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Trackrig

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Posted: 10/19/21 05:20pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

In Alaska I don't even stop at the scales with my tractor and lowboy trailer carrying my hunting equipment since I'm not a commercial vehicle.

In the States, I've never stopped at a scale house with my DP, Im in t a commercial vehicle and I'm not registered in their State. I don't believe they want all of the RVers in the scale houses clogging things up when they don't know how to get on and off of the scales. If I'm wrong, they can send someone after me.

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Posted: 10/19/21 08:17pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I stop at a weigh station every week coming home from work, but then they're closed but the scale still works.


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The signs are there for at least 20 years but are different in different states.
NV calls for "Commercial and live stock"
CA for "All trucks" but at lot "no pickups" what is about 11,000 lb.
UT has 20,000 lb limit.
Lot of more advanced weight stations have sensors build into freeway with some distance and huge LED road signs will ask you to pull over, or continue.
Last time in WA they pulled me over with my TC, but then let me drive via scales without stopping.





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No state weight station cares how much I weigh.

Why? Because I’m not engaged in commerce.

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More likely they don't care what you weigh because you are not likely to be near the legal limit.
In my state, if a CMV LEO sees you obviously over your registered weight limit, they can and will stop, weigh, and ticket you. (Once, standing in line to pay my overload ticket, the 3 in front of me where pulling boats behind half-ton pickups with 6,000 lbs. plates.
The only other legal thing a RV is likely to be over would be tire rating. To catch that at a scale house, first, he would need to note weight on the axle, then look at sidewall. Then he would need to weigh just that tire. Then, in my state, the fine for overload is $0.02 a pound for the first 500 lbs, and $0.05 for the next 500. (Even on CMVs normally don't write unless 1000 over) Also, if they weighed a RV, noted it was overloaded, then let it go there could be liability issues.


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If I'm wrong, they can send someone after me.

Bill


You do you. If I'm in doubt, I will pull in. If they don't want me, all they will do is tell me to leave. OTOH, if they do want me, and run me down, not only do I have the fine for running scales, the LEOs will be more ambitious to find what I want to hide

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Scoob, I drive through your state often. They’d have no reason to stop me for a weight violation because I’m not a resident of MO, and I’m not engaged in commerce. If either were true, it’d be a different story.

Oddly enough though, MO is the only place I’ve ever been stopped (twice) wondering where my plate was. AR doesn’t tag or register TC’s, and we don’t have front plates, so the plate stays on the rear bumper of the truck. I don’t make the rules here, I just follow them as best I can. And, I don’t blame them for stopping me, the plate is hard to see with the camper on. There was no citation.

As for the three guys paying fines for pulling boats with half tons; it wasn’t because they were “overloaded”, it’s because they were under taxed! As soon as they pay the proper registration fee, they can tow the same boat with the same truck.

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NRALIFR wrote:

Scoob, I drive through your state often. They’d have no reason to stop me for a weight violation because I’m not a resident of MO.


I know of many people who have paid fines in this state that are not residents of this state. And I have paid fines in other states.
(As a matter of fact, in '70s Mo (and Iowa, Ark, Ill, Indiana) would not raise their limits to the federal standard because they wanted to continue collecting fines.

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Oddly enough though, MO is the only place I’ve ever been stopped (twice) wondering where my plate was. AR doesn’t tag or register TC’s, and we don’t have front plates, so the plate stays on the rear bumper of the truck. I don’t make the rules here, I just follow them as best I can. And, I don’t blame them for stopping me, the plate is hard to see with the camper on. There was no citation.


One of my pickups, that often moved a skidsteer, was plated a 18,000. Above 12, only 1 plate, and by law it must be on the front. Hard to train locals.

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As for the three guys paying fines for pulling boats with half tons; it wasn’t because they were “overloaded”, it’s because they were under taxed! As soon as they pay the proper registration fee, they can tow the same boat with the same truck.

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You can call it what you want, but when I load a truck plated at 54,000, get stopped grossing 60,800 the ticket says right on it, 6,800 lbs overweight. The fine starts at $615+ cost. ($100 to lawyer normally get fine cut in half) If I had put 60,000 plates on it very unlikely to be weighed let alone ticketed.
I have had LEOs tell me they will not enforce some traffic laws (Like vehicle spacing on highway) even if they do apply to RVs because tourism is important.

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Posted: 10/20/21 07:05am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

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NRALIFR wrote:

Scoob, I drive through your state often. They’d have no reason to stop me for a weight violation because I’m not a resident of MO.


I know of many people who have paid fines in this state that are not residents of this state. And I have paid fines in other states.
(As a matter of fact, in '70s Mo (and Iowa, Ark, Ill, Indiana) would not raise their limits to the federal standard because they wanted to continue collecting fines.

All engaged in commerce I’d bet.

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Oddly enough though, MO is the only place I’ve ever been stopped (twice) wondering where my plate was. AR doesn’t tag or register TC’s, and we don’t have front plates, so the plate stays on the rear bumper of the truck. I don’t make the rules here, I just follow them as best I can. And, I don’t blame them for stopping me, the plate is hard to see with the camper on. There was no citation.


One of my pickups, that often moved a skidsteer, was plated a 18,000. Above 12, only 1 plate, and by law it must be on the front. Hard to train locals.

Engaged in commerce? And by interstate compact, if AR doesn’t require a front plate, it’s not required anywhere.

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As for the three guys paying fines for pulling boats with half tons; it wasn’t because they were “overloaded”, it’s because they were under taxed! As soon as they pay the proper registration fee, they can tow the same boat with the same truck.

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You can call it what you want, but when I load a truck plated at 54,000, get stopped grossing 60,800 the ticket says right on it, 6,800 lbs overweight. The fine starts at $615+ cost. ($100 to lawyer normally get fine cut in half) If I had put 60,000 plates on it very unlikely to be weighed let alone ticketed.
I have had LEOs tell me they will not enforce some traffic laws (Like vehicle spacing on highway) even if they do apply to RVs because tourism is important.

I think you just made my point. Pay the appropriate tax, you’re golden. LEO’s make discretionary choices like that all the time. As someone said recently, “People will do what they do”.



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Traveling cross country with my horse we have to stop at all agricultural inspection stations, all stations with vehicles hauling livestock signs, and any station that flashes us the red light to pull in. They don't care about the truck, they just want to see our Horses Coggins and Health certificate ( although we do have to drive across the scales. I'm registered for 15,000 and I scale at 13,000 so I don't worry about it.


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Posted: 10/20/21 08:22am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

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I'm over my trucks GVWR but under on the tires.

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NRALIFR wrote:

Scoob, I drive through your state often. They’d have no reason to stop me for a weight violation because I’m not a resident of MO, and I’m not engaged in commerce. If either were true, it’d be a different story.

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What the registration on your truck says?
In most of the states any truck is registered as commercial and so far I only hear about California, who allows changing the registration to RV when you keep the camper on it. If you read the laws, RVs are exempt from lot of commercial laws and you can drive 80,000 lb RV rig without CDL.
DOT scales and inspection sites apply to all qualifying vehicles, regardless original registration.

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