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colliehauler

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Posted: 06/11/20 06:45pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Just curious what rpm are you running going up the hill?

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Posted: 06/11/20 08:11pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Why not get an older double cab duramax. It will fit the family and have some power. My 2002 is still going strong.


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Posted: 06/11/20 08:12pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

If you can find an excursion with the 7.3 diesel it would be perfect. The bad thing is they are stupid expensive. But there is nothing else like them available. They also had 6.0 diesels, they have some issues, so read up on those.


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If you keep your LOADED trailer weight under 8,000 lbs AND move all of the cargo to the trailer, an EcoBoost Expedition with a 6 speed is a viable option. It MUST have the HD trailer tow option (HD radiator, HD transmission cooler, trailer brake wiring and possibly a built in trailer brake controller, and a higher rear axle.

We have put 4 adults and 4 kids under 12 in one for short trips.

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My 02 V10 X towed my 35ft 9300lb loaded TT with no issues. I did swap from 3.73 to 4.30 which mde a huge difference in towing. After that the final thing I did was get custom tunes from 5 star. between those 2 things alone it really woke up the V-10! it sounds like you have 3.73`s. the 3.73`s are good fot running around empty with the kids, but not for towing. I never had a problem running the posted speed limit up a mointain. in fact I could accelrate up the mountain around slower moving traffic!


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What about 4.56's or 4.88's? The Excursion is a big beast and anything you can do will be of benefit. I was at the tail end of my car sales career during the last few years of production. They were quite popular with the military contractors like Blackwater and such that would get them retrofitted with armor plating and then send them over to Iraq.
They were the poster child for the enviromentalists about how they were destroying the world, but they did serve a need if you needed to tote a lot of people around. The 7.3 diesels still bring STUPID money if they're in any kind of decent shape.


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Grapevine is tough for the grade and altitude. Any naturally aspirated engine will be singing up there. The 7.3L Ford diesel will be a little better, but it is very much lower power with close to same torque as the V10. Fuel usage will be lower/better. [emoticon] Power and speed wise I think will be tough to show significant improvement over the V10 under $20k.

Would you consider a full sized van? 2011+ GM 1-ton passenger van with 6.0l/6-spd should be well under $20k with under 100k miles. That 6-spd is really helps keep engine in powerband. An Example


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A stock 7.3 diesel won't really out pull any newer big gasser. Only get better mileage doing it.
Dumping a bunch of money into an old vehicle to make it marginally better is an act of futility and generally not frugality (see what I did there...?).
Also spending "all" your budget on an old vehicle is a bad decision unless your other budget includes $ for repairs.
All 4 kids are now over 16 it appears, so are they really all going on trips with you? Doesn't seem likely unless they're 16 and quadruplets, lol. Truck may work but those are as expensive or more than comparable SUVs.
Something was wrong with the Excursion or your remembrance of the old burb was skewed. Have had both drivetrains. Early 2000s V10 Triton smokes an early 2000s 5.3 towing.
There are good $10k V10 Excursons out there. You started the same thread asking the same question as the one below this one. Did you read it? But excursions are more rare than good 3/4 on suburbans now. But there's a fair number of low or lowish mile 3/4 burbs out there too. At least up here there is. If you wan the right vehicle you may need to search geographically further away.

BUT after all that, why are you looking for a bigger rig if you were happy with the old 1/2 ton Burb save for its power on the grapevine and similar?
1/2 ton Tahoe/Yukon and Burbs are literally dime a dozen. Not hard to find a low mile older one. And if you step up to the late 2000s you can get a 6.0 or 6.2 6 speed burb 1/2 or 3/4 or Denali which will either be heavy duty or have 400hp if you get the 6.2.

The something else is a van or a pickup. You won't get the power out of a van for the most part you could out of a Denali. And you will be driving a van the rest of the year when you're not towing. Real question is, do you want to look like a contractor/creeper in a van or a soccer mom, going to the grocery store?


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