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Snomas

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Posted: 08/14/21 10:32pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I’m looking at a 2010 Winnebago outlook. 2 slides 29 ft 40 k miles Does anyone know if thy have a fiberglass roof and quality of the outlook MH Im not new to Motorhomes I just sold my Diesel pusher and want to down size.


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Doing a search , It says it has a crowned fiberglass roof

https://www.rvroundtable.com/wp-content/uploads/winnebago/2010/2010.Outlook.pdf

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Just a suggestion . . . drive one for a bit, and be sure you find the noise and heat from the front engine tolerable. I thought about downsizing from a DP, but once I drove a front engine gasser I immediately changed my mind. Your opinion might vary, however! [emoticon]


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RetiredRealtorRick wrote:

Just a suggestion . . . drive one for a bit, and be sure you find the noise and heat from the front engine tolerable. I thought about downsizing from a DP, but once I drove a front engine gasser I immediately changed my mind. Your opinion might vary, however! [emoticon]


Good points. In 2017 we downsized from a Roadtrek to a new Sunstar 26HE, and after one trip, traded it in partly because of those two issues. The fuel economy was in there too, because there isn't any. We did like the extra interior room, and larger storage, but not that much. We re-downsized to a Navion, and haven't looked back. Great compromise between the prior units, with none of the baggage.


Mike. Comments are anecdotal or personal opinions, and worth what you paid for them.
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Snomas wrote:

I’m looking at a 2010 Winnebago outlook. 2 slides 29 ft 40 k miles Does anyone know if thy have a fiberglass roof and quality of the outlook MH Im not new to Motorhomes I just sold my Diesel pusher and want to down size.


Regarding heat from a 2010 Outlook's V10 engine - if the 2010 E450 Ford chassis is similar to my 2005 E450 Ford chassis:

1. On our 2005 Winnebago Itasca Spirit Class C, "someone" (Ford or Winnebago) had installed metal heat shields underneath between the exhaust pipes and the cab floor to block heat from radiating upwards onto the cab floor above.

2. The Ford air conditioning system has a setting that directs it's air flow downwards onto the driver and passenger cab floors to keep them cool. The setting of the controls is not labeled clearly as to how to do this, so I had to discover it by trial and error a few years into owning our Class C.

We do not experience hot cab floors, and engine noise is also a non-issue with us because I keep engine RPM below 4000 as much as possible on grades. When cruising down the road at 59-62 MPH, we can't hear the V10.

* This post was edited 08/15/21 02:11pm by pnichols *


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pnichols wrote:

Snomas wrote:

I’m looking at a 2010 Winnebago outlook. 2 slides 29 ft 40 k miles Does anyone know if thy have a fiberglass roof and quality of the outlook MH Im not new to Motorhomes I just sold my Diesel pusher and want to down size.


Regarding heat from a 2010 Outlook's V10 engine - if the 2010 E450 Ford chassis is similar to my 2005 E450 Ford chassis:

1. On our 2005 Winnebago Itasca Spirit Class C, "someone" (Ford or Winnebago) had installed metal heat shields underneath between the exhaust pipes and the cab floor to block heat from radiating upwards onto the cab floor above.

2. The Ford air conditioning system has a setting that directs it's air flow downwards onto the driver and passenger cab floors to keep them cool. The setting of the controls is not labeled clearly as to how to do this, so I had to discover it by trial and error a few years into owning our Class C.

We do not experience hot cab floors, and engine noise is also a non-issue with us because I keep engine RPM below 4000 as much as possible on grades. When cruising down the road at 59-62 MPH, we can't hear the V10.


Remember, though, the OP is comparing it to a DP. Engine noise may be a non-issue if you're used to it, but might be a big issue versus a DP.

Plus, if you're cruising at 59-62mph, I can only assume you're on US highways and not Interstates. Moving at a with the flow of traffic on an Interstate will make engine noise more audible.

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RetiredRealtorRick wrote:

pnichols wrote:

Snomas wrote:

I’m looking at a 2010 Winnebago outlook. 2 slides 29 ft 40 k miles Does anyone know if thy have a fiberglass roof and quality of the outlook MH Im not new to Motorhomes I just sold my Diesel pusher and want to down size.


Regarding heat from a 2010 Outlook's V10 engine - if the 2010 E450 Ford chassis is similar to my 2005 E450 Ford chassis:

1. On our 2005 Winnebago Itasca Spirit Class C, "someone" (Ford or Winnebago) had installed metal heat shields underneath between the exhaust pipes and the cab floor to block heat from radiating upwards onto the cab floor above.

2. The Ford air conditioning system has a setting that directs it's air flow downwards onto the driver and passenger cab floors to keep them cool. The setting of the controls is not labeled clearly as to how to do this, so I had to discover it by trial and error a few years into owning our Class C.

We do not experience hot cab floors, and engine noise is also a non-issue with us because I keep engine RPM below 4000 as much as possible on grades. When cruising down the road at 59-62 MPH, we can't hear the V10.


Remember, though, the OP is comparing it to a DP. Engine noise may be a non-issue if you're used to it, but might be a big issue versus a DP.

Plus, if you're cruising at 59-62mph, I can only assume you're on US highways and not Interstates. Moving at a with the flow of traffic on an Interstate will make engine noise more audible.


Various coach internal noises here and there are usually louder than any engine noise, and those noises would would still be there with a DP.

We even try to as much as possible travel 59-62 MPH on the Interstates ... we just get behind a big rig in the right lane (probably a heavy loaded one) that's trying to stay in their RPM-versus-gearing sweet spot of around 62 MPH. These RV travel speeds in the right lane make for less stress and result in decent fuel mileage ... and don't bother drivers in the faster lanes.

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pnichols wrote:

RetiredRealtorRick wrote:

pnichols wrote:

Snomas wrote:

I’m looking at a 2010 Winnebago outlook. 2 slides 29 ft 40 k miles Does anyone know if thy have a fiberglass roof and quality of the outlook MH Im not new to Motorhomes I just sold my Diesel pusher and want to down size.


Regarding heat from a 2010 Outlook's V10 engine - if the 2010 E450 Ford chassis is similar to my 2005 E450 Ford chassis:

1. On our 2005 Winnebago Itasca Spirit Class C, "someone" (Ford or Winnebago) had installed metal heat shields underneath between the exhaust pipes and the cab floor to block heat from radiating upwards onto the cab floor above.

2. The Ford air conditioning system has a setting that directs it's air flow downwards onto the driver and passenger cab floors to keep them cool. The setting of the controls is not labeled clearly as to how to do this, so I had to discover it by trial and error a few years into owning our Class C.

We do not experience hot cab floors, and engine noise is also a non-issue with us because I keep engine RPM below 4000 as much as possible on grades. When cruising down the road at 59-62 MPH, we can't hear the V10.


Remember, though, the OP is comparing it to a DP. Engine noise may be a non-issue if you're used to it, but might be a big issue versus a DP.

Plus, if you're cruising at 59-62mph, I can only assume you're on US highways and not Interstates. Moving at a with the flow of traffic on an Interstate will make engine noise more audible.


Various coach internal noises here and there are usually louder than any engine noise, and those noises would would still be there with a DP.

We even try to as much as possible travel 59-62 MPH on the Interstates ... we just get behind a big rig in the right lane (probably a heavy loaded one) that's trying to stay in their RPM-versus-gearing sweet spot of around 62 MPH. These RV travel speeds in the right lane make for less stress and result in decent fuel mileage ... and don't bother drivers in the faster lanes.



Well, we were talking engine noise, and I stand by what I said, having owned 3 DP's and 2 gassers.

It's nice that the slower speeds mean less stress for you, but they can be hazardous. Right lane driving is fine, and it usually doesn't affect left-laners, but it creates a challenge for merging traffic.

I like to drive 55-ish. Comfortable, and less stress, but I will not do it on the interstate -- that's what secondary roads are made for, and we use them a lot. Frankly, nobody else on the interstate really cares about your fuel mileage.

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Posted: 08/17/21 12:19am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

RetiredRealtorRick wrote:

Just a suggestion . . . drive one for a bit, and be sure you find the noise and heat from the front engine tolerable. I thought about downsizing from a DP, but once I drove a front engine gasser I immediately changed my mind. Your opinion might vary, however! [emoticon]

And then there's DP ride quality . . .


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