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samsontdog

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My Daughter and SIL are both retiring soon and moving from NY to Calif to be near her family. They will be buying a house in the Sac Ca area but so far can not find what they want. SIL thinks they should buy a Toy Hauler since he is 6ft 5 and he thinks the MH Class a is not tall enough
for him. This will be just to live in while they find a Home to buy.They will not haul any toys in the Toy H just them selfs and 2 big dogs. Now she said she wants 2 bed rooms since he snores plus 2 bath rs. Is this possible? Dont they have some MHs with tall ceilings? Forget the 2 bath rms? They both want "new" whatever they buy. I think they are crazy but that's just me


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Not sure I follow. There are all kinds of toy haulers, Class A's, FW's, trailers etc. Are you referring to a Fifth wheel? And if so that doesn't have to b a toy hauler. But an Rv with a taller ceiling doesn't necessarily have to be a toy hauler. Few MH's have 2 bedrooms. Lots of FW's have 2 bed 2 bath but you also need a truck big enough to pull it.


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They'd be better off renting an apartment for a few months unless they plan on using the toyhauler for the next few years.


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You are not alone in your thinking of their decision making process. I vote TH if they have an adequate TV.


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Posted: 10/09/20 12:26pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Couple things...toy haulers are built to carry the weight of toys behind the axle and still have adequate pin/tongue weight. When there are no toys in the garage, and no offsetting weight behind the axles, they are impossibly heavy on the pin/tongue. Planning to use a toy hauler with no toys is not a good idea.

How are the thinking of living in the RV? If they have a place to park it, a 5er is probably the best choice. If they have to stay mobile, then a MH is probably better.

FWIW, I have about 4" more headroom in my Lance TC than I did on my 34' Terry TT. Ceiling height is more function of RV type and manufacturer than whether Class A, B, C etc.


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Forest River makes a two bedroom, two bathroom trailer that may suit their needs. it is the Wildwood DLX 4002Q model.

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Are the dogs kennel trained? One nice thing with a toy hauler is the garage makes a good place to put the kennals.

If headroom is really a concern, a 5th wheel is a good option and larger ones can be found with 2 bedrooms. Do they have a truck capable of handling a big 5er? A big one with 2 bedrooms is likely in 1 ton dually territory.

Do they have any RV experience? I would have to agree that it's crazy to buy big and new if they have no experience.


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BurbMan wrote:

Couple things...toy haulers are built to carry the weight of toys behind the axle and still have adequate pin/tongue weight. When there are no toys in the garage, and no offsetting weight behind the axles, they are impossibly heavy on the pin/tongue. Planning to use a toy hauler with no toys is not a good idea.


That's kind of correct in theory, but not so much in practice.

Our old bumper pull toy hauler was a lot more susceptible to that. It was absolutely balanced with a load in mind. The tongue was very heavy when it wasn't loaded with our bikes inside.

Our garage model fifth wheel is completely different though. We've toured far and wide without the car in the garage (see map below) and it really doesn't make any difference. The larger 5er is so long and heavy that it doesn't matter if the tanks and garage are empty. It's heavy but stable either way.

Having said that, I wouldn't recommend getting the toy hauler if they don't really have a need for the garage. The garage is OK for kids to sleep in, but I wouldn't recommend it for adults. Ours has the double HappiJac beds (queen bed on top and convertible queen/dinette below). It's a good use of the space, but it doesn't have the comfort and amenities of a bedroom. I think a 5er with two bedrooms and baths would be a lot more comfortable.

The only exception is if they plan to dry camp while their home is being built. If that's the case, then I would absolutely go with a toy hauler because of the larger tanks, onboard generator, fuel stations, etc. If they go this route, they should plan to invest a little extra to add four batteries, an inverter, and a bunch of solar panels. It makes a huge difference. We mostly use our generator when it's hot out and we need to run the air conditioners. Otherwise, the solar panels keep the batteries charged up pretty well.

To reiterate on the weighting and balance though, I've been the moderator of the Toy Hauler Forum here for 15 years and I've never seen anybody complain about the ride in a fifth wheel with an empty garage. It really isn't an issue.

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As mentioned does the fella already have a tow vehicle? The snoring might be hard to avoid because youre trapped 20 feet away with a fake little wall between you.

You could get a front bedroom toyhauler. Lets the wife sleep up there. Then put another bed in the back of the trailer for the man. Could also bring in a residential couch and big screen TV. The couches that come on most trailers are not comfortable. Turn the toyhauler area into a little studio apt.

Ive been wanting to sell the chairs and couch that came with my toyhauler and get some household recliners and/or a couch.

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Thanks for the replys. My SIL has never towed anything other than a small trailer with a MC in the trailer and dump runs. My Daughter has never camped much except with us, her parents when she was young. He has a new 1/2 ton Dodge diesel which he loves but will buy a one ton dually to tow with. Someone told me about the Forest River Wildwood. I called and he said the Hideout has 2 bed rs and a bath and half. That sucker is 40 ft long!It is a TT 6ft9in height inside which would work for SIL at 6 ft 5. I will call and let them know about it

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