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Grit dog

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Posted: 07/10/20 03:08pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

^Agree, except never had a full size suv until last year.
Given the choice I’d take a crew cab with a 5’ bed and topper in place of an suv.
The one thing I loved about the Tahoe (sold it recently) is that it’s big stable and cushy like a 1/2 ton truck but considerably shorter, this more maneuverable.
Payload max is debateable. Age old argument, and softer rear springs are the real Achilles heel. The rest of the suv is not maxed out at the rated payload by a long shot. And many suvs are more difficult or not possible to upgrade suspension easily or economically.
If my goal was to have the best trailer hauler I’d go pickup. Best mall crawler or need 3rd row seats, suv.


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jerem0621 wrote:

Out of the box the Armada if you get the lower profile tires and IRS will handle the trailer better.

The Tahoe will handle like garbage with the squishy tires GM puts on them.

However,some stiffer LT tires and a perfectly installed WD hitch... Possibly some better tuned shocks and the Tahoe does pretty good.

Mine took some fiddling but it handles great now (like it's on rails)

Thanks and good luck!

Jeremiah
what is a squishy tire? thought all tires were squishy?

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Posted: 07/10/20 04:23pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Campfire Time wrote:


I always avoided PUs. I loved my Suburbans. But now that I have a crew cab truck, I can't imagine going back to a big SUV.


I am always puzzled why folks are so scared of a Pickup truck.

With the advent of the crew cabs you can fit 6 adults easily in a Crew cab.. The 1/2 ton versions ride as soft as the proverbial "Cadillac" with their softer springs.

So, unless you have a absolute need to haul 7-9 adults a pickup truck can easily substitute for a large SUV. Not to mention with a cover or even a cap on the back of the pickup you have lots of additional useful cargo area to work with!

The only downside of a 1/2 ton pickup is it is not easy to find them with the HD or Max Tow payload package off of dealer lots so you do need to check the payload sticker before committing to buying one. Top trim level with long bed often results with cargo payloads of 1,200 lbs unless you find one with HD payload or Max Tow configurations which gets you up to 1,800-2,200 lb payloads.

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Payload isnt going to be an issue as its just me. The only other significant weight thing that will be in the vehicle is my computer tower and that only weights 50 lbs and will be strapped in to a seat. The Tahoe SSV is more than likely what im going to go with. Tow capacity of 8,400 payload of 1,640. 4x4. Only seats 5, not that i need it. A f150 regular cab 4x4 with a 6.5ft bed would do too

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poppa wrote:

what is a squishy tire? thought all tires were squishy?


They are not. The tires on the Tahoe were great when empty. When towing they allowed for to much lateral movement.

LT tires fixed that for me. No more squishy handling.

As to the crew cab vs SUV. I’ve had the CC and I much prefer the SUV. I like being able to store my gear in a locked and air conditioned place. People say just get a bedcover. That does not even compare IMHO. I get to vote with my money and experience so it’s what works for us. Others experience is different and I appreciate that.

We really do have an embarrassment of riches when it comes to choosing a Tow Vehicle.

Thanks!

Jeremiah.


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jerem0621 wrote:


As to the crew cab vs SUV. I’ve had the CC and I much prefer the SUV. I like being able to store my gear in a locked and air conditioned place. People say just get a bedcover. That does not even compare IMHO. I get to vote with my money and experience so it’s what works for us. Others experience is different and I appreciate that.

We really do have an embarrassment of riches when it comes to choosing a Tow Vehicle.

Thanks!

Jeremiah.


Different strokes for different folks.

Would you want or enjoy carrying a 4kw generator with fuel INSIDE your SUV?

I wouldn't.

Would you want or enjoy carrying a 15 gallon gas fuel tank INSIDE your SUV?

I wouldn't.

Would you want or enjoy putting 3 full sized bicycles inside your SUV?

I wouldn't.

Would you want or enjoy carrying your full of dirt "patio mat" inside your SUV?

I wouldn't.

Would you want or enjoy carrying firewood inside your SUV?

I wouldn't.

Would you want or enjoy carrying your dirt bikes inside of your SUV?

I wouldn't.

There are many more situations like the above that a SUV vehicle really does not make sense..

As far as OP's computer tower goes, why carry that inside the vehicle?

Put it in the trailer, absolutely no need to baby that thing, not sure how you think it got shipped to you.. UPS, FedEx nor USPS gives anything that kind of kid glove care.. Computers can far more abuse than you think..

Over the last 22 yrs I have built and setup around 20,000 PCs for my company, they get shipped on pallets, they get air freighted, they get UPS, FedEx and USPS treatment from not only from the East Coast to West coast but to Canada and even Europe.

I can count on one hand how many failed to boot up on arrival.

I can however say, we have had more arrive damaged via fork trucks spearing them or other physical damage done from tar/oil spills to being dropped from and run over by the delivery truck.

Some folks do feel that owning a SUV is a status symbol, it is not, a SUV is more like a oversized "woodgrained minivan" from the 1980s which replaced the "woodgrained station wagons from the 1950-1980s..

A pickup truck a SUV is not.

I believe in the right tool for the job, sometimes a SUV is OK and there is those times it is not.

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I guess I should also add that my travel trailer is also my permanent home. Once its set up at an RV park its there to stay until I move, which for being military is every 3 to 4 years. Some of the things you listed I wouldn't be dealing with anyway, only thing I can think of is maybe the firewood but even then its by the bag full and the SUV with a weathertech mat will do fine. And as for why i put my tower inside the vehicle, mainly because its a 2ftx2ftx2ft cube. I strap it in to a seat. The mounting plate it sets in doesnt have anchor points. I have the back bunk room set up as my office and on the rear storage container is where my tower gets put. In the mounting plate the tower sits at an angle and is off the plywood. Half of the case is glass.

* This post was edited 07/11/20 10:23am by JonnyRibz *

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If you’re not towing anymore than that get anything. If you like a sedan or smaller
suv you can usually find someone to pull a trailer a few miles for next to nothing.

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Gdetrailer wrote:

jerem0621 wrote:


As to the crew cab vs SUV. I’ve had the CC and I much prefer the SUV. I like being able to store my gear in a locked and air conditioned place. People say just get a bedcover. That does not even compare IMHO. I get to vote with my money and experience so it’s what works for us. Others experience is different and I appreciate that.

We really do have an embarrassment of riches when it comes to choosing a Tow Vehicle.

Thanks!

Jeremiah.


Different strokes for different folks.

Would you want or enjoy carrying a 4kw generator with fuel INSIDE your SUV?

I wouldn't.

Would you want or enjoy carrying a 15 gallon gas fuel tank INSIDE your SUV?

I wouldn't.

Would you want or enjoy putting 3 full sized bicycles inside your SUV?

I wouldn't.

Would you want or enjoy carrying your full of dirt "patio mat" inside your SUV?

I wouldn't.

Would you want or enjoy carrying firewood inside your SUV?

I wouldn't.

Would you want or enjoy carrying your dirt bikes inside of your SUV?

I wouldn't.

There are many more situations like the above that a SUV vehicle really does not make sense..

As far as OP's computer tower goes, why carry that inside the vehicle?

Put it in the trailer, absolutely no need to baby that thing, not sure how you think it got shipped to you.. UPS, FedEx nor USPS gives anything that kind of kid glove care.. Computers can far more abuse than you think..

Over the last 22 yrs I have built and setup around 20,000 PCs for my company, they get shipped on pallets, they get air freighted, they get UPS, FedEx and USPS treatment from not only from the East Coast to West coast but to Canada and even Europe.

I can count on one hand how many failed to boot up on arrival.

I can however say, we have had more arrive damaged via fork trucks spearing them or other physical damage done from tar/oil spills to being dropped from and run over by the delivery truck.

Some folks do feel that owning a SUV is a status symbol, it is not, a SUV is more like a oversized "woodgrained minivan" from the 1980s which replaced the "woodgrained station wagons from the 1950-1980s..

A pickup truck a SUV is not.

I believe in the right tool for the job, sometimes a SUV is OK and there is those times it is not.


Whew, touched a nerve.

I’ve carried most of that stuff or similar in my vans or SUV’s. That’s why I keep a simple tarp around. Quite a handy little tool, the Tarp.

Firewood (Hauled firewood yesterday with my Status symbol SUV, which is Old by this forums standard), gas cans, mowers, appliances. If it fits it goes... plus with the seats flipped forward and out I have tons and tons of tie off points.

I’m not a statisy kind of person and I don’t really care what you or anybody else thinks or does or feels about my choice. And I didn’t criticize you for yours.

You undoubtedly worked hard for what you have and you use it and enjoy it and it does what you want it to do.

Do what thou wilt.

I’m just sharing my experience and my preferences. I personally don't really like pickup trucks. That’s a preference thing. Some things you really need a pickup truck for...I get it. I’ve owned a TON of trucks, found myself using the easier to load and easier to haul utility trailer for most heavy stuff. Much more useful and if you buy the right utility trailer more cargo capacity than all but a F450... and I can still pull it with my Tahoe.

Of course The context of this website Is RV’ing.... and the full size SUV does RV’ing very very very well.

Thanks and have a great day

Jeremiah

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Posted: 07/11/20 12:54pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

When I inquired about a SUV for towing, a wise old salesman said, "We have enough trouble keeping those things right side up without a trailer. Get a pickup"

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