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Michelle.S

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Posted: 09/08/21 04:39pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I'm not creating a "Rolling Road Block", doing 65 because the other traffic never use the right lane and are running 10 to 20 over the speed limit at least.


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I'm getting trashed in a RV Facebook page for daring suggesting that 1/2 Ton trucks generally can't tow !/2T ready 5th wheels. And then I suggested that many F250's don't have that much more capacity. Never thought I'd be a member of weight police, but here I am!

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Terryallan wrote:

seems like the last few weeks have been really bad for 5ers here in NC. Why? My opinion.
Many have been sold that story about how 5ers tow so good that you don't even know there are there, and that is how they drive. Like it is not there, and they get themselves into situations they don't have to skills to get out of, or don't have the Tv to get them out of it. Also many don't appear to have a 5th wheel capable TV. As in. I'll just put airbags on it, and it will be fine. WRONG. Airbags do not increase it capacity of your TV.

Bottom line. Yes a 5er may or may not tow better than a tag along. But it is still a trailer hanging off the back of your truck, and it is still heavy, and it still moves the TV around some. Especially in the wind, and if your TV is not capable enough., and especially if you are tow really fast, and ignoring the trailer. You wouldn't believe the number of 5th wheels that pass me on the highway running 80, and 85 MPH. That folks is too fast. Even the big trucks don't run that fast as a rule.

So don't fall for the myth that "you won't even feel it" You will, and if you aren't being careful. It may feel you right off the road. Drive like you are towing a trailer, because you are. You can't change lanes as fast, you can't accelerate as fast, and you can't stop as fast. You can't do anything like you can with out a trailer behind you. Drive accordingly.

I'm tired of seeing campers scattered out all over the road. And yes. That goes for the tag alongs as well. But it just seems the 5ers are being driven with less caution than needed.
Have you ever towed a 5th wheel? Doesn't sound like you have. My 19,000 GVWR toy hauler seems to ignore the crosswinds and it doesn't push my dually around. With 6 tires on the trailer and 6 tires on my dually my rig is extremely stabile to the point where I barely feel the wind. I've driven diesel pushers in the wind that are far less stable than my dually and trailer. The wrecks I've come across involving RVs are usually bumper pulls.


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Posted: 09/09/21 04:32am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Michelle.S wrote:

I'm not creating a "Rolling Road Block", doing 65 because the other traffic never use the right lane and are running 10 to 20 over the speed limit at least.


Where exactly is the average speed in on a busy urban freeway upwards of 80-90mph?

I'll wait for you to provide data supporting your position. Yes, there is the stray vehicle doing it but I never suggested keeping up with the outliers.


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bgum wrote:

Couldn't disagree more on the comments to drive at the speed of traffic.
You see I'm towing and most of the traffic isn't. We should drive at a speed that is manageable by someone who is towing a RV.


Yes, and unless there are other conditions such as bad weather...manageable is keeping up with the average speeds of traffic or at least pretty close to it.

If your rig is unmanageable at 65-70 (typical urban freeway speeds), there is something wrong.

On lightly traveled rural freeways, its far less of a problem as there is plenty of room for traffic coming up behind you to see and react...but once you start creating a line of cars jockeying to get around you, you are a problem.

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No we are not the problem by towing safely. The problem is a$$hats thinking that they are NASCAR drivers.
As to RV accidents I've only seen 2 in many thousands of miles towing. Both were in VA if it really matters. One was a huge TT already swaying when it went flying by us on a hilly section of US58 and the next downhill got him. The other had already happened a week ago at exit 45NB on I95. It looked like they decided to take the exit at the very last second and lost it. Both results were large piled of kindling. The cause? Speed not suitable for conditions.
Try keeping up with traffic in Cali. Say hello to a CHiP in the next 10 minutes and get out your wallet.


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philh wrote:

I'm getting trashed in a RV Facebook page for daring suggesting that 1/2 Ton trucks generally can't tow !/2T ready 5th wheels. And then I suggested that many F250's don't have that much more capacity. Never thought I'd be a member of weight police, but here I am!


Hey philh...part of being a good wt cop, is knowing what ratings to look at! [emoticon]

Towing a FW, the RAWR/tire rating is what makes a huge difference between a 150/250. The 250 can carry 2K-2.5K more pin wt, on it's rear axle.

Many 1/2 tons are not capable of carrying a fully loaded 1/2 ton towable FW, which often have a 10K GVWR. However, some can, and the RV marketing folks point at those trucks as an example.

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valhalla360 wrote:

Michelle.S wrote:

I'm not creating a "Rolling Road Block", doing 65 because the other traffic never use the right lane and are running 10 to 20 over the speed limit at least.


Where exactly is the average speed in on a busy urban freeway upwards of 80-90mph?

I'll wait for you to provide data supporting your position. Yes, there is the stray vehicle doing it but I never suggested keeping up with the outliers.


I don't have data, but I-85 south of the ATL airport between College Park and Newnan on the weekends, is crazy fast. Without the camper, I've been flowing with traffic, and been doing 85. Good thing is, it's pretty new interstate, with wide lanes, and good pavement.


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Posted: 09/09/21 06:47am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Rolling road blocks ??
C R England or Swift OTR drivers in the left lane for 17.8 miles on I 80 passing another OTR comes to mind.... damzed frustrating ...just gotta' deal with it.

RV doing the 55-60-65 mph speed limit in the right hand lane on a busy expressway and its keeping you from speeding....just deal with it.

Someone in the passing doing the legal 75 mph passing a 65-70 mph slower vehicle and your wanting to run 5-10 mph over the speed limit....just slow down..don't tail gate and let the driver get around and make a safe lane change.

Too many aggressive drivers on the road who drive way to far over the speed limit....tail gate...unsafe lane changes...poor driving habits... we have to deal with these types.

I'm on the mother road (US-66) daily....its a parade of rvs of all types of people wanting to do the mother road.
RV wrecks....Must be a NC thing as I haven't seen a rv accident in years. Most accidents I see are non rv related.


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