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EMD360 wrote:

I do the lift method at home and dump into our outdoor clean out. But a pit toilet is dry waste. I would think unless it is very seldom used it would not be an appropriate type of waste. Taking advantage of park facilities in ways not designed for is misuse. Wouldn’t want to be guilty of that. Not sure how 2 week boondocking folks handle more waste than fits in the black tank. Are the secondary tanks big enough? Where are they stored? I’m guessing they are too heavy to lift when filled.


We used one of those 42(?) gallon blue tanks for a while. Carried it using a spare tire holder that bolts to the underside of the trailer frame. They're too small and you can't tow them far or fast - so unless you have a macerator pump, fill them in your truck bed, and have a lot of patience they're not good for boondocking. We gave ours away to a neighbor at a Thousand Trails site and said good riddance.

We use a macerator pump (Sani-Con Turbo) and 165 gallon custom-made collapsible bladder in our fifth wheel. Pump it into the truck bed and just take the truck to a dump station. Everything is setup with camlock fittings and the hose is permanently attached, so there is never any mess.

We use a composting toilet and combined the grey/black tanks on our TC, for 83 gallons of grey capacity. That's enough to go a couple weeks on.


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If I needed a significant amount of grey water moved, I would do the collapsible bladder.

The portable macerator is the best thing if you need to go around a corner, up a hill, up into a truck bed, etc. I did the "lift method" at home a few times and it was never as simple as it should be. First, those stinky slinkies aren't sturdy enough to lift easily - it takes multiple "walks" down the length to get them to empty partially. Second, if you need the extra reach, they always leak at the connection when you lift.

With those two items, you could extend a dry camping experience nicely. A one hour trip to a dump station would be a no biggie (pick up some fresh groceries while you're out).


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Doesn't the macerator "chew up" the solids, and toilet paper so they can pass through the garden hose effectively?

Im sorry, but I see no way this would work effectively. But hey, give it a shot and take pictures.

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It would probably be better to just logistically plan your camping trip to allow for trips to a proper dump station just like the rest of us.


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    Walaby wrote:

    Doesn't the macerator "chew up" the solids, and toilet paper so they can pass through the garden hose effectively?

    Im sorry, but I see no way this would work effectively. But hey, give it a shot and take pictures.

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    Yes it does. It also has a pump so it pushes the chewed up stuff through the hose instead of it just sitting in there waiting for gravity to move it.

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    Please keep in mind that there are two very different types of toilets in back-country campgrounds.
    One is the "pit toilet". This is pretty much identical to the old "outhouse" some of us had when we were kids: A hole in the ground with a little house on top of it. When the hole gets full to a certain point, the house is moved, the hole filled in, and a new hole dug to put the house over. In these, the liquids percolate through the soil, and the solids are left in the hole.
    The other is the "vault toilet". In this case, the hole has a solid concrete or fiberglas vault in it, with a pretty much permanent house built above it. The vault holds everything, and must be pumped out regularly, usually on a schedule not on an "as needed" basis.
    Dumping RV tanks in either toilet is almost always against the rules, and may result in a ticket being issued, and/or eviction from the campground.
    The (in)famous "blue tote" may seem like a good idea, but around here the nearest dump station can be anywhere from 10 to 40 miles from the campground. That is why I no longer have one.
    Some areas may allow draining the grey water slowly into the brush next to the campsite. Other areas will issue a ticket and/or eviction notice for doing it.
    As always, read the instructions when checking in to find out what is legal and not legal. Then comply with the instructions.
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    If I’m that far away from dump facilities, there’s always a place to fertilize the forest that won’t be offensive to anyone. Or worst case, poop in the woods.
    I’d poop in the woods before 90% of the pit toilets anyway. Yuck!


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