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Posted: 06/18/21 01:32pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Years ago when my mother in-law was still living I was driving her to a dental appointment. She couldn't drive anymore after a stroke and severe dementia.

She seemed to cheer up and smile when I entered a roundabout, so I just stayed in it and did a couple laps to give her a thrill. She started giggling and asked me, "Is this real?" I told her that yes it was, and she said, "Oh good. I'm glad it is."

Those were her first complete and lucid sentences in ages.

She was a gem.


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Someone mentioned 4-way stops. Don't get me started.

OK, I'm started. I happen to live in a large suburban tract where "being nice and polite and neighborly" is the prevailing attitude. (Yes, it's California, but the town was settled by Midwesterners.). Nobody wants to be thought of as rude.

So whenever there is a 4-way (and we have a lot of them), traffic often comes to a halt. Nobody wants to be pushy and go first -- lots of waving "after you," "No, after you." No one moves for quite a while.

This phenomenon is so common that folks here laugh about it on NextDoor and have given it a name -- "A Nice-ness Jam."

Disgusting behavior. Don't they know that Californians are aggressive drivers??


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Posted: 06/18/21 02:02pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Talk about catching some air. [emoticon]

Took out a parked car, too!

“That roundabout just jumped out in front of me! It came outta nowhere!” [emoticon]

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Posted: 06/18/21 02:05pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Rules for roundabouts.

Here’s how you do it:

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I like roundabouts. The issues are not with roundabouts but with the lack of good driver training. Europeans go through a lot more than we do before they are granted a license. Also few take the time to understand how they work. Another issue is that people don't know know how to safety merge on a freeway, or even into another lane in traffic. How can they be expected to understand how to merge into a roundabout? Again this all comes back to driver training.


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The US has not gotten the idea of how to build roundabouts yet. Most are way too small & most drivers don't have any clue of how to use them.

In England they know how to build them & drivers know how to use them.

Generally they are much larger multiple lane affairs. Drivers actually use signal lights to let others know their intentions. The signage is much better too


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I learned to drive on the UK's 2nd Roundabout capital in Wales. However after when I went back there a few years ago after an absence of almost 30 years I had to learn all over again. Now though it wasn't as easy as before as now I was going around three lane roundabouts, on the wrong side of the road, changing a now unfamiliar gearbox with the wrong hand, and to top it all off, bi-lingual road signs!
Having said that, I think they work great, but here in Canada, I wish people would signal when they exit. Any accidents that do happen on them are less serious as they are glancing rather than T boned!


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I don't like them. Typical government outcome- copy a design from Europe, but don't do it completely right.
Make them overly "tight" so if you're towing anything you're going over a curb either inside or outside. Don't put up clear signage so drivers are swerving to get to the exit they want. Then you have drivers who stop when they don't have to, don't yield when they are supposed to. Anyone who says roundabouts work need to come to Fernley NV, they have one that regularly has huge back ups waiting to enter.
In short no one is doing it right. Driver training needs to improve as does driver behavior. The designers need to improve signage and design the traffic circles correctly.

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Posted: 06/18/21 11:27pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

You call THAT a roundabout! Fern. ley Roundabout
THIS is a roundabout! Magic Roundabout Swindon UK
Notice how on some parts you go round clockwise, other parts counter clockwise!

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Posted: 06/19/21 05:28am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Who can relax in the center of a roundabout?

Talk about a perpetual feeling of impending doom! [emoticon]

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