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Bobbo

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dieseltruckdriver wrote:

The one of the differences is my pump hoses fit in the tote also. The other difference is my hose fittings fit standard garden hoses, female in male out.

My hoses ride in the trailer anyway, in case I need to fill the tank at my site. (I don't use shore water. Even with full connections, I use the tank.)

The reason I went with double males is that when I connect a hose to the faucet, it connects to a male fitting. When the bladder is full, I close a hose shut-off valve and leave the hose attached to the bladder. I take it to the trailer and that hose, still connected to the bladder, now connects to the male fitting on the pump. The other male fitting on the pump now connects to the normal tank filling hose.


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Bobbo wrote:

vtraudt wrote:

How do you drag a full bladder from well to camp site?
That is where 'tote' (=wheels) come into play.

Personally, I empty the back of the pickup truck and just lay it in there. However, if you don't have a truck, lay it on top of the car's roof/trunk and drive slowly.


I wouldn't recommend putting it on the roof unless it's a very small bladder. Some friends once tried to bring home a few sheets of plywood from Home Depot that way -- they put down a blanket and tied the plywood down securely. They drove on neighborhood streets to keep the speed down.

Everything was fine and they were nearly home and hit a bump or pothole in the road and suddenly the roof sunk 3 inches.

Surprisingly the insurance company did cover it, and ended up totaling their 3 year old car since it was not repairable.

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Bobbo wrote:

dieseltruckdriver wrote:

The one of the differences is my pump hoses fit in the tote also. The other difference is my hose fittings fit standard garden hoses, female in male out.

My hoses ride in the trailer anyway, in case I need to fill the tank at my site. (I don't use shore water. Even with full connections, I use the tank.)

The reason I went with double males is that when I connect a hose to the faucet, it connects to a male fitting. When the bladder is full, I close a hose shut-off valve and leave the hose attached to the bladder. I take it to the trailer and that hose, still connected to the bladder, now connects to the male fitting on the pump. The other male fitting on the pump now connects to the normal tank filling hose.


My 5er still has a gravity fill port, and we also only use our fresh tank. I just got done with a spot with electric and water for 9 days, and never pulled a hose out, since our fresh tank was full was full when we got there.

I only mentioned it because some think they HAVE to use the city hookup instead of using their fresh water tank. I don't understand why.

I don't worry about my tank sensors because I know two full fresh tanks fit in our 2 grey and 1 black tanks. In 9 days, we didn't use 1 fresh tank, much less two.


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Grit dog wrote:

Never seems to gather any traction or commentary, but a wakeboat ballast bag and pump is a literally plug n play option with a 12V cig plug and a long extension cord on the pump.
Can get bags or package deals with pumps in many different sizes and shapes of bags. Alot of times can get a good price on a package deal on a generic size bag and pump combo that aren't the latest and greatest.


And,,, it didn't get much traction again. lol A quick check seems to put the price in the several hundred dollar range. I can build something my self cheaper.

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dieseltruckdriver wrote:

Bobbo wrote:

dieseltruckdriver wrote:

The one of the differences is my pump hoses fit in the tote also. The other difference is my hose fittings fit standard garden hoses, female in male out.

My hoses ride in the trailer anyway, in case I need to fill the tank at my site. (I don't use shore water. Even with full connections, I use the tank.)

The reason I went with double males is that when I connect a hose to the faucet, it connects to a male fitting. When the bladder is full, I close a hose shut-off valve and leave the hose attached to the bladder. I take it to the trailer and that hose, still connected to the bladder, now connects to the male fitting on the pump. The other male fitting on the pump now connects to the normal tank filling hose.


My 5er still has a gravity fill port, and we also only use our fresh tank. I just got done with a spot with electric and water for 9 days, and never pulled a hose out, since our fresh tank was full was full when we got there.

I only mentioned it because some think they HAVE to use the city hookup instead of using their fresh water tank. I don't understand why.

I don't worry about my tank sensors because I know two full fresh tanks fit in our 2 grey and 1 black tanks. In 9 days, we didn't use 1 fresh tank, much less two.


Agree. We always leave home with a full fresh tank, and even with places with hookups it's easy for us to go 5 days before needing to fill. It's nice to pull into a site, unhook, and relax. Unless it is hot out and we need the AC, I usually don't hook up to electric till after dinner. And more than once we have pulled into a campground with water problems and no fresh water. Others are scrambling because they don't want to travel for whatever reason with water in the fresh tank.

Many times if I need more water I'll pull out my empty 7.5 gallon can and fill it up at the spigot and then use my pump to fill rather than dig out a fresh water hose, hook it up and then mess with putting it away again.


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vtraudt wrote:

mobeewan wrote:


I also took a spare pump and added garden hose connections.


Can someone point me towards the adapter I need to connect 'garden hose' to the inlet/outlet of the typical RV pump (sure flow or similar)?

Something like this? Anderson Metals 57480-1208 Brass Garden Hose Fitting, Connector, read ¾” Male GHT x ½” Female NPT

https://www.amazon.com/Anderson-Metals-Garden-Fitting-Connector/dp/B000FPAPM8/ref=sr_1_7?dchild=1&keywords=3%2F4+to+1%2F2+ght+plastic&qid=1629810635&s=industrial&sr=1-7


Since I have the (old, but working) pump still in my 'wet box' in teh trailer, may as well put the correct adapters on, cut up an old garden hose (one end syphon hose, one and to stick into the fresh water fill port) and run some 12V to the area.


I used 2 of these Shurflo adapters and 1 brass male garden hose adapter and 1 female garden hose adapter both with 1/2" NPT female threads on them.

The threads on a Sureflo pump are actually 1/2" NPT, but I preferred to be able to swivel the fittings if I needed to since you can loosen and tighten the Sureflo fittings by hand. I also didn't want to connect metal threads directly to the plastic threads on the pump in case I had to swap out the trailer pump if it went bad.

I also added a plastic male garden hose quick connects to the inlet and a female garden hose quick connect with built in ball valve to the outlet. I use plastic garden hose quick connects on all my garden hoses.

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Thanks. Will get 1/2"-14 NPT male to 'garden hose' female and male (different for suction side and output side.

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Just a thought as I am thinking of a solution for us as well... Most water pumps have a bypass already installed for winterization with a short cut hose designed for pumping antifreeze. If one carried an extra 40+ gallon bladder, could you not use a full length hose off that typically short hose connection and run it to the bladder? Then just flip your valve from the internal tank to the external tank when needed? Anyone see any downside to that concept?

Also, anyone have recommendations for fairly rugged portable bladders? My concern is placing in the bed of the truck puts it next to the rest of my "stuff" and I'd be scared to have something roll or land on it and easily puncture. I would even consider a solid water tank similar to what is in the camper but would obviously want it designed for potable water. Also need to remember to disinfect.

1 more question for everyone... Are the flexible bladder type containers (ideally 50-60 gallons) durable enough to fill at home and travel full fora few hours in the bed of a truck? Where we boondock there are no water fills near bye, so what we bring is what we have. Thanks

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