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BFL13

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Posted: 07/04/20 09:10pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

My ugly graph says starting at 70 amps, by 72% SOC he should be seeing 55 amps and tapering. He would not see 13 amps until around 88% SOC

So he is right that something is out of whack.


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He gave the correct answer......

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Posted: 07/05/20 11:59am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Ok so I will give them a full charge and monitor them next week when I go back to the job site. Just for giggles I checked the other two T-105s that were charged and have been sitting for about two weeks. They where at 6.36 volts and a specific gravity of about 1.325.

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Have you cleared up the 13 amp mystery?

BTW, if not fitted now, the wires from the 75 amper should be #4 or you can choke off some amps. I saw that with a 55 amper that did 55 amps with #8 but did 60 amps with #4. Most converters can do a little better than their ratings given a chance.

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BFL13 wrote:

Have you cleared up the 13 amp mystery?

BTW, if not fitted now, the wires from the 75 amper should be #4 or you can choke off some amps. I saw that with a 55 amper that did 55 amps with #8 but did 60 amps with #4. Most converters can do a little better than their ratings given a chance.


No but I am using about 6’ of #8 which is the smallest recommended in the instructions so that could be part of it.

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A pair of gc-2s at a rested 12.38v, which only require 13 amps to be nearly instantly brought to 14.68v, are sulfated.

If they were healthy, I'd expect it to take at least 45 minutes or more for amps to taper to that level with 75 amps of charger available seeking 14.68v.

The hydrometer will reveal the truth, and you can then ask about or search for recovery procedures which might or might not be effective, depending on how hard the sulfation is.

I've a newish healthy single group 31 TPPL AGM and 134 amps of plug in charging source, at 11.90v starting point, 134 amps was not enough to achieve 14.7v at battery terminals instantly. The breaker blew and then 'only' 94 amps still took nearly 10 minutes to bring the voltage to 14.7v at which point amps started tapering.

This is a powermax adjustable voltage 100 amp model, and low input voltage is responsible for 94 amps instead of 100. A new 12AWG extension cord and it made 98 amps. I had it in parallel with my 40 amp Meanwell for those 134 amps into a depleted but healthy group 31 TPPl AGM.

How many amps it takes to bring a battery to a certain voltage is indicative of state of charge and state of health of that battery, and the more experience with that charging source on that battery, the better.

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Posted: 07/12/20 09:24pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

So can they be sulphated when they are new and only have 2 Charge cycles On them?

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I wouldn't think so.

Something's not right with the batteries or your measurement tools.

New Batteries do behave weird the first few cycles in my experience, but not that weird.

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Posted: 07/12/20 11:30pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

My old abused (soon to be replaced GC pair)
Will take 38 amps easily
Even at 12.3 they will take 30+ amps
And the main wire run from converter to the BBC is no bigger than 8ga and might be only 10ga
I have a 1 Volt drop between converter and the GC pair up front behind the grill


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Posted: 07/13/20 03:27am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

A hydrometer dip would quickly end ouija board seance and crystal ball guesswork.

Unless you delight in "the Butler Did it" drama..

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