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MikeRP

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My 2020 Longhorn Ram 3500 w Crew Cab and long bed has a payload of 4156 lbs. My Cedar Creek weighs about 14,500 lb loaded which translates to 2900 lbs on the pin and that math works. So I have a 46 gallon aux tank that weighs 350 lbs full and a small capacity tool box.
So loaded ready to go i probably only about 3-400 lbs from max. So if you are buying a new truck at the very minimum get. 3500 payload even on a 350 or 3500 series truck w single rear wheel gets eaten up fast! And it costs so little extra to get a 3500 versus 2500 it’s a no brainer.
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JIMNLIN

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350/3500 srw crew cab long beds 4wd diesel trucks with those big 4xxx lb gvwr based payloads if all placed in the bed over the trucks rear axle may overload the truck 7000 rawr. I've seen some owners of trucks this size say their truck unladin rear axle weight was in the 3400-3500 lbs range leaving 3500-3600 lbs for a max rear axle payload.
Best to weigh the rig on a scale that way actual loads on the trucks axles/tires/suspension are known. A upgraded in those components can then be addressed ...if needed.
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Cummins12V98

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MikeRP wrote: My 2020 Longhorn Ram 3500 w Crew Cab and long bed has a payload of 4156 lbs. My Cedar Creek weighs about 14,500 lb loaded which translates to 2900 lbs on the pin and that math works. So I have a 46 gallon aux tank that weighs 350 lbs full and a small capacity tool box.
So loaded ready to go i probably only about 3-400 lbs from max. So if you are buying a new truck at the very minimum get. 3500 payload even on a 350 or 3500 series truck w single rear wheel gets eaten up fast! And it costs so little extra to get a 3500 versus 2500 it’s a no brainer.
Have you ever weighed your Truck and RV? 2,900 pin on 14,500# is exactly 20%. I am willing to bet your numbers in reality are different.
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I have the Escapees Smart Weigh tickets on my truck and trailer. Fully loaded, we are 500# under the rear axle rating on the truck. All 3 axles on the trailer are under tire and axle ratings. Our pin weight is 21% of the trailer rating. The truck has an auxiliary 40-gallon fuel tank and Trailer Saver TS air ride hitch.
Do I want to need more truck? It would be nice, but the rig does a good job, and we are OK on the ratings.
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TXiceman wrote: I have the Escapees Smart Weigh tickets on my truck and trailer. Fully loaded, we are 500# under the rear axle rating on the truck. All 3 axles on the trailer are under tire and axle ratings. Our pin weight is 21% of the trailer rating. The truck has an auxiliary 40-gallon fuel tank and Trailer Saver TS air ride hitch.
Do I want to need more truck? It would be nice, but the rig does a good job, and we are OK on the ratings.
Ken
That's a high pin weight percentage for a triple axle RV.
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Cummins12V98 wrote: TXiceman wrote: I have the Escapees Smart Weigh tickets on my truck and trailer. Fully loaded, we are 500# under the rear axle rating on the truck. All 3 axles on the trailer are under tire and axle ratings. Our pin weight is 21% of the trailer rating. The truck has an auxiliary 40-gallon fuel tank and Trailer Saver TS air ride hitch.
Do I want to need more truck? It would be nice, but the rig does a good job, and we are OK on the ratings.
Ken
That's a high pin weight percentage for a triple axle RV.
That is what it is.\\Ken
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Cummins12V98 wrote: MikeRP wrote: My 2020 Longhorn Ram 3500 w Crew Cab and long bed has a payload of 4156 lbs. My Cedar Creek weighs about 14,500 lb loaded which translates to 2900 lbs on the pin and that math works. So I have a 46 gallon aux tank that weighs 350 lbs full and a small capacity tool box.
So loaded ready to go i probably only about 3-400 lbs from max. So if you are buying a new truck at the very minimum get. 3500 payload even on a 350 or 3500 series truck w single rear wheel gets eaten up fast! And it costs so little extra to get a 3500 versus 2500 it’s a no brainer.
Have you ever weighed your Truck and RV? 2,900 pin on 14,500# is exactly 20%. I am willing to bet your numbers in reality are different.
I think they would be different but I don’t have the washer dryer in the front nor the Onan generator. So actually I think it’s been running like 19% but I will check it again next spring before I leave. Plus my wife and I have been through a rigorous process of not having stuff on board the truck or the camper that we don’t need and don’t use. We have shed a lot of weight. I had stuff in there from two RV’s ago.
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For us things come in the door but none ever seem to leave.
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noteven

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I have a 160" wheelbase dually with 12K front and 21K rear rating.
Legal axle loading is 12K front and 20K rear = 32K
The truck weighs 15K so that would be...um... carry the nought ... 17000lbs payload.
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