspected the brakes and there is plenty of life on the pads (10mm) and the brakes are functioning properly. So they did no service.

I had said might as well rotate tires but only if you need to remove the tires to check the brakes, otherwise the tires are not due for rotation. I was told they did not need to remove the tires. That they were able to inspect the brakes without removing the tires. This surprises me. I thought tires needed to be removed to inspect brakes.

So the braking incident remains a mystery. Several theories were presented in the responses here that it could have been an anomaly. I will do as some suggested to find some open road and try some hard braking to see if I can reproduce the problem.

* This post was edited 05/16/20 02:48am by bobbolotune *

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I agree that you might need a different shop. For brakes/tires, you might consider a major tire outlet that has a great reputation if you can’t find a good mechanic otherwise.


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camp-n-family wrote:

Have the brakes ever been serviced? If not you are way overdue at that year and mileage. I have similar mileage on my ‘17 and they have been serviced twice. The manual recommends brake service every 20k miles, more under heavy duty use.


What do they do every 20,000 miles when they service your brakes??

My 2011 has 212,000 miles on it and its still running the factory brakes.


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Double post

* This post was edited 05/15/20 10:03pm by camp-n-family *


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