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Posted: 10/25/20 05:06pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

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AutoTrader dealers are advertising a total of 234 Bronco Sport models, complete with VIN's.
As an FYI... after checking in with those that have had their orders scheduled, apparently they then show up as “inventory” for their selected dealer. FAKE NEWS!!! [emoticon]

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Yes but the inference was that dealers had these vehicles available for sale when in fact they are not available for purchase, that’s all. In the end it makes little difference.

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A1ARealtorRick wrote:

My point was the same number of cylinders -- three. Period. That's all. And, I DO have a clue, after having been in the automobile business for 30 years. I know that 3 = 3, regardless of anything else.


So based on your expert experience, the Cumins 5.9 diesel is a weak engine because a lot of 1980's minivans had weak V6 engines.

6 = 6 regardless of anything else by your logic.


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Posted: 10/26/20 06:16am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

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A1ARealtorRick wrote:

My point was the same number of cylinders -- three. Period. That's all. And, I DO have a clue, after having been in the automobile business for 30 years. I know that 3 = 3, regardless of anything else.


So based on your expert experience, the Cumins 5.9 diesel is a weak engine because a lot of 1980's minivans had weak V6 engines.

6 = 6 regardless of anything else by your logic.


No need to put words in my mouth. I was SIMPLY stating that the number of cylinders was identical. Why the issue?

The 3-cylinder in the Bronco Sport is a 3-cylinder. What's so hard to understand about that??

Where did I say anything about weakness? (other than hp and torque ratings of the Bronco Sport 3-cylinder). However, I never compared those ratings to 3-cylinder engines of the past.

If all you want to do is argue for sport, PM me and we can take it from there.


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A1ARealtorRick wrote:

valhalla360 wrote:

A1ARealtorRick wrote:

My point was the same number of cylinders -- three. Period. That's all. And, I DO have a clue, after having been in the automobile business for 30 years. I know that 3 = 3, regardless of anything else.


So based on your expert experience, the Cumins 5.9 diesel is a weak engine because a lot of 1980's minivans had weak V6 engines.

6 = 6 regardless of anything else by your logic.


No need to put words in my mouth. I was SIMPLY stating that the number of cylinders was identical. Why the issue?

The 3-cylinder in the Bronco Sport is a 3-cylinder. What's so hard to understand about that??

Where did I say anything about weakness? (other than hp and torque ratings of the Bronco Sport 3-cylinder). However, I never compared those ratings to 3-cylinder engines of the past.

If all you want to do is argue for sport, PM me and we can take it from there.


I didn't put words into your mouth. I expanded on your logic to show the fallacy in complaining that it's only 3 cylinders.

Why is it a big deal that it's 3 cylinders?

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Posted: 10/26/20 10:57am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

valhalla360 wrote:

A1ARealtorRick wrote:

valhalla360 wrote:

A1ARealtorRick wrote:

My point was the same number of cylinders -- three. Period. That's all. And, I DO have a clue, after having been in the automobile business for 30 years. I know that 3 = 3, regardless of anything else.


So based on your expert experience, the Cumins 5.9 diesel is a weak engine because a lot of 1980's minivans had weak V6 engines.

6 = 6 regardless of anything else by your logic.


No need to put words in my mouth. I was SIMPLY stating that the number of cylinders was identical. Why the issue?

The 3-cylinder in the Bronco Sport is a 3-cylinder. What's so hard to understand about that??

Where did I say anything about weakness? (other than hp and torque ratings of the Bronco Sport 3-cylinder). However, I never compared those ratings to 3-cylinder engines of the past.

If all you want to do is argue for sport, PM me and we can take it from there.


I didn't put words into your mouth. I expanded on your logic to show the fallacy in complaining that it's only 3 cylinders.

Why is it a big deal that it's 3 cylinders?


Engines with an odd number of cylinders are inherently rougher than those with an even number of cylinders. Google it.

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A1ARealtorRick wrote:


Engines with an odd number of cylinders are inherently rougher than those with an even number of cylinders. Google it.

True, and that was a highlight of a recent review of this engine in an Escape. You could actually see the vibration in the steering wheel at idle. Maybe that’s the real reason for the use of stop/start technology, not to save fuel but so you don’t feel the vibration at idle so much [emoticon].

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Posted: 10/26/20 11:34am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

A1ARealtorRick wrote:

Engines with an odd number of cylinders are inherently rougher than those with an even number of cylinders. Google it.
Except 4 cylinders are notoriously hard to balance above about 2 liters. Mitsubishi invented a counter rotating shaft to improve the issue.

My 1 liter Metro was actually very smooth running. Straight 6 and 90 degree V-8 are inherently very smooth running.

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Arguably zero cylinders are the smoothest. [emoticon]. Our last three cars have had zero cylinders and can attest to that. [emoticon]. But then again, technically I think zero is an even number...

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Hummer should be very smooth. [emoticon] Although in the interim the Ford 1.5L 3cyl eco boost should perform very well in the Bronco. I would have no qualms about just 3 spark plugs to change.

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