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Cummins12V98

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FleetGuard oil filters are not made in USA any longer so that is another reason I switched.

Totally get there are only so many battery manufacturers. They do make batteries to the spec people want so batteries can be different.

The MOPAR FleetGuard air filter has changed numbers and is improved to meet the 19 and newer specs.

To give you a comparison of filters my friend had someone change his 13 RAM Fuel filters. When I went to remove the engine mounted filter I no way could pull it out by hand. I had to pry it out. The filters were NAPA and a side by side comparison can tell you the FleetGuard/MOPAR filter has more filter media.

Things may be made by the same company but the quality can be different!

No comparison between the filters. NAPA/WIX and MOPAR/FleetGuard

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Posted: 08/20/21 08:59am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Cummins12V98 wrote:

FleetGuard oil filters are not made in USA any longer so that is another reason I switched.

Totally get there are only so many battery manufacturers. They do make batteries to the spec people want so batteries can be different.

The MOPAR FleetGuard air filter has changed numbers and is improved to meet the 19 and newer specs.

To give you a comparison of filters my friend had someone change his 13 RAM Fuel filters. When I went to remove the engine mounted filter I no way could pull it out by hand. I had to pry it out. The filters were NAPA and a side by side comparison can tell you the FleetGuard/MOPAR filter has more filter media.

Things may be made by the same company but the quality can be different!

No comparison between the filters. NAPA/WIX and MOPAR/FleetGuard


There are two variants of that filter. The synthetic media version(FS53000) and the standard media version(FS43255). Both made and still offered by Fleetgaurd and is sold to various other filter manufacturers. Just like how FLeetgaurd offers a good and best version, so do many other filter suppliers like the standard Napa version versus the Napa Gold version. So what you are comparing in that picture is the synthetic version versus the standard version so it is not apples to apples when comparing each brands re-labeled product.

Fleetgaurd oil filters are still made in the USA and I can try to get my Fleetgaurd rep from Cummins cooperate on this thread to prove it. I just had a meeting with him on next years pricing. They have had some supply chain issues forcing them to get filters from other factories for a short period of time or move product to different factories to meet demand, but they typically sell product in the same region they are produced. The N/A product comes from the N/A factories, the South American product comes from the South American factories, the Asian product comes from the Asian factories, and so on.

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K&N have their advantages for racing vehicles but not for use on paved highways. With my diesel pickup I bought a Fram replacement filter but it was much lower quality and a poorer fit than the stock GM air filter.

What 99% of people do not know is that a filter is least effective when it is brand new and before any "loading" of the media has taken place (same is true for fuel filters). The only way to improve air flow is to reduce the filtering of particles in the air, as with the K&N filters. Not a problem with a race engine that only has to finish the race but not a good choice if you want to put as many miles as possible on an engine.

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"Fleetgaurd oil filters are still made in the USA and I can try to get my Fleetgaurd rep from Cummins cooperate on this thread to prove it."

Would you like to make a friendly wager??? I said "FleetGuard oil filters are not made in USA any longer so that is another reason I switched" I should have said 5.9/6.7 FleetGuard StrataPore oil filters are not made in USA any longer so that is another reason I switched.

You made a blanket statement and so did I but you know what I was referring to. So please prove me wrong.

So you are saying apples and oranges, I am talking quality here as to why I buy what I buy. Simply no comparison with the NAPA/WIX. You should know how important it is to have the BEST filtration for your fuel with the cost of injectors in our modern cummins trucks.

HAPA Gold does NOT compare to StrataPore or NanoNet Fuel filtration plain and simple.

The StrataPore for our trucks has been made in Mexico for at least a couple years now. Now have your friend tell you so and report back please.

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wintersun wrote:

K&N have their advantages for racing vehicles but not for use on paved highways. With my diesel pickup I bought a Fram replacement filter but it was much lower quality and a poorer fit than the stock GM air filter.

What 99% of people do not know is that a filter is least effective when it is brand new and before any "loading" of the media has taken place (same is true for fuel filters). The only way to improve air flow is to reduce the filtering of particles in the air, as with the K&N filters. Not a problem with a race engine that only has to finish the race but not a good choice if you want to put as many miles as possible on an engine.


With FRAM ya get what YA pay for!!!

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Well when I changed the oil for the first time on our new to us 2016 Ram CTD, I did a comparison of the filter the Ford dealer used on it and the Fleetguard StrataPore I replaced it with. The old is on top the Fleetguard on the bottom. The difference is clear!

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1320Fastback wrote:

K&N is trash and will dust your motor.


Ditto

NEVER use K&N air filters. Pull one of the the box at a store and hold it up to the light. Every one I have checked, I can see through the filter media.

I still run a GM OEM filter in my 2009 Duramax. I think I've only changed the filter twice in 12 years.

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"The difference is clear!"

Uh, one's used and one's new?


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fj12ryder wrote:

"The difference is clear!"

Uh, one's used and one's new?



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Posted: 08/22/21 05:15am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Mostly OEM OR FRAM


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